Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #2

[Davieson]

I hope so ,just odd evidence was destroyed on such a serious crime after only 2 and 4 years respectively.

Not so sure about that. I think that the UK Forensic labs destroyed some physical samples from the MM case within a few years, but they kept the results that they had.

 

[RichardKimble]

Not so sure about that. I think that the UK Forensic labs destroyed some physical samples from the MM case within a few years, but they kept the results that they had.

Wrong thread I know but nothing that tied CB to it.

 

[Davieson]

Fingers crossed they did, after the June 2020 appeal HB contacted the Met who asked the PJ to locate her file . The 110 page document was held at Portimao court where items such as scissors used to cut off her clothing ,false nails , a shirt on which blood was found these items were tested for DNA . Swabs were also taken . However in March 2007 these items were destroyed under orders of the judiciary due to being “kept under adverse conditions “ . The remaining evidence was destroyed in 2009. I hope you are right and something useful is still on file .

 

[Davieson]

Fingers crossed they did, after the June 2020 appeal HB contacted the Met who asked the PJ to locate her file . The 110 page document was held at Portimao court where items such as scissors used to cut off her clothing ,false nails , a shirt on which blood was found these items were tested for DNA . Swabs were also taken . However in March 2007 these items were destroyed under orders of the judiciary due to being “kept under adverse conditions “ . The remaining evidence was destroyed in 2009. I hope you are right and something useful is still on file .

Perhaps we might soon learn if any of this DNA belonged to CB, or indeed any other male person

 

[Mex]

Your cite has nothing to do with the Portuguese LE.

Please provide a source to support the below.

CB has a proven police record of predatorial assaults against women whatever their age. All that is required is that they are vulnerable.

The only record CB has of predatorial assault against women is the crime against DM. Which was obtained by one hair at the crime scene.

It is however a fact that CB is an opportunist child molester and therefore a complete .

My only concern with all this stuff is that he may not be the that committed all these crimes, especially the MM crime which I am interested in.

I cannot precis CB's life of crime from his assaults on women to his drug dealing from one corner of Europe to the next and possibly beyond; his general criminality such as fuel theft or in his alleged role as "the climber" according to those who knew him best. I doubt even he could catalogue his life of criminality.

Even as we speak, the German and Portuguese authorities are labouring under the passage of the years when he was criminally active.
They have solved one aggravated rape for which he was responsible. At present they have five more cases of crimes involving women of varying ages to go. And who knows how many after that, only time will tell.

But it is known that very early in his career he absconded to Portugal from Germany to evade the consequences of criminal involvement with a child. Subsequently he was deported back to Germany to face the music.

His career was interrupted when as a result of being investigated for domestic abuse he was discovered to have perpetrated assaults on another young child and another extradition trip to Germany for more jail time.

When his time for that crime was served and later while on the run from Germany to Italy a vicious rape he carried out in 2005 was investigated which resulted in his extradition back to Germany from Italy to trial in 2019 resulting in the rest as they say being history of which it could also well be said,
"It cam wi' a lass, it’ll gang wi' a lass” James V of Scotland

While CB did not confine his long career of criminality only to assaulting women it is probably worth recalling to mind that the five criminal charges he presently faces are all about assaults on women.

It started in Germany and it finished in 2019 in Germany with a conviction for aggravated rape committed in 2005. Now investigators are mopping up whatever else they think he may have been involved in and these five cases may be the first in a batch of many others.


The prime suspect in the disappearance of MM has been charged in Germany with unrelated sexual offences.
CB is currently serving a seven-year sentence for rape which he committed in 2005, also in Portugal, prosecutors added.
The charges in full:

• At some point between 2000 and 2006: The rape of an unidentified woman aged between 70 and 80 in a holiday home in Portugal
• At some point between 2000 and 2006: The rape of a German-speaking girl believed to have been at least 14 years old in his home in Praia da Luz
• 2004: The rape of a 20-year-old Irish woman after entering her apartment in Praia da Rocha
• 2007: The sexual abuse of a 10-year-old German girl on a beach in Salema, Faro
• 2017: The sexual abuse of an 11-year-old Portuguese girl in a playground in Bartolomeu de Messines

Madeleine McCann suspect charged with separate sex offences

The key suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine is charged in Germany over unrelated offences.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[BIZCOCHO]

In the first episode of "Sexta as 9" about Hazel B., Sandra Felgueiras shows a document where the MP of Portimao (prosecutors) reports that they don't have the genetic material of the case and that it was ordered to be destroyed when the case was closed. But in Episode 28 of September 18, 2020 (minute 1:12) Sandra says "the MP of Portimao ordered to destroy the evidence even before the prescription of the case, a crass error that could only be overpassed because the PJ kept the material and already sent it to the German prosecutor".

 

[Niner]

As an aside I see after this Thursday hearing nothing until after Easter then 8 dates in April and 11 in May.

Actually I have....

Trial dates: March 14, April 3, 5, 10, 12, 17, 19, 24, 25, May 2, 3 8, 15, 16, 17, 21, 22, 23, 28, 29, June 4, 5 6, 25, 26 & June 27, 2024.

Have they changed the dates & I missed it? TIA!

 

[Anxala]

Strange thing for a prosecutor to say about one of the prosecution witnesses. Is there dissent in the camp?

It sounds like a sensible and fairly realistic thing to say. Whatever I might think about HCW, he does come across as a pretty pragmatic man.

 

[Anxala]

Actually I have....

Trial dates: March 14, April 3, 5, 10, 12, 17, 19, 24, 25, May 2, 3 8, 15, 16, 17, 21, 22, 23, 28, 29, June 4, 5 6, 25, 26 & June 27, 2024.

Have they changed the dates & I missed it? TIA!

It'll be good to get into April when this trial will feel less disjointed and more like it's finally getting underway. I wonder if it's frustrating for all parties concerned that there's such a time lapse between the trial dates? Or maybe this is just normal for how Germany's court system operates.

I'm sure your dates are correct, Niner.

 

[Davieson]

It sounds like a sensible and fairly realistic thing to say. Whatever I might think about HCW, he does come across as a pretty pragmatic man.

Surely a prosecutor should have confidence in his own witnesses.

 

[mrjitty]

Not so sure about that. I think that the UK Forensic labs destroyed some physical samples from the MM case within a few years, but they kept the results that they had.

As we've heard before, the destruction of the base evidence is different to the actual profile extracted.

So they might have the profile of the attacker on file from evidence recovered at the scene, but no longer have those physical items/samples

 

[Monic]

Wrong thread I know but nothing that tied CB to it.

Personally, I think dogs could have played a role.
CB also had his dogs in Portugal, dog hair hangs on your clothes, etc. and could have been left behind at the crime scenes.
Many dog hairs were found in the apartment..
probably nothing was done with it, because it was assumed that these hairs belonged to the sniffer dogs.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

As we've heard before, the destruction of the base evidence is different to the actual profile extracted.

So they might have the profile of the attacker on file from evidence recovered at the scene, but no longer have those physical items/samples

I don’t think they do for HaB. FF has seen the evidence and is talking about CB being a suspect only once he was outed for MM. And the scar. This is pointless if the have a DNA profile of CB on file.

 

[Mex]

Personally, I think dogs could have played a role.
CB also had his dogs in Portugal, dog hair hangs on your clothes, etc. and could have been left behind at the crime scenes.
Many dog hairs were found in the apartment..
probably nothing was done with it, because it was assumed that these hairs belonged to the sniffer dogs.

... the elderly woman was bound, masked and whipped before being raped.

He said: ‘Then the man sat on the bed and pulled the mask off his face. I thought: That can’t be!’ He said he immediately recognised CB.

The witness told the court he had also seen a second video film, showing a younger woman tied naked to a wooden beam, crying out to be released and saying she had been raped, and that in it CB was sitting on a sofa.
...
The court heard DNA linked a body hair found on the woman’s bed to Brueckner, who was living less than a mile away from the woman.

He denied the attack, claiming the hair could have been transferred to the woman’s bed on the back of her cat after he petted it outside her house, which was on his way to the beach.

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CB carried his rape kit with him complete with camera to film the event. He went prepared to a property which he had obviously spent some time casing well enough to know that his target had a cat.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Personally, I think dogs could have played a role.
CB also had his dogs in Portugal, dog hair hangs on your clothes, etc. and could have been left behind at the crime scenes.
Many dog hairs were found in the apartment..
probably nothing was done with it, because it was assumed that these hairs belonged to the sniffer dogs.

Has anyone ever been convicted based DNA evidence of a pet?

 

[Mex]

Has anyone ever been convicted based DNA evidence of a pet?

Dog DNA testing can be done using various methods, including blood, hair, and poop samples. Let’s explore each method:

1. Blood DNA Tests:
   • Blood tests are the most common way to conduct a DNA test for dogs.
   • Laboratories offering DNA tests typically use blood samples.
   • Blood tests have been around for a long time and are widely available.
   • They provide accurate DNA profiles for dogs1.
2. Hair DNA Tests:
   • Contrary to popular belief, hair DNA tests don’t directly analyze the DNA in the hair itself.
   • Instead, buccal swabs (swabs taken from the inside of the cheek) are used to collect DNA samples.
   • The process for hair DNA tests is similar to blood DNA tests, except for the collection method.
   • Hair samples are still valuable for obtaining DNA profiles, even though they don’t directly analyze the hair shaft123.
3. Poop DNA Tests:
   • Fecal DNA tests are less common and of lower quality compared to blood or hair tests.
   • They are not typically used to determine a dog’s breed or specific health conditions.
   • However, they can provide information related to behavioral problems or general health needs.
   • If you’re looking for accurate breed identification or detailed health insights, blood or hair tests are more reliable options1.

In summary, while hair samples themselves do not contain DNA, buccal swabs collected from the inside of the cheek can yield valuable DNA information.

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The hair recovered from the bed at the scene of the crime of the aggravated rape perpetrated against DM was human and the DNA profile matched that of CB.

 

[Monic]

Has anyone ever been convicted based DNA evidence of a pet?

it is not proof... hair can end up somewhere in different ways, but if, for example, hair from the dog was found in the apartment at the McCanns, that would of course be incriminating.
And yes, in America there are cases where pet hair has played a major role

 

[Monic]

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[Pixie Child]

New Madeleine McCann suspect's house raided by armed police in major update

Armed police stormed a German home searching for a man who could have information on the mysterious disappearance of young Madeleine McCann.

www.express.co.uk

Ralph H from Kennelblick allotment, Braunschweig.

 

[RichardKimble]

New Madeleine McCann suspect's house raided by armed police in major update

Armed police stormed a German home searching for a man who could have information on the mysterious disappearance of young Madeleine McCann.

www.express.co.uk

Ralph H from Kennelblick allotment, Braunschweig.

So the place was stormed, but they weren't allowed to enter because there wasn't a search warrant, makes a lot of sense, not.