GUILTY GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #5

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  • #441
I agree. When he started driving and we can hear the truck, I clearly heard at least one gear shift by the automatic transmission, and possibly 2 shifts. 2 MPH would have kept the vehicle in first gear.
Exactly. I really hope the jury catches that .
 
  • #442
He says RB has to intentionally be a party to the crime. I think he intentionally said, "Ya'll got him?" and then went, got his keys, and joined the chase.
 
  • #443
I stepped out for a minute...are they waiting on the judge to decide whether to stop for the night?
 
  • #444
I stepped out for a minute...are they waiting on the judge to decide whether to stop for the night?

They're leaving it up the jury. The jury charge won't be given until tomorrow either way. LD has indicated she'll need her full 2 hours for rebuttal.
 
  • #445
@schindy
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Judge is going to ask jurors if they’re up for 2 more hours—the prosecution’s rebuttal argument. The pool reporter said she heard Linda Dunikoski tell someone "I'm exhausted, they're exhausted.


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https://mobile.twitter.com/newsworthy17/status/1462903153465212928
We're back and Walmsley noted the group that has been outside the courtroom, marched around it. B/c of that jury has been moved to another area in courthouse. The jury said they wanted to leave. We're breaking for the day and will be back at 8:30 AM.
 
  • #446
LD will be rebutting the closing tomorrow morning at 8:30am.
 
  • #447
The jurors want to leave for the day- I think it is great that the prosecution gets to start fresh in the morning with rebuttal and Linda has all night to think about how she wants to present her closing.
 
  • #448
Jury has said they want to end for the night now. Judge says he'll start earlier tomorrow, 8.30 vs 9 AM.
 
  • #449
Jury is over it for the day. They've asked to leave for the day. Looks like I get my wish. Rebuttal tomorrow.

BTW States wants it on the record. The coffins Gough referred to earlier as threat to defendants, actually feature the names of George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery and NOT any defendant.
 
  • #450
jury has had enough for today, think this is good for the state, jury will be fresh ready to listen to state rebuttal
 
  • #451
Jury is over it for the day. They've asked to leave for the day. Looks like I get my wish. Rebuttal tomorrow.

BTW States wants it on the record. The coffins Gough referred to earlier as threat to defendants, actually feature the names of George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery and NOT any defendant.

See, it's misinformation like that which got AA murdered in the first place. It's like Gough PROVES who the defendants are each time he opens his mouth.
 
  • #452
Serious question, is this thing going to end? Feels like Gough has been droning on waaaay longer than the McMichaels attorneys
He’s doing it on purpose. Drag it out and bore the jury. Make them loose their train of thought .
 
  • #453
If you watch all 5 videos of AA in that place, what is most striking, imo, is how similar they all are. IIRC, AA takes virtually the same path inside each time. He even has the same slow gait on each plundering excursion.

Then he was probably getting water each time. Make sense. Georgia's hot and humid and Ahmaud is jogging so he stops in for water walking the same path each time to the water sources.

Graddy, who represents property owner Larry English, said in a statement Friday that there were two water faucets on the site — one at the rear of the house and one on the side, the Journal-Constitution reported.

“Although these water sources do not appear within any of the cameras’ frames, the young man moves to and from their locations,” she told the paper after reviewing the new footage.
 
  • #454
He’s doing it on purpose. Drag it out and bore the jury. Make them loose their train of thought .
If so it was a tactical error IMO. I think LD will be even more effective at showing the jury how ridiculous these defenses are when they all start fresh and rested tomorrow.
 
  • #455
I'm glad Ms Linda will come in fresh tomorrow and the jury will also be fresh.

Gough is a horrible person but also a really bad lawyer.

moo
 
  • #456
Wait. He said RB was being guided by "God or some other entity."

Uhm, Satan maybe? Just saying...



ETA, was G for real about RB not being able to see just because the IPhone can't film that clear from that distance? G acts like RB can't see whatever the phone can't see. WTH?
 
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Then he was probably getting water each time. Make sense. Georgia's hot and humid and Ahmaud is jogging so he stops in for water walking the same path each time to the water sources.

Graddy, who represents property owner Larry English, said in a statement Friday that there were two water faucets on the site — one at the rear of the house and one on the side, the Journal-Constitution reported.

“Although these water sources do not appear within any of the cameras’ frames, the young man moves to and from their locations,” she told the paper after reviewing the new footage.

Reality is, AA's mother has said AA went through a pretty rough patch for a time, enough so that she worried a great deal about him. The rough patch had nothing in the world to do with criming. That wasn't happening. What his mother has made public is that a major reason AA jogged & ran is that it cleared his mind, calmed him, made him feel better. What she also has said is that AA was definitely moving past that rough patch, and she believed running had helped make the difference.

AA went into E's whatever literally a handful of times over 5 full months. Big whoopydedo. Why anyone would dismiss the simple reason he went there for a brief breather & some water halfway through a jog would be mysterious-- except it isn't.
 
  • #458
It doesn't matter. As a kid I would bike over to the construction site of what would be my family's new house dozens of times.

IMO, it was the midpoint of a 5 mile run, where he could take a break and check out something cool.

My husband and I bought a new build three years ago. Over the course of several months from the time the foundation was laid we both, at different times, wandered around the worksite after all the workers were gone to check out the progress and get an idea of what the finished product would look like. And we weren't alone. We saw several people who ultimately bought homes too.

I think all kinds of people just have a general interest in construction progress. That's why when you are in huge cities, the hoarding that goes up has viewing windows every 20 feet or so for people to check it out. It seems to be a universal interest.

And while the general population would never think to trespass on an enormous commercial building site with 40 foot long rebar sticking out of the foundation 70 feet below there does seems to be, during early stages of construction of residential homes, an acknowledgement of that curiosity. Once things that are attractive to thieves, like copper, furnaces and HVAC are installed, the worksites are locked.

If English was that concerned with the opportunity for theft he had ample time to ameliorate the situation by posting No Trespassing signs and boarding up the entry to the site.

It's obvious to me that anyone who was aware of the numerous people who entered the site, they were only concerned about one of them. And the thefts that TM mentioned to LE had absolutely nothing to do with English's property, since HE didn't know exactly where the theft of his property occurred.

Only a weapon in an unlocked car was recently stolen in that community. And lo and behold, it was stolen from a self described law and order type who didn't lock his vehicle. Lucky for him it was an unregistered weapon with an unknown serial number. So there was no way to identifying the hapless owner if it had been used criminally or worse killed some local kid who was looking for loose change and ended up hitting the motherlode. IMO, it could be a ghost gun, a phantom created to subliminally suggest AA was responsible.
 
  • #459
GM's defense attorney was so offensive with her victim-blaming. I didn't expect any of the defense attorneys to be any more offensive than I'd thought Gough would be, but she definitely won the award for uncalled-for and completely non-relevant commentary today. Goodness knows I rarely wear socks with my shoes when I am outside exercising (too darned hot in NE FL / SE GA most of the time), I don't get pedicures, and one could often call my toenails long, and dirty, too (the nature of sandal-wearing in the South). That doesn't make me a lesser person, and it didn't make AA one either. How scummy GM's attorney turned out to be!
 
  • #460
I really feel AA's mother. Just terrible. JMO.
 
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