IL - Actor Jussie Smollett allegedly attacked in hate crime Jan 2019 #5 Smollett indicted”

[otto]

Thank you, this clarifies that so far its just an accusation at this point. I wonder if the FBI will charge him if they have actual proof he sent it.

The FBI is looking into the matter and FBI have known about the origins of the letter for some time, but if it's just an inquiry the FBI will not lay charges. It more or less looks like there is proof of the origin of the letter, yet no charges have been filed. I guess that means that FBI have better things to do with their time than prosecute incitement of social, racial and gender violence.

 

[MassGuy]

It could be a motive! Gets a hate letter. then thinks... I can go further and because this is really not me, I can get away with it.

That hate letter was right in line with the theme of the attack.

I think the letter and the attack came from the same mind, and the game plan wasn’t built around the letter itself.

When people use magazine clippings to write fake letters, thats almost always an inside job.

For him, it was likely inspired by Hollywood.

That’s the way they do it in the movies, and this whole thing resembled a “C movie” script.

The weird letter, the bizarre “attack,” all seem to fit.

That’s not proof, but it fits.

 

[katydid23]

a link where LE or MSM confirms it was proven he sent the letter to himself.

No one said it was proven

I did list the evidence which would point to his guilt though

What kind of a coincidence would it have to be if someone else sent him a letter,threatening to lynch him and calling him the same vile names he says he was called during the lynching

Who else could have possibly sent that letter other than Jussie and the brothers?

 

[otto]

I agree. And if he had come forward—Mea Culpa made—-and apologized and explained the pressure and stress of being a young black gay man in the public eye and how he had s melt down—/I would have sympathized fully

Young?
Isn't he in his thirties?
He's a 36 year old.
He knows better. He's a con man. Why would anyone assume that a man who is nearly 40 years old didn't know better? Furthermore, he was not in the public eye. He was a 3rd rate Netflix actor that no one had heard of, just like the two men he set up for this crime - nobodies who do nothing but suck air.

 

[katydid23]

he could have been inspired by an actual letter.

If so, why did the brothers have the magazines with the cut out letters and why did the brothers say Jussie sent it?

Wouldn’t they say someone else sent it and it gave them the idea for the hoax?

 

[katydid23]

Young?
Isn't he in his thirties?
He's a 36 year old.
He knows better. He's a con man. Why would anyone assume that a man who is nearly 40 years old didn't know better? Furthermore, he was not in the public eye. He was a 3rd rate Netflix actor that no one had heard of, just like the two men he set up for this crime - nobodies who do nothing but suck air.

True. I guess I just see 36 as being young. Compared to me anyway. Lol

 

[otto]

Does anyone know what happens to forfeited bond in Cooks County, does it go to the court or the City or the State? Can it be directed towards the police budget specifically?

I'm guessing that it goes directly into the police budget. Fortunately, police have spoken up and clarified that the $10,000 donation from Smollett does not cover the expense of investigating his false claims.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Also didn’t consult with the police chief, mayor, or the Feds.

That’s what typically happens when you aren’t proud of what you are about to do.

Also, I imagine that in most cities everybody in government would know when a new class of police officers is sworn in, no? Or that this would be open knowledge to anyone who called up the press secretary and said "hey, what is the mayor's schedule today?"

IMO, the prosecutors ran this through when they darn well knew that Mayor Emanuel and Supt. Johnson would be busy and couldn't react - what are they going to do, race off the stage in the middle of the ceremony and over to the court?

 

[Backstroke10]

Didn’t he say he wouldn’t be his mother‘s son if he did this? There you go: he’s not his mother’s son, he was impersonating his brother AGAIN!

I love this! Thanks for the good laugh!

 

[otto]

Pure coincidence that his ridiculous “attack” was preceded with an equally absurd letter.

That’s one hell of a fantasyland he lives in.

That, or he thinks we’re all idiots.

He's following the Rachel Dolezal game plan. The only thing he didn't do was the burn an effigy in his front yard. He got the notoriety he coveted without burning Chicago. Now he needs to be shut down and silenced.

 

[MassGuy]

Also, I imagine that in most cities everybody in government would know when a new class of police officers is sworn in, no? Or that this would be open knowledge to anyone who called up the press secretary and said "hey, what is the mayor's schedule today?"

IMO, the prosecutors ran this through when they darn well knew that Mayor Emanuel and Supt. Johnson would be busy and couldn't react - what are they going to do, race off the stage in the middle of the ceremony and over to the court?

That’s a damn good point.

Ha! That makes this even worse.

As annoyed as I am by that move, part of me respects it. That’s something Paul Giamatti’s character would do in “Billions.”

This is real life though, and obviously has real consequences.

 

[otto]

I think Smolett's career as a relatively mainstream actor is over. Disney, who owns the Fox Movies branch won't want to risk any projects with him, he'll be uninsurable, and the promise of his career will be gone.

Harvey Levin has it right on that TMZ video: If he had plead to one of the lesser felonies, got 3 years probation, 200 hours community service, paid restitution, and be remorseful, then at the end of 3 years the plea deal would be expunged from his records and he could resurrect himself.

However, whatever his attorney's and the State Attorney's shenanigans did with this dropping of charges, with prejudice, and sealing the record and the hijinks with Jesse Jackson's library have cast a pall of malfeasance and external manipulation that will be the legacy now. Not to mention the open hostility between the mayor and police department and the Office of the State Attorney.

Smolett is the loser, but not in any sympathetic way.

He's toast. Move to NYC. Find some unknown directors willing to take a chance on him. Try to stay below the media radar.

But never ever again to have the endorsement of a major media player like the Disney Media. And because of that always be poison to the major projects that he likely thought he deserved.

Just like that woman who was a thief - Winona Ryder. Never again.

 

[otto]

Attorney for Osundairo brothers shocked by Smollett dropped charges

The brothers’ attorney Gloria Schmidt said her clients were telling the truth and were prepared to do so in court.

Schmidt said she was baffled by the decision to drop charges against Smollett.

“I was shocked. I couldn’t believe it,” Schmidt said. “For the State’s Attorney’s office to drop it completely, and not consult with the victim, and with the complaining witnesses, and the key witnesses in this case, I think is baffling.”

Who is the victim according to her statement? The general public?

 

[otto]

Hmm, I guess that the brothers better keep a low profile here. They did "beat" up JS.

According to Smollett, they are violent offenders who randomly attack gay and black men on the streets of Chicago. If we are to believe their buddy Smollett, they should be arrested and put away.

 

[otto]

True. I guess I just see 36 as being young. Compared to me anyway. Lol

Understandable, but 36 year olds with an impersonation conviction history and who commit a hate crime impersonation, should not be viewed as young 21 year olds.

Smollett is an old man, nearly 40, with a criminal history and a bad reputation.

 

[angelainwi]

Maybe to you it is ‘less hurtful’.

But if you were a white man in Chicago wearing a MAGA hat then it would be hurtful and dangerous for you.

Wearing a MAGA hat in Chicago was already dangerous before this case

 

[maggieg]

"Unusual handling Some other differences between Smollett's case resolution and the route taken by ordinary people are apparent. Smollett's case was concluded in an "emergency hearing" rather than at his next scheduled court date on April 17th.

According to Cook County Circuit Court guidelines, emergency motions require “sudden or unforeseen circumstances” that “rise to the [level of] emergency.” Attorneys seeking an emergency hearing are required to explain “the reason(s) the matter should take precedence.”

Particularly odd was the decision to immediately seal Smollett's court record. Even when individuals are acquitted of crimes, the court record remains accessible to the public until the individual seeks expungement—a 60- to 120-day process that entities such as the Chicago Police Department have an opportunity to contest.

But Smollett's judge yesterday immediately sealed the case, and the case was removed from clerk electronic records within four hours, barring anyone from reviewing the matter. Foxx today said the sealing was an error that would be undone. As of midday on Wednesday, Smollett's case had not returned to the clerk's system."
CWB Chicago: Kim Foxx says Smollett's sweetheart deal is "available to all defendants." Court records tell a different tale.

Interesting that the Police usually have an opportunity to contest expungement.

That article shows there are 2 other false report cases currently ongoing, I wonder will they be offered a Smollet deal in an attempt to legitimize this whole thing

 

[PrairieWind]

Who is the victim according to her statement? The general public?

I think she is implying the police department. This case had tons of evidence and was ready for trial. Everyone was on board. Except........

 

[otto]

"Unusual handling Some other differences between Smollett's case resolution and the route taken by ordinary people are apparent. Smollett's case was concluded in an "emergency hearing" rather than at his next scheduled court date on April 17th.

According to Cook County Circuit Court guidelines, emergency motions require “sudden or unforeseen circumstances” that “rise to the [level of] emergency.” Attorneys seeking an emergency hearing are required to explain “the reason(s) the matter should take precedence.”

Particularly odd was the decision to immediately seal Smollett's court record. Even when individuals are acquitted of crimes, the court record remains accessible to the public until the individual seeks expungement—a 60- to 120-day process that entities such as the Chicago Police Department have an opportunity to contest.

But Smollett's judge yesterday immediately sealed the case, and the case was removed from clerk electronic records within four hours, barring anyone from reviewing the matter. Foxx today said the sealing was an error that would be undone. As of midday on Wednesday, Smollett's case had not returned to the clerk's system."
CWB Chicago: Kim Foxx says Smollett's sweetheart deal is "available to all defendants." Court records tell a different tale.

Interesting that the Police usually have an opportunity to contest expungement.

That article shows there are 2 other false report cases currently ongoing, I wonder will they be offered a Smollet deal in an attempt to legitimize this whole thing

It all sounds very serious. Was Smollett again pretending that he was a victim of bi-racial ancestry and gender facts, causing the court to once again fall for the old man crying wolf?

That seems like the only reason for an emergency hearing - that Smollett was again pretending to be the victim.

 

[otto]

I think she is implying the police department. This case had tons of evidence and was ready for trial. Everyone was on board. Except........

Except who - who is this Foxx person? Isn't she the woman who threw the case, and wasn't she influenced by politicians? She should be replaced with someone who knows law, because the precedent she set for buying your way out of criminal charges needs to be reversed quickly.