NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

[nao]

Moo..the shooter knows they are going to back track him. So I doubt he is from Atlanta or Georgia....moo

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

As postulated upthread, he could have chosen a hostel for three reasons:

1. It was cheaper than a hotel room for his stay of 10 nights.

2. The rooms house several people at a time so there would be a mix of DNA that would make identifying him, in particular, more difficult.

3. A hotel would have more people around to see him, and more CCTV cameras for images to document his comings and goings.

A hotel is much stricter at check-in. The guest needs a valid credit card with his name on it. It can't be one of those generic credit cards purchased from Walmart, for instance. That, along with more people and cameras, would also be a disadvantage to this guy.

JMO.

 

[x_files]

As postulated upthread, he could have chosen a hostel for three reasons:

1. It was cheaper than a hotel room for his stay of 10 nights.

2. The rooms house several people at a time so there would be a mix of DNA that would make identifying him, in particular, more difficult.

3. A hotel would have more people around to see him, and more CCTV cameras for images to document his comings and goings.

Could have picked up a FREE jacket in the lost and found or switched jackets with someone else.

 

[Elley Mae]

Jacket probably has powder residue so get rid of that.

Jmo

 

[Boodles]

It's mostly Greyhound and NJ Transit buses leaving every few hours, plus some specialty bus services that operate occasionally. The trip to Atlanta costs about $100 and takes about 24 hours on Greyhound. He most likely reached Atlanta by the time investigators figured out his presumed escape route. George Washington Bridge Bus Services

At this point, I think he took a bus and went to EWR, and immediately got on a plane and left the country, flying to a point in the western hemisphere, like Costa Rica, Belize, Mexico…

He may have told his friends/colleagues that he was taking a vacation over the Thanksgiving holiday to explain his recon time in NYC. Then he did the murder and escaped immediately to another country where he maybe plans to stay. He could probably have flown to South or Latin America on a morning flight from Newark. I believe most flights to Europe would be evening flights from JFK. That would mean hanging around NY all day, which would be too risky.

And if he got a fake NJ ID, he might have been able to get a different fake passport so they couldn’t track him under his real name or the fake NJ murderer name. (I wonder how difficult it is to get a fake passport.)

I just think he’s left the country because with his face being on all the media, I feel like they would have located him by now within the US. Surely someone who knows him has contacted the authorities and identified him. BTW, I think this guy has some money.

Just speculating JMO.

 

[99cats]

Could have picked up a FREE jacket in the lost and found or switched jackets with someone else.

That's an amazing point. When I used to stay in hostel dorms in my younger years, other folks would leave their clothes hanging from bunk bed posts, over the wardrobes, etc. It would've been quite easy to snatch someone else's jacket - I actually had someone take my shoes once.

 

[Stargazer90]

The reward is up to 60k now.

 

[eddie_van]

An insurance policy is a legal contract that outlines what is covered and the applicable terms. Many experimental or investigational treatments are excluded from coverage. In group insurance plans, coverage decisions are typically made by the employer, with the insurance company managing the administration of benefits. The primary purpose of insurance is to protect against financial devastation—not to provide "free" doctor visits. While there's much more to discuss, it's worth noting that demonizing insurance often stems from a mix of valid concerns and falsehoods/misconceptions.

the anger usually comes from the insurance company denying things that the contract says they should cover.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

"The bus the suspect is believed to have boarded out of the city made six or seven stops, and investigators have followed leads in multiple states, the sources said."

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting latest: Suspect's backpack had Monopoly money: Sources

The manhunt for the suspect who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has now entered its fourth day as authorities learn more about his movements before the attack.

abcnews.go.com

 

[x_files]

That's an amazing point. When I used to stay in hostel dorms in my younger years, other folks would leave their clothes hanging from bunk bed posts, over the wardrobes, etc. It would've been quite easy to snatch someone else's jacket - I actually had someone take my shoes once.

It can easily happen by accident.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I don’t comprehend how they still haven’t accessed the phone. It’s not rocket science. There’s very reliable tech that does this in minutes, i. e. Cellebrite.

Maybe he encrypted the *advertiser censored* out of it before disposing of the device? That’s the only plausible scenario, and would lend to him having no worries about the police getting the phone (except for the DNA).

MOO

ok.. thanks for this. It's helpful.

everything seems so incognito....

a fingerprint, but too smudged.
a phone,, but no access.
on a bus from Atlanta...but no idea idea where he got on.
on a bus out of GWB, but no idea where he went.
A name. Now, probably not.
Backpack. Nothing to report. yet.
A bike. No idea where.

 

[MassGuy]

Someone else suggested that about the backpack and it’s stuck with me. People want to bash him for being sloppy, etc, but … he hasn’t lost yet. While he was caught on camera, it could be that he was aware or planned for how to handle should his face be seen (shaved vs usual facial beard?). So it wouldn’t surprise me if he also found a way to muddy up his dna.

They seem to know that water bottle and phone was his; I don't think it's a guess. No matter what he did, his room at the hostel would be covered in his DNA. There was reporting yesterday that some of the recovered rounds had DNA on them as well. That backpack is likely to also be a goldmine in that regard.

This guy isn't some master criminal, and things seem to have gone wrong after the fact. There's this tendency to build these guys' actions up into something almost mythical. Once we find out who he is, we'll see that he's nothing special.

 

[VAres67]

"The bus the suspect is believed to have boarded out of the city made six or seven stops, and investigators have followed leads in multiple states, the sources said."

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting latest: Suspect's backpack had Monopoly money: Sources

The manhunt for the suspect who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has now entered its fourth day as authorities learn more about his movements before the attack.

abcnews.go.com

Oh so they have an exact bus in mind!

 

[SlimPickens]

IMO, no. If they believed the public at large was in danger, they would have released the name with BOLOs. So far no crimes have come up that fit what this person did, no other crimes are being connected, no other high profile targets have been targeted.

So, the simplest explanation is the one that's been postulated-he was targeted, gunman is in hiding, no other victims. I mean sure it's possible other CEOs could be targeted, but so far that hasn't been shown to be the case.

I am not contending that the CEO wasn't targeted and that the gunman isn't in hiding. I am disputing the idea that if LE knew his name they wouldn't release it. Of course they would! Because while it is speculative to conclude that he won't (or wouldn't) kill anyone else, it isn't speculative to conclude that he is most certainly capable of it.

JMO.

 

[wibbleflea]

I wonder if the jacket and the backpack were bought second hand so they would have someone else's and their dogs DNA all over them, probably far more of it than his.

In support of this: Peter Dering, the CEO of Peak Design, believes that the backpack was the earlier version of the Everyday Carry, made between 2016 and 2019. Peak Design made the item.

"The CEO identified the bag as a version of Peak Design’s Everyday Backpack, which the company stopped producing in 2019." (Fortune magazine.)

You can still get the Everyday Backpack but the updated version: the v2.

 

[SleuthJan]

The reward is up to 60k now.

They have no clue about the guy, JMO

 

[eddie_van]

I am not contending that the CEO wasn't targeted and that the gunman isn't in hiding. I am disputing the idea that if LE knew his name they wouldn't release it. Of course they would! Because while it is speculative to conclude that he won't (or wouldn't) kill anyone else, it isn't speculative to conclude that he is most certainly capable of it.

JMO.

yeah I don't see why they would withhold the name either. the whole purpose of getting the name is to blast it everywhere, making his capture guaranteed unless he is prepared to live in the forest for the rest of his life

 

[whitelilac]

"The bus the suspect is believed to have boarded out of the city made six or seven stops, and investigators have followed leads in multiple states, the sources said."

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting latest: Suspect's backpack had Monopoly money: Sources

The manhunt for the suspect who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has now entered its fourth day as authorities learn more about his movements before the attack.

abcnews.go.com

So they've identified which bus he took?

 

[armchairagatha]

I originally thought there was a good chance that the guy was still in the USA. But given how well planned and methodical this whole operation has been, I now think that he had the full escape plan chalked out in detail as well. It would have required perfect timing but I wouldn’t be surprised if he boarded the flight that was supposed to take him to safety by Wednesday evening itself and is now safely in some foreign country that won’t extradite him. JMO. I don’t think this guy is a US citizen.

 

[EBW321]

Just for clarity… so many conflicting reports.

Have they recovered the exact e bike he used?

Originally it was said he was on a city e bike then his own personal e bike he must have got himself.

I only ask because for me the big question isn’t so much how he got back to a bus station to get out of town after…

But where he stopped to leave(ditch) the bike and catch a cab (reported today) to the bus station. Where it’s reported he caught the same bus line back to Atlanta.

Moo.. I’d assume the point at which he leaves the e bike behind before catching the cab…. Is the only time he actually stops and it’s not for long. So this is also when / where I assume he changed clothes and got rid of the weapon and picked up his items, clothes he’d been traveling with to leave. Again moo.. I’d guess this is when he changes his outfit / appearance enough to not be so obviously the man in all the surveillance photos. To make the last part of his getaway without being recognized. I mean he got a cab next.

Again MOO. This stop must have been well concealed and locker of some type. Or even storage closet to pick up what he needed and leave the bike behind concealed.

just trying to add up the facts to make more sense of it all.

Hard to believe he’d go to so much effort concealing identity and commit such a crime with an attempt to get away… and get on the same bus he came in on. Essentially locking himself into the bus for however long to the next stop.

Just seems very risky and not in line with his need to remain in control of his getaway if cops closed in on him and the bus sooner… which was possible… given all the mistakes he made… that would be a hard situation to escape.

Just curious if anyone else knows more or if they have reported anymore on this.