NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

[KaylynnCouture]

I can already see the heads of NYPD and the FBI banging against a table every time Mayor Adams begins interjecting himself into this. Just not helpful. At all.

 

[ElizaKate]

I agree. It seems it's by the lake at the north end of the mall. ?? That is not south of the carousel as previously reported.

If he threw the gun in the lake, he wasn't on the route I thought he was.

Eventually we will know, but I want the details now.

jmo

I posted this earlier re. location of found backpack NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

 

[99cats]

I still believe there's a NJ connection. I think he's American and has traveled abroad. It's very common for students/young adults to stay in hostels as they travel, not just because they're cheaper, but because you meet lots of other travelers. Hostels around the world have a very similar business model. In my experience, most Americans that are budget minded don't even think of a hostel stay in the US. A few years ago I stayed at a really nice one in LA. Everyone I know family/friends had no idea that the US had hostels.

Agreed. At almost every hostel I've stayed at in the US, most of the other visitors were international travelers. The Americans I have met in US-based hostels have been longer term travelers, with a smattering of retirees who primarily stay in single rooms. They're usually located in areas frequented by international travelers as well.

 

[getthefax]

May be hiding in same city, others would gladly hide him out. I believe this will set a trend. The CEO's that have gotten death threats will hire security teams now.

I think those people are grossly overstating their welcoming arms, and are just blowing hot air… I would genuinely love to see how they would actually respond when faced with the prospect of having an assassin sleeping on the couch and popping by the fridge for a beer

 

[10ofRods]

If they have an idea who this perp is, then yes, the DNA on the backpack and the water bottle will finish him, most likely.

If it has to go to IGG, that's a longer bet and depends a lot on his background. If he knows that some of his relatives are the type to submit to open databases, he would be better off skipping the country ASAP. He needs to avoid that cheek swab.

I get the feeling that this is a man who values outsmarting LE and is treating each day at large as a bonus to having completed his main goal (revenge). That makes him a bit of Tom Ripley character.

I showed his picture to some students and they said there was nothing memorable about him and they doubted they could remember that "average face." One asked if it was Bryan Kohberger and said he resembles him. While some people are excellent at storing databases of faces, most people aren't.

He can rely on a hoodie and a scarf to mask a lot of what is distinctive about him. He's probably not going to be smiling in public so frequently.

I too believe he went "back home" (where ever that is) and will wait this out. I predict he's something of a loner, but does have family somewhere (but they are unlikely to turn him in). He will likely change his hair and grow facial hair. As time passes, the average Joe Public will not remember or recognize him - but LE will be looking for him.

If he was able to leave the country before the entire story broke, that would make this a very well-planned assassination indeed. I am assuming that JFK no longer has luggage lockers, but I too have pondered whether he had another backpack stashed out in the park, not far from where he dropped the first one. I also ponder if he masked his fingerprints (easy enough to do).

IMO

 

[clearskies1]

Maybe he went into disguise here on after

I just edited my post -- it seems they know he got on a bus that made 6 or 7 stops. UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting latest: Police search Central Park pond for evidence

 

[clearskies1]

I agree. It seems it's by the lake at the north end of the mall. ?? That is not south of the carousel as previously reported.

If he threw the gun in the lake, he wasn't on the route I thought he was.

Eventually we will know, but I want the details now.

jmo

Interesting. Thank you!

 

[Curiousobserver]

Oh he absolutely did put a lot of effort into it, which is why this whole thing is so remarkable.

We just don’t see this level of commitment and planning, like ever. He seemingly thought of everything, and knew exactly what he was doing.

Had he done this like 30 years ago, he probably gets away with it.

And the timing of it all is what amazes me. He got there at exactly the right time and seemed to know he had time to stop at Starbucks. That man was only going to be in front of that building for <1 minute before he went inside!

 

[nhmemorymaker]

They seem to know that water bottle and phone was his; I don't think it's a guess. No matter what he did, his room at the hostel would be covered in his DNA. There was reporting yesterday that some of the recovered rounds had DNA on them as well. That backpack is likely to also be a goldmine in that regard.

This guy isn't some master criminal, and things seem to have gone wrong after the fact. There's this tendency to build these guys' actions up into something almost mythical. Once we find out who he is, we'll see that he's nothing special.

Quite certainly, they would have gotten gobs of DNA and fingerprints in the Hostel room where he stayed. They don't have to wait for the backpack.
However, reports after scouring the Hostel have indicated this:
But fingerprints gathered during the investigation have been a dead end so far, the chief of detectives said.

This just leads more and more to a foreigner. No one recognizes him, no fingerprints can be tracked. I would assume they have been scouring all the smaller airports within a particular radius of the City too. But how far? IF they really do NOT have an actual bus departure from GWB station, he could have been picked up by a car....

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Not necessarily. Having something denied which the policy is stated to cover would justifiably cause anger. But many assume things will be covered and then flip out when they’re not, whether it’s a $20 copay or a lifesaving experimental procedure costing many thousands of $. Medical benefits are a very emotional matter. Dealing with health issues and $ (never mind the customer service frustrations) can cause much angst.

It's worth keeping in mind that even in the UK, with our NHS, disputes arise between doctors/hospitals on the one hand and families/patients on the other, especially over issues of end of life care and matters of medical futility. Eg, the Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans cases.

 

[99cats]

I think those people are grossly overstating their welcoming arms, and are just blowing hot air… I would genuinely love to see how they would actually respond when faced with the prospect of having an assassin sleeping on the couch and popping by the fridge for a beer

I'd imagine the vast majority are simply posturing, but there may be some concern that the 1-2% that aren't will actively assist the shooter. Some folks have claimed that the shooter is a "hero", that they "hope he does it again", and all manner of quite disturbing fanfare.

 

[MassGuy]

Quite certainly, they would have gotten gobs of DNA and fingerprints in the Hostel room where he stayed. They don't have to wait for the backpack.
However, reports after scouring the Hostel have indicated this:
But fingerprints gathered during the investigation have been a dead end so far, the chief of detectives said.

This just leads more and more to a foreigner. No one recognizes him, no fingerprints can be tracked. I would assume they have been scouring all the smaller airports within a particular radius of the City too. But how far? IF they really do NOT have an actual bus departure from GWB station, he could have been picked up by a car....

We know of one smudged print right now, and don’t know if they have a good one.

Even if they had a good print, that doesn’t mean it’s in any database.

 

[K.jill]

I can already see the heads of NYPD and the FBI banging against a table every time Mayor Adams begins interjecting himself into this. Just not helpful. At all.

I am wondering if they can keep details of the investigation from Adams? Seems foolish to share things with him.

 

[whitelilac]

They've had that backpack for nearly a day now. It's been X-rayed and opened, yet they've not disclosed anything yet. I would have thought they'd at least make mention of whether the gun was retrieved or not.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

I am wondering if they can keep details of the investigation from Adams? Seems foolish to share things with him.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Inthedetails]

I am wondering if they can keep details of the investigation from Adams? Seems foolish to share things with him.

LE might not be sharing much with him, but Adams wants to swagger.

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

I am wondering if they can keep details of the investigation from Adams? Seems foolish to share things with him.

Hahahha it’s tough because the detectives report to higher ups, and the higher ups report to the mayor’s office.

I think he got the message after this gaffe. Hopefully.

 

[ElizaKate]

They've had that backpack for nearly a day now. It's been X-rayed and opened, yet they've not disclosed anything yet. I would have thought they'd at least make mention of whether the gun was retrieved or not.

They have.

Jacket was found inside. Gun not recovered.

‘The net is tightening’ on UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s suspected killer, NYC Mayor Adams says

Authorities are closing in on the suspect who assassinated UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan, Mayor Adams said Saturday.

nypost.com

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting latest: Suspect's backpack had Monopoly money: Sources

The manhunt for the suspect who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has now entered its fourth day as authorities learn more about his movements before the attack.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Arkay]

No doubt. Adams is a hugely unlikable and disliked man.

I have mixed emotions about him, but any mayor of NYC is going to hold a press conference regarding an enormously public crime in the heart of NYC.

A lot of how it comes across is due to the personality of whomever is our mayor at the time.

IMO

 

[Nikynoo]

It's worth keeping in mind that even in the UK, with our NHS, disputes arise between doctors/hospitals on the one hand and families/patients on the other, especially over issues of end of life care and matters of medical futility. Eg, the Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans cases.

Yes, but it’s not over money is it?