AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[m00c0w]

I could be wrong, but I think there is a video capture or render error there. Those gloves are THICK, like you would use for bbq or for handling dangerous chemicals. I’d be shocked to find out there is a hole in them.

I think those are just nitrile gloves over work gloves. I do the same thing when I want to protect my hands but I’m also touching stuff I don’t want on my gloves possibly permanently.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Maybe these guys wanted to be seen? The one guy looks right at the camera.

When I look at this video, I see a person exploring the home. They are cognizant of being seen, hence the ski-mask and they are aware of DNA, hence the gloves, or layers of gloves. They are bundled up, way beyond what a person from a colder climate would wear when its 30F, so a local. They don't see well at night, so they have this mouth-activated light and need it to navigate the step (it was moon-bright, that night and the perp leaves shadow its so bright). However, they don't seem to be prepared to deal with camera, but they quickly improvise. I think they have experience breaking into homes. While Nancy may have been targeted due to her family, to me its equally likely she was targeted because her house was dark (the porch light isn't on).

 

[aamillaa]

Yes, I am wondering the same!

I was wondering if they’re doing to keep media attention away from other areas…. But that seems like such a waste of man power for a diversion.

searching and researching but not securing either house is so odd to me. Wouldn’t anything they find be pretty much unusable for trial? Or at least an avenue for a defense attorney?

 

[Soccer Hooligan]

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She didn’t make it home, and the person in the video was staging/ distraction. The blood is proven to be Nancy, but it’s transfer.

Why did it take so long to find the glove?

Because of all the noise and distraction.

That’s what I believe. The masked person is all an act — making it look like a kidnapping. IMO — something happened at that dinner or on the way home. Or when they pulled in to “drop” her off. Maybe she said no more handouts or something. You never know what it takes to make someone snap. Again - IMO.

 

[SMK777]

I was wondering if they’re doing to keep media attention away from other areas…. But that seems like such a waste of man power for a diversion.

searching and researching but not securing either house is so odd to me. Wouldn’t anything they find be pretty much unusable for trial? Or at least an avenue for a defense attorney?

Yes, it's truly baffling to see them doing things which are commonly performed within the first 48-72 hours in a taped off crime scene.

This lady has been missing a very long time.

I'm truly stymied.

 

[aamillaa]

IMO I agree there's additional video we haven't seen.

I wish we had the timestamps from the videos we do have, so we could correlate them with the official timeline. I believe that there is probably not video after the 1:47AM "disconnects" event on the timeline. To me, that suggests that the battery was removed, the camera was destroyed, or it was taken far enough away from the house that it could no longer reach the network. It could have reconnected after that and uploaded more (live or cached) video, but we have heard nothing about that (of course there's a lot we haven't heard about...).

The 1:47AM time is the first event of the early morning that we have on the LE timeline, so that suggests to me that it's around when they suspect action started happening. So, based on what we know now, it seems that little if anything happened before 1:47, and I don't think we will get anything from this camera after 1:47. So my hopes for getting significant additional video and audio from during the event from this specific camera (not talking about any other alleged cameras) is pretty low.

All that said, anything is possible. Without knowing what time the videos we've seen are from, we have no way to know how closely those correlate with the "disconnected" event. And I don't put a huge amount of trust into the accuracy of that LE timeline, given other mis-steps, so maybe there's an error there. And perhaps most of the action happened before that disconnection but they just didn't have anything concrete to put on the timeline at the time they published it.

Anyway, here's to hoping, but I am not holding my breath.

My opinion only.

Above bolded by me.

Agree. I watched the video again this morning and there seems to be a few cuts. MOO. Not at all an expert on anything like that, so REALLY MOO, IMHO, etc.

 

[HoveringWombats]

I agree, it looks like a social worker from Adult Protective Services made a home visit and left a card. Which might be appropriate if they thought an older person had wandered off?

I know nothing at all about how these agencies operate, but it would be surprising to me if APS showed up at the scene of a suspected crime, where the sole occupant of the home was missing, and left a business card rather than going through police to contact the family. But I do know that cooperation and communication between various agencies can be, uh, challenging. And maybe the person just was out of the loop or had their wires crossed. Just surprises me. IMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The forensic reality is stark and immediate. Laboratory technicians are now hunting for microscopic skin cells that could have transferred from the suspect’s hands to the glove’s interior. If Nancy’s DNA isn’t on it, investigators face the disappointing possibility that some random worker dropped it. But even then, they won’t give up. Every DNA profile found on that glove will trigger a full background investigation, interviews, and detailed suspect analysis.

What’s telling investigators they’re onto something big is the location itself — one and a half miles from Nancy’s Catalina Foothills home. Harrigan points out that having FBI agents walking roadways this far from the crime scene signals “absolutely detailed work behind the scenes.” In kidnapping cases, there are no search perimeters. No limits. No stone left unturned.

FBI Expert: Black Glove Could Crack Missing TV Star’s Mother Case Wide Open - KTSA

DNA evidence from roadside discovery may finally identify Savannah Guthrie's mother's kidnapper after 11 days of searching

www.ktsa.com

 

[girlhasnoname]

I agree, it looks like a social worker from Adult Protective Services made a home visit and left a card. Which might be appropriate if they thought an older person had wandered off?

I've missed so many pages, but is it known when that card was left at Nancy's door?

 

[kspoon45]

When I look at this video, I see a person exploring the home. They are cognizant of being seen, hence the ski-mask and they are aware of DNA, hence the gloves, or layers of gloves. They are bundled up, way beyond what a person from a colder climate would wear when its 30F, so a local. They don't see well at night, so they have this mouth-activated light and need it to navigate the step (it was moon-bright, that night and the perp leaves shadow its so bright). However, they don't seem to be prepared to deal with camera, but they quickly improvise. I think they have experience breaking into homes. While Nancy may have been targeted due to her family, to me its equally likely she was targeted because her house was dark (the porch light isn't on).

I see their "experience" as not with breaking into homes, but more as familiarity with the home. It's a giant leap from breaking into a home for a robbery and kidnapping an elderly lady.

 

[Starkville]

If he was a 'professional' he would have one of those head mounted lights. He knows it's dark, so prepare for the 'conditions'.

IMO, a “bite light” might be more advantageous. Someone creeping around in the dark might want to be able to turn off/on the light instantly without hands.

 

[Cassie P]

Nancy Guthrie case: Could retail records help identify man in videos? Experts say 'the specific backpack style…’

The photos and videos released by the FBI in the Nancy Guthrie case could reveal a trove of information that investigators can use to identify the subject.

www.hindustantimes.com

"The specific backpack style, clothing brands, shoe type, even the ski mask pattern – all of these are traceable through retail purchases, particularly if bought locally," Dr. Gregory Vecchi, retired supervisory Special Agent and Chief of the FBI Behavioral Science Unit, told Fox News Digital. "The FBI will be canvassing sporting goods stores, tactical supply outlets and online purchase records."

Can the items be traced if bought at a Goodwill store or re-sell shop?

 

[samiam33]

You would think everyone in the area would be familiar with the case, but it doesn't seem that he or his family either were. Remember last night from the posts when the mother-in-law was saying sure, search our place, we have nothing to hide, and she could not come up with the name. When someone, perhaps the interviewer, prompted her, she agreed with the name. Not everyone stays tuned to the news, especially if they are scrambling, working multiple jobs, just trying to surviv

Right. It means masked man is there to help with the removal of NG, not that he was there as a clean up guy after the fact.

And I hate to say it, but the timeline is what leads me to believe she passed during the home invasion.

It was 40 minutes from camera destruction, to her being out of range of her phone. Seems if you are there for the purpose of kidnapping, you wouldn’t stay in the home with her for 40 minutes. If you are cleaning up a murder scene and burglarizing the home, you would

I can't help but wonder if the 40 minutes isn't accurate. The camera was disable at 1:48 or something like that, but image of person was picked up at 2:12. Do we know if the person/persons actually entered the home immediately after the camera was disabled? It seems possible that maybe they checked the property for more cameras or reorganized or who knows what...reconsidered...went back to the car for something....many possibilities. My point is do we know they actually entered the house immediately after disabling the camera? Is it possible the time inside was much shorter than 40 minutes?

 

[Cassie P]

I see their "experience" as not with breaking into homes, but more as familiarity with the home. It's a giant leap from breaking into a home for a robbery and kidnapping an elderly lady.

Maybe it didn't start out as a kidnapping, but a routine B&E. But it went sideways, they panicked and took the body with them to cover their tracks. Then decided to get a pay day from it. Or the ransom note is from someone else entirely.

 

[Cassie P]

I've missed so many pages, but is it known when that card was left at Nancy's door?

IDK but it would be an easy matter to call the head of APS and find out. And question the social worker.

 

[HoveringWombats]

I can't help but wonder if the 40 minutes isn't accurate. The camera was disable at 1:48 or something like that, but image of person was picked up at 2:12. Do we know if the person/persons actually entered the home immediately after the camera was disabled? It seems possible that maybe they checked the property for more cameras or reorganized or who knows what...reconsidered...went back to the car for something....many possibilities. My point is do we know they actually entered the house immediately after disabling the camera? Is it possible the time inside was much shorter than 40 minutes?

I agree. There are a lot of possibilities that could be consistent with the timeline and extremely limited information we have. We have zero information key things like when the home was actually entered, where the second camera that detected something was located, etc. We should be cautious about jumping to conclusions and then repeating them so often in here that they become accepted truth. We don't have enough information to know how long any perp or perps were in the house, IMO.

 

[Donswife48]

Porch lights are allowed. Mostly, they need to be pointed down and be under a certain wattage/lumens. (Former Catalina Foothills resident.)

Can they have a motion detector flood light? Maybe several along a driveway with a larger one on the porch. JMO

 

[judithannegg]

I was wondering if they’re doing to keep media attention away from other areas…. But that seems like such a waste of man power for a diversion.

searching and researching but not securing either house is so odd to me. Wouldn’t anything they find be pretty much unusable for trial? Or at least an avenue for a defense attorney?

I agree with you completely. Last count, they released Nancy's house back to the family four times after searching it. I remember how they did that within the first 24 hours which was crazy because they didn't even know yet what they were looking for. It's not like someone else lives there and needs their house back. And we are only just seeing boots on the ground in the last 24-48 hours. And no search or cadaver dogs have been used yet. And it was the 3rd or 4th search where they found an additional outside camera?

 

[FMFK]

Is it possible the individual is so calm because he knew she wasn’t home or never came home from the daughters house?

 

[LarryLujack]

From Ashleigh Banfield - it looks as if he may have torn a hole in the left index finger of his glove, from doorbell video released. I'm thinking possibly when he picked the flowers.

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Or perhaps NG's dog bit him and left a hole?