NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

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  • #881
A paid shooter sure, but not a professional hitman. It’s ludicrous to pop in to Starbucks for breakfast, be it water, a coffee or a 3 course meal.
Paid? not sure. LIkely this was all on his own, IMO. If you're going to pay then you're going to pay for a professional.
 
  • #882
The idea that a professional hitman turned up to a job hungry and thirsty is preposterous to me.
Millenials, gen z and alpha stay well hydrated all the time. Gen X is still trying to catch up after our dehydrated upbringing. In The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmitt, when she emerges after 15 years in a bunker she says, “Why is everybody carrying water?”

Truly though, you are right. It’s preposterous that he did a Starbucks run.
 
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  • #884
That's my always-under-investigation mayor! He's also former LE.
Welp, he sounds like he just watches too much cop TV
 
  • #885
Entirely plausible.

That fake NJ ID is a bit risky for a hostel, I have to admit. I've read that hostels do not want locals staying there who will attempt to live there and take up residence, but want to keep the lodgings as temporary for travelers.
I think if the booking was made using a “home” address way outside of the “no locals allowed” area, say Atlanta or wherever, he’d feel pretty safe saying “I moved for work but I’m back in the NY/NJ visiting family for Thanksgiving, so figured I’d do some NYC sightseeing/photography at the same time.” if he’d have been asked. I don’t think it’s particularly unusual to move states and still use the ID you got in your home state until it expires, which would be four years for a (real!) New Jersey license.
 
  • #886

"Thompson earned around $10 million per year with his salary at United Healthcare."

Maybe where those profits are going is what is making US Citizens angry.
Have you checked the salaries of most CEO's? Most have a base salary with big bonuses...even companies like Google and Facebook.

JMO.
 
  • #887
I wonder if the jacket and the backpack were bought second hand so they would have someone else's DNA all over them, probably far more of it than his.
Someone else suggested that about the backpack and it’s stuck with me. People want to bash him for being sloppy, etc, but … he hasn’t lost yet. While he was caught on camera, it could be that he was aware or planned for how to handle should his face be seen (shaved vs usual facial beard?). So it wouldn’t surprise me if he also found a way to muddy up his dna.
 
  • #888
[…] Truly though, you are right. It’s preposterous that he did a Starbucks run.
All part of the performance. And it really was a performance.
 
  • #889
Apparently they have his jacket.. Was it in the backpack?

"Police now have the jacket the suspect who assassinated United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was wearing during the brazen shooting in Midtown, and are closing in on the killer, The Post has learned."

Just responding to myself here to clarify my posts in one from this NY post article (not corroborated from any other sources from what I can see currently)

"Police recovered the backpack worn by the killer during a search of Central Park Friday and found the jacket he wore inside, police sources said."

 
  • #890
I wonder if the jacket and the backpack were bought second hand so they would have someone else's and their dogs DNA all over them, probably far more of it than his.
I have to wonder this as well. This guy clearly did a lot of planning for this. I would think he would have planned it down to the very small detail like this.
 
  • #891
Anything is possible on the dark web. I would not think you would have to be in NJ, or any other state to get a fake ID with that imprimateur. However, it might be a less conspicuous source if your ID was from a neighboring state and you were using it for various things in NY or NJ, including getting on and off buses. NJ would not be as memorable as say, Alaska or Hawaii.

He's keeping it all non-memorable, bland, not likely to draw attention.
Good point Herat. Even if he’s from Atlanta he’s not using a Georgia ID. Probably half the people at the hostel are using NJ ID’s.
Definitely trying not to draw attention.
 
  • #892
Someone else suggested that about the backpack and it’s stuck with me. People want to bash him for being sloppy, etc, but … he hasn’t lost yet. While he was caught on camera, it could be that he was aware or planned for how to handle should his face be seen (shaved vs usual facial beard?). So it wouldn’t surprise me if he also found a way to muddy up his dna.
agreed, for all we know, every single "sloppy" thing he did was on purpose.
 
  • #893
Great point re: the hostel. This spurred another thought I had. I've stayed at a number of different hostels, and - generally - HI USA hostels are the biggest, the cleanest, the most 'corporate', and most well traveled hostels. Usually, they're a bit more expensive, and more stringent with their rules. It was an interesting choice for the shooter to stay there, vs. something like Jazz on Columbus Circle, which was much closer to where the murder took place. According to Google reviews, there's no 24/7 reception and it seems much more - lets say flexible - than HI USA. The flip side of that is if HI USA was busy, he could better blend in - but there's also a chance he would have been seen by fewer people at Jazz.

As postulated upthread, he could have chosen a hostel for three reasons:

1. It was cheaper than a hotel room for his stay of 10 nights.

2. The rooms house several people at a time so there would be a mix of DNA that would make identifying him, in particular, more difficult.

3. A hotel would have more people around to see him, and more CCTV cameras for images to document his comings and goings.
 
  • #894
We have had UHC for years, and it has been an overall good insurance for us. Another poster talked about how a company's HR decides what level of coverage they offer to their employees.

I know that our last company must have picked one of the lowest coverages. We had $10,000 deductible each with us paying a lot out of pocket even with procedures that were covered. We also paid about $1,000 a month just for the coverage that we had.

Our insurance premiums shot through the roof with the passage of Obamacare. I have heard many are not satisfied with that coverage, either.

Insurance is private industry and has to make a profit to survive. IMO, it is there to cover the "Bell" curve and those unfortunate few that fall on the outer fringes are usually the ones who suffer most. In sum, life is not fair.

Bottom Line: I don't think that BT deserved to be murdered.

JMO.

An insurance policy is a legal contract that outlines what is covered and the applicable terms. Many experimental or investigational treatments are excluded from coverage. In group insurance plans, coverage decisions are typically made by the employer, with the insurance company managing the administration of benefits. The primary purpose of insurance is to protect against financial devastation—not to provide "free" doctor visits. While there's much more to discuss, it's worth noting that demonizing insurance often stems from a mix of valid concerns and falsehoods/misconceptions.
 
  • #895

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson Was Living Separately From Wife Before His Death​




Kenny also said investigators are "looking at everything"—including Thompson's social media and interviews with employees and family—that could help in the case. They're also working with Minnesota and Atlanta law enforcement.
 
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  • #896
Part of me has been entertaining some degree of an accomplice just because of the phone. He could have definitely pulled all this off on his own, but assuming (was it confirmed?) the phone was his, why would he need it? He seems to have done his homework, so was the phone used to do that homework (return bus schedule, mapping, etc)? Otherwise it seems to just be a liability.
If he is a hacker, he needed the phone to location track his victim. Once the deed was done the phone was a liability
 
  • #897
As postulated upthread, he could have chosen a hostel for three reasons:

1. It was cheaper than a hotel room for his stay of 10 nights.

2. The rooms house several people at a time so there would be a mix of DNA that would make identifying him, in particular, more difficult.

3. A hotel would have more people around to see him, and more CCTV cameras for images to document his comings and goings.
Cash, no deposit, no credit/debit card required. They also accepted his fake ID.
 
  • #898
As postulated upthread, he could have chosen a hostel for three reasons:

1. It was cheaper than a hotel room for his stay of 10 nights.

2. The rooms house several people at a time so there would be a mix of DNA that would make identifying him, in particular, more difficult.

3. A hotel would have more people around to see him, and more CCTV cameras for images to document his comings and goings.
Oh, I'm sorry - I should have clarified. Jazz is a hostel as well. It's just closer to the shooting location and strikes me as having fewer security features and identification policies than a chain like HI USA.
 
  • #899
Maybe he had to pee. Bought energy bar + water (no prep time) to get a code for the washroom.
 
  • #900
So, safe to assume the backpack was missing something that they were expecting to find?
which i don't think is surprising considering how this has played out so far...
 
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