AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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This is utterly bizarre. Pretty much every component of this case to date. Just bonkers.

JMO.

In this post, it says an investigator from Adult Protective Services left a card on the door of Nancy’s house.


This is the video from the new station with the card on the window.


The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?
That’s very peculiar
 
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In answer to your quoting my post and asking me directly- here’s my personal
opinion:
Yes, I think Nancy regularly takes Uber. It was noted previously that she sometimes (maybe always) requests female drivers- and did request a female driver that night.
Sorry, can I ask for a source on that? Just wondering, since I don't recall this about female drivers being brought up before and I did a quick google but nothing came up.
 
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Have we agreed that the lantana stems were being used by the perp to try to remove the Nest camera and not obscure anything?

Perhaps it's just me, but it appears that the stems of the plant are too thin to be any use as a tool. I think he was trying to obscure.

video for reference
 
  • #21,084
Keep seeing the misinformation that the family waited one hour to call 911.

This is not true.

They called 911 almost as soon as they arrived

[The source of this misinformation was the sheriff in the first press conference but it has now been debunked]

Source: ABC7 news official police timeline (Feb 6)


New York Times (10 Feb) A Timeline of Nancy Guthrie’s Disappearance

"When Ms. Guthrie did not arrive at a friend’s house to watch a live-streamed church service on Sunday, the friend notified Ms Guthrie’s family. Family members went to her house just before noon to check on her, discovered she was missing and called 911."
 
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In this post, it says an investigator from Adult Protective Services left a card on the door of Nancy’s house.


This is the video from the new station with the card on the window.


Yes we discussed this card very early on in this thread. At the time it was my belief that this card appeared *after* the crime, because JMO MOO i don't think it was there in the earliest photos of Nancy's house in the very early days of the investigation. But perhaps I was wrong, I am going to see if there is a way to find out by going back in time over the images. Either way, the leaving of the card was very strange, but if it was indeed before then that is baffling.
 
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It is not fallacy. The pacemaker was connected to her devices by the bluetooth which has limited range. For such device the range would be most probably the standard 10 meters/33 feet (might be less in the buildings) so Nancy and her pacemaker had to be near her devices, in order for them to stay connected. So her devices could not make it home without her.
It’s very unlikely, but Nancy and the phone could have been elsewhere, the phone then being taken from her at 2.28am and planted back at the house. It’s even more unlikely given we know the intruder was captured on the camera prior to the 2.28am time stamp, Much more likely she was in the home imo.
 
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No Nancy's pacemaker was connected to her digital devices which were later found at home, thinking her pacemaker was at home while connected to them is a fallacy that hasn't been confirmed
Her phone was at home and connected to her pacemaker.
 
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Perhaps it's just me, but it appears that the stems of the plant are too thin to be any use as a tool. I think he was trying to obscure.

video for reference
Yes, I feel that is correct now. One stem would be a tool. Not multiple.
 
  • #21,090
Went to bed when the guy was detained. Woke up incredibly embarrassed for the police that they made such a show of this detention.

The guy in the video may have seemed like a bumbling amateur, but you have to admit he’s flummoxed the police. Genuinely so surprised by the lack of leads here. Losing some hope today.
Very disheartening and at this point embarrassing for US.
 
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We know he was released so that might be all we need to know.
Thank you, I was digging through posts trying to find what happened with that.
 
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i don't think BE should be interviewing her either. bad form. he could end up cleared by LE by the time they're done questioning him, but now people will be probing into him and his family. i'm not comfortable with that until LE formally names him as a POI.
Also there is an elderly woman's life at stake. ETA The media should show good judgment.
 
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If she felt that way to get to Tucson family house 4 miles from home, I wish she felt that way returning home cause maybe she would still be alive.
She may not have left from home. NG was active. She could’ve been at a friends, book club, a girl gaggle, having her hair done, any number of things.

If she had spend the night at her daughters this may not have happen.
Moo…
 
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It is not fallacy. The pacemaker was connected to her devices by the bluetooth which has limited range. For such device the range would be most probably the standard 10 meters/33 feet (might be less in the buildings) so Nancy and her pacemaker had to be near her devices, in order for them to stay connected. So her devices could not make it home without her.

I get the point the other poster was making. Nancy and her watch and phone were in sync until they departed sometime before 2:28 a.m.

Where she was at when they departed from her hasn't been confirmed. I am sure they know based on the data.

I lean toward Nancy being at her own home with her devices when they departed.
 
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i don't think BE should be interviewing her either. bad form. he could end up cleared by LE by the time they're done questioning him, but now people will be probing into him and his family. i'm not comfortable with that until LE formally names him as a POI.
I agree, and I think they should scrub the detained person's and his family's names from their social media and website.

I didn't know alot about BE before Nancy's disappearance, and I've been so impressed with his stamina and coverage. But this has tarnished him IMO. I think he crossed the line and he took it way too far, almost like a tabloid reporter. I don't know if he's so fatigued he didn't think through what he was doing, but I'm less inclined to follow him now. He should have stayed out of this one
 
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With so many available resources supporting this nationwide, the FBI director himself, the President even commenting on the case and they still cant get her back, what chance do you think you have it it happens to your family?
 
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Also there is an elderly woman's life at stake.
Exactly right. I think they should question/detain anyone they think can get them closer to finding Nancy.
 
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I wonder if the video extraction of the Nest camera has or will go back further than the date of what we were shown with the perp i.e. to capture drivers who delivered other prior but recent deliveries. Since the public has been asked to help I have an inkling more delivery drivers will be "detained" in this investigative process but not necessarily leaning towards that being the Prime area of focus.
 
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Way to go, POI’s mother-in-law. Gave out all his business and it wasn’t even him!

This is deeply embarrassing for the police. They are clearly stumped by this bumbling, flower-picking “evil genius.”
 

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