• #21,061
Nancy's pacemaker made it home too. We can safely assume it was still inside of her and she was alive.
No Nancy's pacemaker was connected to her digital devices which were later found at home, thinking her pacemaker was at home while connected to them is a fallacy that hasn't been confirmed
 
  • #21,062
Ah. I remember reading that somewhere.

Let’s seperate and disregard the ransom demand for the time being, which has really been a major distraction.

Bizarre to me that it would take that long to report her missing, especially with the blood.

You get the word that your mum hasn’t arrived at church. You check her house and see she is missing and some obvious signs that something is very wrong.

It would not take an hour to contact the authorities unless you are covering something up or preparing for the performance of your life.

The random demand may be an unrelated opportunist, or a distraction.

This may be a very simple case, but so much noise…
Very likely they went thru garage and didn’t use front door. An hour is not that long. Last thing I’d be thinking is that my mom was kidnapped and is about to be the biggest crime story in the country. Search house quickly, go outside and look around backyard, go back inside and search more slowly, start calling friends and family. And THEN call police.
 
  • #21,063
No Nancy's pacemaker was connected to her digital devices which were later found at home, thinking her pacemaker was at home while connected to them is a fallacy that hasn't been confirmed
It is not fallacy. The pacemaker was connected to her devices by the bluetooth which has limited range. For such device the range would be most probably the standard 10 meters/33 feet (might be less in the buildings) so Nancy and her pacemaker had to be near her devices, in order for them to stay connected. So her devices could not make it home without her.
 
  • #21,064
No corroboration that she ever made it home from AG and SIL home that night. Her digital devices did but that's not proof enough. So you always concentrate on the last people with a victim.
I think I can say with total confidence, that the last person/s to see Nancy were the ones on her doorstep in the early hours of Sunday morning. We even have photographic evidence to support that.
 
  • #21,065
Thats because they have no corroborated information about that
Good morning all,
LE knows the answer to this, but can’t release it at this time. After watching the chilling video yesterday, I hate to think about what N went through, it’s very sad.
 
  • #21,066
NG had birthday days prior to 1/31/26. So are you saying something like this is appropriate, "Hi Mom, we want to honor your birthday but we can't drive 10 mins to pick you up. Call Uber and get your own ride to our house 4 miles away. But don't worry, we will give you 2 mins to get from car to inside your garage around 9:48pm. Happy Birthday Mom." Despicable behavior imo if NG had to get her own transportation to a family neighborhood like dinner.
In answer to your quoting my post and asking me directly- here’s my personal
opinion:
Yes, I think Nancy regularly takes Uber. It was noted previously that she sometimes (maybe always) requests female drivers- and did request a female driver that night.
So she is well- versed on Uber riding and a very smart cookie.
She is with-it and independent and most assuredly confident and comfortable in calling herself an uber. Kudos to her.
As far as the return - her loving SIL allowed her the independence she wanted and could well have gotten out of the car to walk her to the door but she likely told him to stay there, thanked him and told him she loved him, grabbed her cane, walked to her inside door, turned on inside lights and waved goodbye before pushing the button to close the garage door.
Either he had a garage door opener in his car or he had the code and got out and punched it into the keypad or she told him to stay there and she did it herself.
He could very well have helped her all the way into her house, maybe she had a birthday gift in hand as well as her purse and cane.
Some of us strongly believe that the SIL and all family members of Nancy are completely innocent and that they adore Nancy and are devastated by her disappearance.
 
  • #21,067
Went to bed when the guy was detained. Woke up incredibly embarrassed for the police that they made such a show of this detention.

The guy in the video may have seemed like a bumbling amateur, but you have to admit he’s flummoxed the police. Genuinely so surprised by the lack of leads here. Losing some hope today.
 
  • #21,068
DBM
 
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Sorry if this has already been brought up.

Has anyway been able to find a similar jacket or backpack as in the video? Could tell something about the person depending on brand etc.
 
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No corroboration that she ever made it home from AG and SIL home that night. Her digital devices did but that's not proof enough. So you always concentrate on the last people with a victim.
I’m going to guess that it is corroborated. If her door cam recorded the suspect walking up to the door, I suspect that it recorded a car in the driveway and Nancy exiting. We’re just not going to see that.

MOO
 
  • #21,072
This is utterly bizarre. Pretty much every component of this case to date. Just bonkers.

JMO.

In this post, it says an investigator from Adult Protective Services left a card on the door of Nancy’s house.


This is the video from the new station with the card on the window.


The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?
That’s very peculiar
 
  • #21,073
In answer to your quoting my post and asking me directly- here’s my personal
opinion:
Yes, I think Nancy regularly takes Uber. It was noted previously that she sometimes (maybe always) requests female drivers- and did request a female driver that night.
Sorry, can I ask for a source on that? Just wondering, since I don't recall this about female drivers being brought up before and I did a quick google but nothing came up.
 
  • #21,074
Have we agreed that the lantana stems were being used by the perp to try to remove the Nest camera and not obscure anything?

Perhaps it's just me, but it appears that the stems of the plant are too thin to be any use as a tool. I think he was trying to obscure.

video for reference
 
  • #21,075
Keep seeing the misinformation that the family waited one hour to call 911.

This is not true.

They called 911 almost as soon as they arrived

[The source of this misinformation was the sheriff in the first press conference but it has now been debunked]

Source: ABC7 news official police timeline (Feb 6)


New York Times (10 Feb) A Timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s Disappearance

"When Ms. Guthrie did not arrive at a friend’s house to watch a live-streamed church service on Sunday, the friend notified Ms Guthrie’s family. Family members went to her house just before noon to check on her, discovered she was missing and called 911."
 
  • #21,076
In this post, it says an investigator from Adult Protective Services left a card on the door of Nancy’s house.


This is the video from the new station with the card on the window.


Yes we discussed this card very early on in this thread. At the time it was my belief that this card appeared *after* the crime, because JMO MOO i don't think it was there in the earliest photos of Nancy's house in the very early days of the investigation. But perhaps I was wrong, I am going to see if there is a way to find out by going back in time over the images. Either way, the leaving of the card was very strange, but if it was indeed before then that is baffling.
 
  • #21,077
It is not fallacy. The pacemaker was connected to her devices by the bluetooth which has limited range. For such device the range would be most probably the standard 10 meters/33 feet (might be less in the buildings) so Nancy and her pacemaker had to be near her devices, in order for them to stay connected. So her devices could not make it home without her.
It’s very unlikely, but Nancy and the phone could have been elsewhere, the phone then being taken from her at 2.28am and planted back at the house. It’s even more unlikely given we know the intruder was captured on the camera prior to the 2.28am time stamp, Much more likely she was in the home imo.
 
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No Nancy's pacemaker was connected to her digital devices which were later found at home, thinking her pacemaker was at home while connected to them is a fallacy that hasn't been confirmed
Her phone was at home and connected to her pacemaker.
 
  • #21,080
Perhaps it's just me, but it appears that the stems of the plant are too thin to be any use as a tool. I think he was trying to obscure.

video for reference
Yes, I feel that is correct now. One stem would be a tool. Not multiple.
 
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