NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

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  • #681
Maybe he’s a college student and it was good timing to do this over thanksgiving break.

Hope police are checking class syllabi for reading requirements. The book referenced that is critical on health insurance isn't likely to be read by someone that young unless mandated.

JMO.
 
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  • #683
“WE don’t want to release that now,
WE revealed his face.
WE’re going to reveal who he is

I feel that Adams just HAS to be part of the drama....

I hope someone will post as soon as his statements are validated by LE or FBI.
Really. Did Adams hold a special news conference? If so, what was the purpose? I would think that a mayor would only hold a news conference to assure the people (citizens and visitors) that they were not in danger (at least, not from this guy) and defer all questions to NYPD and/FBI.

JMO.
 
  • #684
Well surely it would be smarter to carry on pretending they don’t have a name, if that’s the case? Saying they know his name but they’re not telling anybody is just the same as letting the shooter know that they know his name? Unless I’m missing something?
You’re not missing anything. You’re spot on. Saying “we know his name” tells the guy they know his identity. Maybe this is misreporting, maybe Adams spoke out of turn, maybe it’s a bluff. Either way, it doesn’t make much sense.
 
  • #685
Hope police are checking class syllabi for reading requirements. The book referenced that is critical on health insurance isn't likely to be read by someone that young unless mandated.

JMO.
Or by someone of any age who has seen a loved one die of a disease that could possibly have been saved with a more generous insurance coverage. I don’t think coursework has much to do with it.
 
  • #686
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Is it UHC blue?
I figured that it was a company color or a college team color. Since it was an investor (business) meeting, company color would be my first choice.

I thought about college team because my husband always wears a Clemson Tiger paw on all of his suits/jackets. ;)

JMO.
 
  • #688
Hope police are checking class syllabi for reading requirements. The book referenced that is critical on health insurance isn't likely to be read by someone that young unless mandated.

JMO.
What's interesting is that this book was written by a Rutgers law professor. I wonder if this would be required reading for some L1's or L2's at Rutgers.
 
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  • #690
Long time lurker. I don't think enough time and consideration has been given to the video of the suspect talking on a burner phone just prior to the murder. Who was he talking to? If a burner, it is unlikely he was checking in with parents or someone else intimately involved with him. So who does that leave?

JMO.
Maybe he wasn’t talking on the phone but using it as a prop while he waited for BT to walk by.
 
  • #691
Hmm, that's a good point. I had him around 30-35, but I could also see 25-ish. If it were an employee (and that theory is much less plausible than the egomaniac Robin Hood theory IMO), I could see him as some sort of management/IT consultant. I'm not sure how the major health insurers work, but I worked for a finance firm, and some of our highest paid IT consultants were around 27-35.
I just doubt he would be senior enough to have day to day dealings with, or fired by BT if he got sacked by his line manager I would imagine his anger/wish for vengeance would be aimed at his line manager not BT
 
  • #692
What's interesting is that this book was written by a Rutgers law professor. I wonder if this would be required reading for some L1's or L2's at Rutgers.
Indeed. Rutgers ----> New Jersey -----> fake ID.
 
  • #693
A shot to the head would’ve immobilized him too most likely, right? so it is curious that he shot at the leg first. Almost like he wanted to immobilize but have him still be conscious enough to know what was happening..? Idk
Jmo
My first impression was that he targeted the leg to kick off the pain that was about to unfold.
 
  • #694
Updated timeline: abbreviated from https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/07/us/timeline-brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-killing/index.html

Sunday, November 24

10:11 p.m. –
The suspect arrives in New York at the Port Authority bus terminal ( 42nd Street and Eighth Avenue) via a bus that originated in Atlanta. Gets into a cab that takes him to the vicinity of the New York Hilton Midtown hotel. Stays about half an hour.

11 p.m. – The suspect takes another cab to a hostel at 891 Amsterdam Ave. on the Upper West Side.

Friday, November 29 – The suspect checks out of the hostel.

“It’s not your traditional check in, check out. It’s the kind of thing where if you don’t show up at a certain time, they automatically just check you out,” Kenny said. “We don’t believe that he went someplace else. It’s more of an administrative checkout.”

^This explains why he needed to check back in.

Saturday, November 30 – checks back into the hostel.

Monday, December 2 – Thompson arrives in New York

Wednesday, December 4

5:30 a.m. –
Suspect leaves the hostel, possibly by bike.

5:41 a.m. – seen wandering around the vicinity of Hilton on Sixth Avenue between West 53rd and 54th Streets, goes back and forth before heading toward a Starbucks.

Around 6:17 a.m. – At Starbucks, shows him buys a bottle of water and two energy bars roughly 30 minutes before the shooting.

6:19 a.m. – video near a deli on West 55th Street shows the suspect walking and briefly stops by a pile of trash. places something.

6:30 a.m. – Around 6:30 a.m., video captures the gunman on the phone.

6:44 a.m. – Thompson, walks toward the Hilton after leaving his hotel across the street. Gunman is waiting outside.
The gunman comes up behind Thompson and shoots him in the back .. then walks toward Thompson and continues to shoot, stopping to clear a gun jam before firing again.

gunman crosses the street from the Hilton, flees northbound through an alley between 54th Street and 55th Street, and gets on an electric bike on 55th Street
heads north on Sixth Avenue toward Central Park.

6:46 a.m. – 911 call of a person shot in front of the Hilton

6:48 a.m. – gunshot wounds to his back and leg... taken to the hospital by EMS.

6:48 a.m- Suspect is seen riding an electric bike into Central Park at 60th Street

6:56 a.m. – Suspect rides out of the park.

6:58 a.m. - Seen on the bike at 85th Street and Columbus Avenue.

7:00 a.m. - He is no longer on the bike and is heading northbound on 86th Street.

7:04 a.m. - The suspect gets into a cab.

7:30 a.m. – Suspect is seen near the George Washington Bridge and a Port Authority bus terminal off 178th Street.
He does not exit

Friday, December 6

backpack found in Central Park that they believe belonged to the suspect

confirming the origin of the bag and tested ongoing
Do we know what street he exited Central Park, i seem to recall it was in the 70s. And ty for this great timeline.
 
  • #695
Long time lurker. I don't think enough time and consideration has been given to the video of the suspect talking on a burner phone just prior to the murder. Who was he talking to? If a burner, it is unlikely he was checking in with parents or someone else intimately involved with him. So who does that leave?

JMO.
Imo he was talking to an accomplice.
I think the reason this is not discussed much is because someone always responds that he might have been faking a call or adjusting his hoodie.

Also, according to one of the timelines from msm he was seen appearing to talk on the phone 3 minutes after Starbucks..with nothing but the phone in his hands. This seems noteworthy to me.
 
  • #696
Maybe he wasn’t talking on the phone but using it as a prop while he waited for BT to walk by.
Possible. I understand folks fake those kinds of things to avoid social interactions sometimes, but probabilities suggest he was actually on the phone. It's more probable that he was communicating with an accomplice, especially since it turns out this was a burner phone. Why have a burner phone without an accomplice(s)? Setting up a cab? Bus? Then why leave the phone on scene?
 
  • #697
What's interesting is that this book was written by a Rutgers law professor. I wonder if this would be required reading for some L1's or L2's at Rutgers.
As in Rutgers University, New Brunswick and Newark, New Jersey.

Rutger's Law Thanksgiving break was Thursday, Nov. 28 to Dec 1.

The perp has been in NYC since Nov 24 and only departed Dec 4, so he would have been absent for an extra week. Not a difficult thing to check, and I imagine the college has already had a quiet visit from LE.
 
  • #698
You are so right. NYC is amazing and I think utterly unique worldwide in this way. anything, any time, 24/7.
It’s why I “can’t quit” NYC. Can’t bring myself to move elsewhere.
 
  • #699
If the have the name why did the FBI increase the reward? Even by saying you have the name you're tipping him off. I don't understand the reason for the mayor to be commenting about anything right now. All JMO

I have the same questions regarding the increased reward....IF they really truly want leads, you would think they would make SURE to add the name.
I have a hunch the name--and the accuracy of said name--are in real question.

And if you read the post by Krikken upthread.... This CAN be interpreted in different ways:

Sounds like no one other than the Post is taking Adams's comment seriously, or maybe Adams was asked if they had a name and he responded "We're not going to release that" [whether or not they have a name].
 
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