Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Chili Fries]

A few points of note (without me injecting my conclusions)

Crypto ransoms take a high degree of skill to pull off. POI would need to understand how to cold store BTC. Not on a hot wallet like Ledger. True cold storage takes sophistication and years of planning (storing keys and sleepy wallets with NO prior transactions). After the ransom is paid, POI would then need to use a crypto mixer like Monero or similar to breakdown the BTC, send it to hundreds of wallets, wash the hashes in thousands of transactions and then recollect the BTC once its been washed. After all that, they’d need a laundering scheme to convert the cleaned crypto into fiat. This person(s) would NOT send notes to the media. They understand anonymity and would avoid hot contact (I.e internet contact)

If you’re confused, you’re not the culprit. That gives a sense for the kind of person or persons skilled enough to pull off a crypto ransom. And that says nothing of the skill to kidnap someone. Those are two very different skill sets that rarely occur in one person.

Yes, someone would have to be very disciplined these days to get away with a crypto ransom.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Like this?

Are you the first to identify the mask under the mask?

 

[detectivewannab]

Like this?

That was my thought when I first seen it.

 

[ConstantLurker]

Regular lurker, rare poster, but there are numerous issues with this case that have frustrated me enough to ask or post something. I’m gonna stick to the pics and video of the masked man on NG’s Nest because it blew my mind in ways I wouldn’t think I would ordinarily do.

First off, and I don’t intend to make light but my own reaction was out of character, my initial response was “lazy millennial”! No sense of purpose! The way he mopes around, slow moving to the point I want to dub over “duh, which way did he go?” like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. The Lantana on the camera? Regardless of his motivation for grabbing them it is definitely a lack of preparedness. Whether that’s for concealment, to provide some grip to get purchase on it to yank or turn, or as some kind of gesture to get in, hide, or send some message to one or all family members. I wouldn’t carry my gun that doesn’t fit the holster there. I certainly would remove reflective gear from my clothing. I would be moving much more quickly and assertively. However, my subsequent viewing left me seeing a person more my own age (50’s) maybe a little stiff, and sure enough they weren’t getting caught to not move any faster than he needed to. I was aggravated either way because what I’m seeing in his activity is not as proficient as I would have liked them to be to cause this much difficulty in their capture.

I’m focusing on this because this is one of the very few pieces of evidence/actual fact that has been provided to us. But I’m still left pondering what I watched. So…

Are any of these images or videos time stamped or has law enforcement verified when these were recorded? Are with and without backpack shots from close time proximity to one another? Why do I find this important? His behavior takes on a different interpretation if this person was responsible for removal, a driver, or simply a lookout. When the clip starts the person is offscreen towards our left side of the doorway with their shadow visible. Where is that in location to say the garage, the main drive? Did this person just arrive because it’s time to take her out? This person annoys me less if his behavior fits his role.

None of the above is fact, just me thinking out loud. I appreciate reading other people’s posts because their thoughts help spur on my own, and hopefully this will do the same for someone else.

Praying for a (more) swift resolution.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I'm wondering if there's someone like that in the family. I've been thinking of the Reiner situation. The young adult with problems. That person on the porch acts like he belongs there. I also think they might be intoxicated on some kind of downer. Maybe they've been accustomed to family bailing them out. Maybe they think, or know, that NG keeps pain killers or cash in that house.

Whoever that is took great pains not to be recognized on camera or by NG if she woke up. Things went sideways. Did they call somebody for help? Did a car leave AG/TGs house in the middle of the night? Or did they call a friend? Someone else in the extended family? I don't think whoever is on that porch had the wherewithal to remove a body from the house and secret it away somewhere. Not alone. IMO

Very interesting possibilities. Good insights. IMO there is something off-kilter with the person on the porch and it could well be related to drugs or alcohol. They do act like they belong there.

Tremendous effort to mask face - wondering if this was so NG wouldn't recognize them since otherwise perhaps she would have recognized this person. JMO

Agree with Fargo that this person doesn't have the capacity, even with a gun pointed at NG, to be able to get NG out of the house on their own. JMHO

 

[nycpizzaparty]

Like this?

Yes I think so. Here's a male one with facial hair and a lady one with lashes too.

I think the mask visible through the eye holes is clearly female and possibly with lashes attached to the mask eyelids.

I think the mask visible through the mouth hole is male and has facial hair.

Maybe they cut up and layered them.

That takes some planning.

 

[LRinCA]

I’ve been wondering about used goods.
If i were to plan a crime, I’d purchase all of my supplies at Salvation Army stores or flea markets… pretty much untraceable. Or yard sales.

I guess there could be a jumble of DNA in used items, which could work to a perp's advantage.

(imo/jmo)

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Minutes being taken. Noted.

 

[MassGuy]

Just thinking about that door camera (based on something I saw on Twitter).

Removing the camera from the mount doesn’t stop it recording.

You’d have to break it, or remove it from WIFI range to do that.

So there is almost certainly additional video being held back.

 

[Magic8Ball]

Teens charged in $66M crypto home invasion plot in Scottsdale as search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson

Two California teens were arrested in a $66M crypto-related Arizona home invasion just before Nancy Guthrie vanished from Tucson. Authorities have not said if the cases are linked.

www.foxnews.com

This is an older article but I re-read it tonight just to refresh myself on the particulars of this crime to see how similar it was to the circumstances around NG's disappearance.

The timing is pretty uncanny.

JMO.

 

[NewYork625]

I guess there could be a jumble of DNA in used items, which could work to a perp's advantage.

(imo/jmo)

That, or his own DNA on his used clothes so he purchases all new clothes to lessen the chance of leaving behind any DNA at all.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021802019993051272

 

[thefragile7393]

Some drugs can make people blink at reduced rates compared to normal.

Or the perp has had surgery to remove his eyelids potentially?

Uh remove his eyelids?

 

[Fargo]

Just thinking about that door camera (based on something I saw on Twitter).

Removing the camera from the mount doesn’t stop it recording.

You’d have to break it, or remove it from WIFI range to do that.

So there is almost certainly additional video being held back.

Or take the back cover off and unplug the battery from the housing.

 

[Marzipan]

I believe it’s more about finances. Walmart is generally not expensive. Someone may come along and correct me though

Also, to be practical here so far as someone like this could be practical, you know you are not going to keep the clothes you wore in your closet after this where they can incriminate you. And if you wear your Patagonia it’s going to be so hard to part with it. Gotta go for something disposable.

 

[Chili Fries]

If I understand correctly, the man in the video inserted the plant into a slot in the Ring camera, which allowed him to remove/disable it.

If that's true and he had thoroughly cased the house before, why didn't he bring a little screwdriver or something specifically to do the job? In the video, he doesn't check his pockets or do anything that makes me think he discovered that he was missing something. He just immediately starts looking on the ground for some implement to do the job and obviously he knows that he needs something skinny to fit in the slot on the Ring.

This seems really weird to me and makes me think that he hadn't been in that front entranceway before and wasn't aware that the residence had a Ring.

 

[Wsimm]

Just thinking about that door camera (based on something I saw on Twitter).

Removing the camera from the mount doesn’t stop it recording.

You’d have to break it, or remove it from WIFI range to do that.

So there is almost certainly additional video being held back.

I wonder if front door suspect was expecting the Wi-Fi to be cut by another suspect before he appeared at the front door? I feel like I’m probably giving this suspect to many props, but it has been 10 days.

 

[thefragile7393]

I was thinking today maybe it's drug related. I know we've talked about cartel activity, which I don't subscribe to, but people will do very desperate things for drugs/drug money.
Maybe it's someone NG knows/a distance relative. Like some have pointed out, she's lived there for decades.
I'm not entirely sure the context of how this would play out given the facts we know, but yea could see some sort of drug use nexus.

In my opinion, this would be relevant if we had any confirmed sources saying that someone in the family has problems with drugs.

So far, no one has come forward saying any of this. even if someone in the family is involved in drugs, in my opinion I don’t know why they would target the Mom necessarily and not the person themselves.

 

[outback]

I guess there could be a jumble of DNA in used items, which could work to a perp's advantage.

(imo/jmo)

Yes but it would still be damning if the DNA belonged to somewhere closer to her.

Blood and semen would send the person to prison.

Jmo

 

[jtfolden]

If I understand correctly, the man in the video inserted the plant into a slot in the Ring camera, which allowed him to remove/disable it.

If that's true and he had thoroughly cased the house before, why didn't he bring a little screwdriver or something specifically to do the job? In the video, he doesn't check his pockets or do anything that makes me think he discovered that he was missing something. He just immediately starts looking on the ground for some implement to do the job and obviously he knows that he needs something skinny to fit in the slot on the Ring.

This seems really weird to me and makes me think that he hadn't been in that front entranceway before and wasn't aware that the residence had a Ring.

No, it was simply used to block the lens. Also it was a Nest camera, not Ring.