NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

[ChrisM]

I am curious about BT not surrounded by even at least one bodyguard due to telling his wife there were some people that had been threatening him. moo

it seems not only the shooter was exhibiting over confidence. BT, from what i understand, wouldn't have been seen as paranoid if he never left a bulletproof enclosure! he - as ceo of UHC - seems to have created a trail of resentful adversaries, but i guess you don't go into the healthcare insurance business to make friends.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I heard the reason UHC has the largest claim denial is they offer lower cost policies (than others) that don't include a lot of coverage. The people signing up sometimes have no idea what is included in a plan and what isn't, that causes a lot of denials and negative publicity.

That sounds plausible if correct. I guess it's the same with any type of insurance.

 

[thefragile7393]

If they had this cat's name, we wouldn't be viewing a couple of pixelated photos. They'd have the perp's IG page plastered all over the city (and country). I can't recall a time that LE intentionally withheld the identity of an imminently dangerous suspect merely to keep an investigation close to the vest. Public safety take priority over investigative integrity.

JMO.

The public at large isn't in danger. This was a targeted attack against a specific person. Still needing to be caught but he got his target and is likely trying to lay low now. He's not a serial killer.

 

[thefragile7393]

Or a p*ssed off customer of his company decided to take matters into his own hands.

Thats, IMO, a very likely plausible scenario.

 

[99cats]

Assuming he just picked NJ for a fake ID state due to proximity to NY? And maybe would seem more “casually visiting the city” as opposed to looking like you traveled across the country or world to be there? Not sure.

When you make a fake ID, can’t you just pick the state you want the ID to be from?

The NJ license is actually a curious detail to me. Many hostels won't allow 'locals' (the definition is somewhat nebulous) to stay, some even require an international passport. There was a hostel I stayed at in Boston which required proof that you resided at least 200 miles from the location.

 

[Herat]

It's mostly Greyhound and NJ Transit buses leaving every few hours, plus some specialty bus services that operate occasionally. The trip to Atlanta costs about $100 and takes about 24 hours on Greyhound. He most likely reached Atlanta by the time investigators figured out his presumed escape route. George Washington Bridge Bus Services

Paramount in his escape would be to get on a bus and get out of NYC.

As the timeline points out, he was at the bus station within 75 minutes of the shooting, preparing to leave. Just as LE was trying to figure out what had happened and were scrambling to get the distinctive video footage of the shooting.

I don't think he took the Greyhound bus bound for Atlanta from that station. That does not depart GWB until 1:25 pm. So he would have to sit or hide out in GWB station for 6 hours after the murder as LE is likely to be trying to search and lock down exits fro\ the city?

His planning was far more meticulous than requiring a 6 hour stay in the bus station waiting to escape NYC.

It makes far more sense that he would have chosen any of the numerous NJ Transit buses that departed for NJ, Pennsylvania, etc.

If his real destination was Atlanta by bus, I think he would be far more likely to take a NJ Transit bus to Newark and hang out in the Newark area to catch the Greyhound to Atlanta.

So LE needs to review the Newark bus station and airport CCTV very thoroughly. He could access Atlanta by bus, as postulated, but also any of a number of flights from Newark airport.

 

[thefragile7393]

Why go all the way to New York and carry out such detailed planning when same person could shoot him in Minnesota on his driveway or something, just doesn’t add up for me

Could have had other business there for legit reasons, or maybe the bus trip was cheaper

 

[SleuthJan]

If they had this cat's name, we wouldn't be viewing a couple of pixelated photos. They'd have the perp's IG page plastered all over the city (and country). I can't recall a time that LE intentionally withheld the identity of an imminently dangerous suspect merely to keep an investigation close to the vest. Public safety take priority over investigative integrity.

JMO.

I too think Mayor Adam’s is just saying this for public perception. And LE has not mentioned anything yet.

 

[Sunny Day]

This guy seems to be so meticulous in his planning. I find it really hard to believe that he "accidentally" left behind that treasure trove of evidence, such as the candy wrapper, water bottle, bullets/casings with the little notes on them. When he was seemingly unjamming his gun could this be a deliberate attempt to eject the bullets with the notes on them? And then leaving the backpack. He had to know it would be quickly found. Could all this just be "red herrings"?

 

[x_files]

I don't think it's weird. He dropped the backpack to get rid of it. He didn't take the time to hide it because there was no reason. His primary goal was to cover distance.

And he was right. By the time it was found, he's long gone.

jmo

Edited to add: I mean he didn't take the time to hide it by covering it. He "hid" it simply by its location. It's not out in the open, but it was simply dropped there, imo.

Thrown over a bridge while on a bike? Yes, that makes sense. I think the fact no one found it immediately weird.

 

[getthefax]

You generally don’t want a fake ID from the state you are living in. Any tiny mistake, and a bartender or someone is likely to notice it.

Underage drinking 101!

 

[GatorFL]

They know the name of the perp:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865467604845953296

 

[Jamara3]

The NJ license is actually a curious detail to me. Many hostels won't allow 'locals' (the definition is somewhat nebulous) to stay, some even require an international passport. There was a hostel I stayed at in Boston which required proof that you resided at least 200 miles from the location.

This is an interesting point, something that I was thinking about back during discussions about him potentially being international. Hostels are very different in the US and don’t have a great reputation. If housed by “locals” they’re usually more associated with drug use, prostitution, etc. The decent ones as you mention are usually involved with international exchange programs and are exclusive—not available or advertised to the general US public as a place to stay, as you mention.

 

[BrianJohnson]

Could have had other business there for legit reasons, or maybe the bus trip was cheaper

He would still need inside knowledge of BT’s movements, and know that BT would be leaving the hotel the time he did to head to Hilton, this guy even calmly had a Starbucks while waiting, someone must have been feeding him info on BT’s schedule

 

[krikken]

They know the name of the perp:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865467604845953296

"New York Post reports" being the operative part. Tabloid.

 

[Deleted member 306806]

They know the name of the perp:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865467604845953296

This is a rehash of the NY Post article on New York City Mayor Eric Adams claim 'the net is tightening' . Nothing new on ID.

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

A 'wonderful guy' who was one of the heads of an organization the denied benefits and life-savings drugs to cancer patients, children, and people with life-threatening illness.

UnitedHealthcare accused of relying on AI algorithms to deny Medicare Advantage claims

United Healthcare is being accused of denying a growing number of claims for post-acute care as it shifted to using artificial intelligence to automate the process.

www.foxbusiness.com

We have had UHC for years, and it has been an overall good insurance for us. Another poster talked about how a company's HR decides what level of coverage they offer to their employees.

I know that our last company must have picked one of the lowest coverages. We had $10,000 deductible each with us paying a lot out of pocket even with procedures that were covered. We also paid about $1,000 a month just for the coverage that we had.

Our insurance premiums shot through the roof with the passage of Obamacare. I have heard many are not satisfied with that coverage, either.

Insurance is private industry and has to make a profit to survive. IMO, it is there to cover the "Bell" curve and those unfortunate few that fall on the outer fringes are usually the ones who suffer most. In sum, life is not fair.

Bottom Line: I don't think that BT deserved to be murdered.

JMO.

 

[Stunned]

I think he lives in NYC and did all that traveling to throw everyone off his game.

 

[MassGuy]

NEW: Police divers combed through a pond in Central Park Saturday for more clues into their hunt for the suspect involved with gunning down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson earlier in the week.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865493495940538402

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Thank you for this. I saw this article, and do appreciate it, but I’m still holding out for confirmation once they find it.

The Station 6 is larger, and
the VP9 has the advantage of disassembly. We saw the killer begin to disassemble the weapon almost immediately after the shooting… VP9 is designed to be easily concealed or disposed of as it breaks down into three pieces.

Re:VP9 … those are features every “veterinarian” needs … immediately disassemble to conceal!
I heard Anderson Copper talking about this firearm as if it’s a legit for animal doctor to have this kind of quiet gun.
Please think this thru … the manufacturer is calling it “veterinarian” gun so can openly talk about features which are relevant for shooting people!

Horses needing to be shot, at race courses or other places where they break limbs are not typically in a quiet stable where a gunshot would be frightening for other horses. They break legs outside - on the track, or in an arena … which can be evacuated. And the dead horse can be more easily removed. Vets don’t shoot them in a stable where it’s difficult to get tractor or lift to remove the body from a small stall with small door AND get blood all over the stall where another horses will smell the blood.
Wake up Anderson!! It’s not a veterinary tool! IMO …