AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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The blood is a big sign she made it home.
But then let's throw the statistics out the window for a second because obviously the blood was planted! 🙄 I'd love to know how many times a perpetrator has actually done that before.
 
  • #21,062
Nancy's church had two services in person and viewable online. One at 9:00 a.m. and one at 10:45 a.m.

Has it been verified which service she would normally watch with her friend?
 
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No corroboration that she ever made it home from AG and SIL home that night. Her digital devices did but that's not proof enough. So you always concentrate on the last people with a victim.
I see. Makes sense.

I'm looking at it differently - that there's no proof she didn't make it home. I just don't see a motivation for the family - surely not financial when it'd be much easier to just wait it out for their inheritance. And if it were an argument that escalated, I can't see they could have hid the evidence to where the FBI at full bore couldn't have sussed it out by now. Certainly can't see them trying to stage a kidnapping/ransom - how you going to explain your cash infusion.
 
  • #21,064
But then let's throw the statistics out the window for a second because obviously the blood was planted! 🙄 I'd love to know how many times a perpetrator has actually done that before.
Right! And someone risks being caught by staging a forced entrance to a house where they look directly into the camera. Come on now people.
 
  • #21,065
Ugh. Checking back now and seeing person was released from detainment. Called that hours ago. As I said, it used to be hearing about fed detainment meant they likely nabbed the suspect, but not lately. Hoping tips from video yield something today.
 
  • #21,066
It's pretty easy for them to know what time the 911 call happened. They had that accurately from the start. It was the other time that was reported incorrectly---the time they arrived at Nancy's house.

And that made them look sketchy. And it seemed sketchy it took so long to call 911 but that was inaccurate info. And seemed sketchy that first it was reported that NG's daughter gave her a ride home but was later changed to say her SIL was the last to see her---again, it looked sketchy. But now it's back to daughter driving her home?

Is it really back to the daughter driving her home? Sheesh 🙄

Sheriff Nanos stated to New York Times that it was the SIL.

Maybe the SIL was the one driving and the daughter also rode along.

It is so frustrating not knowing but I understand LE has to protect certain aspects of the investigation.
 
  • #21,067
No corroboration that she ever made it home from AG and SIL home that night. Her digital devices did but that's not proof enough. So you always concentrate on the last people with a victim.
Nancy's pacemaker made it home too. We can safely assume it was still inside of her and she was alive.
 
  • #21,068
Why do you think it's the family?
The social workers card left in the door. Its concerning. Did she call, did someone else call for elder abuse? Was N being financially or physically abused by someone in her family or a caregiver?
 
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dbm
 
  • #21,070
Nancy's pacemaker made it home too. We can safely assume it was still inside of her and she was alive.
No Nancy's pacemaker was connected to her digital devices which were later found at home, thinking her pacemaker was at home while connected to them is a fallacy that hasn't been confirmed
 
  • #21,071
Ah. I remember reading that somewhere.

Let’s seperate and disregard the ransom demand for the time being, which has really been a major distraction.

Bizarre to me that it would take that long to report her missing, especially with the blood.

You get the word that your mum hasn’t arrived at church. You check her house and see she is missing and some obvious signs that something is very wrong.

It would not take an hour to contact the authorities unless you are covering something up or preparing for the performance of your life.

The random demand may be an unrelated opportunist, or a distraction.

This may be a very simple case, but so much noise…
Very likely they went thru garage and didn’t use front door. An hour is not that long. Last thing I’d be thinking is that my mom was kidnapped and is about to be the biggest crime story in the country. Search house quickly, go outside and look around backyard, go back inside and search more slowly, start calling friends and family. And THEN call police.
 
  • #21,072
No Nancy's pacemaker was connected to her digital devices which were later found at home, thinking her pacemaker was at home while connected to them is a fallacy that hasn't been confirmed
It is not fallacy. The pacemaker was connected to her devices by the bluetooth which has limited range. For such device the range would be most probably the standard 10 meters/33 feet (might be less in the buildings) so Nancy and her pacemaker had to be near her devices, in order for them to stay connected. So her devices could not make it home without her.
 
  • #21,073
No corroboration that she ever made it home from AG and SIL home that night. Her digital devices did but that's not proof enough. So you always concentrate on the last people with a victim.
I think I can say with total confidence, that the last person/s to see Nancy were the ones on her doorstep in the early hours of Sunday morning. We even have photographic evidence to support that.
 
  • #21,074
Thats because they have no corroborated information about that
Good morning all,
LE knows the answer to this, but can’t release it at this time. After watching the chilling video yesterday, I hate to think about what N went through, it’s very sad.
 
  • #21,075
NG had birthday days prior to 1/31/26. So are you saying something like this is appropriate, "Hi Mom, we want to honor your birthday but we can't drive 10 mins to pick you up. Call Uber and get your own ride to our house 4 miles away. But don't worry, we will give you 2 mins to get from car to inside your garage around 9:48pm. Happy Birthday Mom." Despicable behavior imo if NG had to get her own transportation to a family neighborhood like dinner.
In answer to your quoting my post and asking me directly- here’s my personal
opinion:
Yes, I think Nancy regularly takes Uber. It was noted previously that she sometimes (maybe always) requests female drivers- and did request a female driver that night.
So she is well- versed on Uber riding and a very smart cookie.
She is with-it and independent and most assuredly confident and comfortable in calling herself an uber. Kudos to her.
As far as the return - her loving SIL allowed her the independence she wanted and could well have gotten out of the car to walk her to the door but she likely told him to stay there, thanked him and told him she loved him, grabbed her cane, walked to her inside door, turned on inside lights and waved goodbye before pushing the button to close the garage door.
Either he had a garage door opener in his car or he had the code and got out and punched it into the keypad or she told him to stay there and she did it herself.
He could very well have helped her all the way into her house, maybe she had a birthday gift in hand as well as her purse and cane.
Some of us strongly believe that the SIL and all family members of Nancy are completely innocent and that they adore Nancy and are devastated by her disappearance.
 
  • #21,076
Went to bed when the guy was detained. Woke up incredibly embarrassed for the police that they made such a show of this detention.

The guy in the video may have seemed like a bumbling amateur, but you have to admit he’s flummoxed the police. Genuinely so surprised by the lack of leads here. Losing some hope today.
 
  • #21,077
DBM
 
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Sorry if this has already been brought up.

Has anyway been able to find a similar jacket or backpack as in the video? Could tell something about the person depending on brand etc.
 
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No corroboration that she ever made it home from AG and SIL home that night. Her digital devices did but that's not proof enough. So you always concentrate on the last people with a victim.
I’m going to guess that it is corroborated. If her door cam recorded the suspect walking up to the door, I suspect that it recorded a car in the driveway and Nancy exiting. We’re just not going to see that.

MOO
 

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