AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #10,001
  • #10,002
Absolutely. It’s clear they were told she’s dead, and now she’s saying they’ll pay for the body.
I get this vibe too but why would a kidnapper who hasn't received payment reveal she's dead? That's their only leverage. If they were that desperate to get paid they would've provided proof of life. Could this be some sign of remorse by the author of the ransom?
 
  • #10,003
That video is a gut punch. Wow.
 
  • #10,004
  • #10,005
Transcript of new video here:

"We received your message and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us and we will pay."
 
  • #10,006
Absolutely. It’s clear they were told she’s dead, and now she’s saying they’ll pay for the body.
I think so too.

If I had the money, I would pay for the return of my mom too.

HEARTBREAKING, absolutely HEARTBREAKING
 
  • #10,007
"We received your message, and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. She is very valuable to us, and we will pay."

What I heard Savannah say on this most recent message.
I just listened again and she says

THIS is very valuable to us.
 
  • #10,008
Good point about them possibly having cloud. I'm not an expert on technical issues but surely someone can answer these questions...

If they had ring cameras it would definitely prove the uber account, and how and when she went home.

If AC and SIL had their own security system it would back their story. It could tell the police when it was started and stopped at any time. Cameras would show anyone leaving that house that night Unless turned off, am I right?

Sorry, I'm not a good at writing or technology.

Jmo
Hmmmmm.
 
  • #10,009
I saw this video as a request to contact them, but they really don't know anything.
 
  • #10,010
In regards to SGs new instagram post. First impression is that NG is dead (idk why a kidnapper would admit that since it's their only leverage).

Very confused what return our mother so she can celebrate with us means. (Is this in regards to her recent birthday)

They end it by saying "we will pay" (pay for the return of her body? or NG alive)

JMO
Celebration of Life? After death of course, but still a Celebration of Llife.
 
  • #10,011
"This" is very valuable to us

Why not SHE is very valuable to us?

The addition of "with" when saying celebrate with is interesting

And why didn't they pay before?
 
  • #10,012
  • #10,013
As the daughter said, there is AI and many ways to create an image. The family, too, needs some solid guarantees. Right?
Maybe it is some scammer sitting far away and having no contact with their mother?
Could the recent note have led them to a Polaroid, something simple - for proof of life? I am skeptical about payment if deceased.
 
  • #10,014
You may not want to read this theory

it is possible that the kidnappers cut off a finger tip or some other part (like piece of ear) at the time of kidnapping. The second note said where to find where they left it at time of kidnapping. The threat is to send their mother back in pieces.

Eta: maybe worse, sending back one piece at a time until it's paid
 
Last edited:
  • #10,015
I have the opposite opinion.

IMO, can they really speak “man to man” when they’re not on an equal footing? At the moment all the power is in the hands of whomever took Nancy.

What you see as lukewarm, I see as tightly controlled rage, knowing his mother’s life is up to the kidnapper right now.

He’s career military but he’s a jet fighter pilot, not National Guard. I presume he is accustomed to being in control in dangerous situations, and to keep emotion in check so he can do his highly skilled job.

But right now, he is forced to “play nice” in order to have a mother again.

JMO

I think they hope for the best, but realistically, the chance is slim.

I don't know if anyone can understand how people should feel or act given the circumstances.

Grief, anger, rage? Helplessness? Who knows? You wish that no one ever gets into it.
 
  • #10,016
The FBI has reportedly placed digital billboards across multiple states near Arizona — including Texas, New Mexico, and California — asking the public for help in locating Nancy Guthrie

I can’t put the link, but I have read it has happened.

One billboard spotted in Albuquerque, New Mexico, features Guthrie’s photo along with her age, height, weight, and an FBI contact number, according to local news station KOAT-TV.
 
  • #10,017
I took “celebrate with her” to be a celebration of life and to bring her home.
All around awful and eery.
MOO.

Watched without the sound. I think she's passed, they now know it, the celebration will be for her life and they want her body back to lay her to rest because it means the world to them.

That's my take on it. They are devastated and if they thought there is a chance of her being alive they would reflect that.

I am so sad and Nancy never deserved this!!
And I note SG is wearing black. :( Maybe a necklace from NG.
 
  • #10,018
This is the craziest case I have followed in forever. I wake up throughout the night and scroll this thread praying for an update.

I am being hopeful yhat this latest message is just a response to the perp not sending proof of life, and them remaining optimistic that shes alive. I pray they weren't told shes dead. Maybe they got another, more urgent timeline?

I also why the sheriff said no more pressers until Thursday.

So many odd things going on, its driving me crazy!
 
  • #10,019
  • #10,020
I personally don't think this person(s) even have her tbh.
 

Guardians Monthly Goal

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
462
Guests online
3,061
Total visitors
3,523

Forum statistics

Threads
640,300
Messages
18,757,300
Members
244,635
Latest member
TLv9vMJLlkPFrGFC
Back
Top