NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

[al66pine]

FBI's Offer of $50,000 Reward?

I think they do, and if not, they will. Someone knows who he is and will want the money.

@Stargazer90

Not exactly fine print, but reward is -
"for information leading to the ARREST and CONVICTION of the individual responsible for this crime." * (<---- my CAPS)

It may be some time before claimant(s) need to complete their bank deposit slips.

__________________________________
* From FBI's online poster:
"REWARD
"The FBI is offering a reward of up to $50,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the individual responsible for this crime.
"DETAILS
"The FBI's New York Field Office is assisting the New York City Police Department in seeking the public's assistance in identifying the unknown suspect responsible
for the shooting death of a 50-year-old male victim outside of 1335 Avenue of the Americas in Midtown Manhattan, New York City, New York, at approximately
6:40 a.m., on the morning of December 4, 2024.
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact the FBI's Toll-Free tipline at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324)...." yada yada

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/unknown-suspect---murder-investigation/@@download.pdf

 

[gemini614]

I’m a little sad for you now that your visit to the park and memories of Strawberry Fields are now kind of supplanted by this madness… I hope you had a happy sojourn in NYC

No supplanting by any means. The 9/11 memorial was more supplanting of somberness. I can't wait to go back soon!

 

[Elley Mae]

Jacket, no gun. Bloomberg article that will not let me link properly.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

A gray backpack retrieved in New York’s Central Park and matching the description of one carried by the suspected killer of health insurance executive Brian Thompson contained a jacket but not a gun, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
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[Friday Fan]

I highly doubt he was able to obtain a fake passport. I would, however, be very interested to know how convincing the fake NJ driver’s license was.

Fake IDs are probably a black market thing. Their use is very limited. Mainly used for buying alcohol under age etc. Maybe they were used for check fraud back in the day? (Remember check fraud?) I worked at the county hospital, where the most common pregnant jail inmate was 90 day check fraud. (80s and 90s)

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

there is zero reason to think that, though.
all evidence points to his job being very related.

He was separated since 2018. That right there could be someone's motive. The assassin seems to have intimate knowledge of BT and the moment he would be crossing that street alone without security. I'm keeping my options open. As always, I could be wrong.

JMO.

 

[krikken]

You know that's technically illegal in the US?

You should always be departing and re-entering the US on your US passport.

The concept of "departure on a passport" doesn't exist in the US. That's TSA, not CBP, that wants to see "real ID" as you go through security, and that can include non-travel-documents. And before that, the airline at checkin will want to be sure that you have a travel document, of course.

On the other hand, entering the US and showing a foreign passport to a CBP officer if you are a citizen is a big no-no. That is illegal.

 

[Elley Mae]

there is zero reason to think that, though.
all evidence points to his job being very related.

What a perfect time when the evidence points to something else.jmo

 

[MesquiteO21]

And how would he know BT would head to the Hilton side entrance? As I understand it, there are two entrances to the hotel, each about equal walking distance from BT's hotel. Just a lucky guess? Unlikely. Too much planning went into it for that.

I suppose he would just logically enter on the side that was closest to where he was coming from his hotel..? But still, yeah that information requires insider knowledge
Jmo

 

[Data Sleuth]

Yes the article said in the backpack along with other high end clothing. What was he wearing after he left Central Park?

He probably was dressed in layers, shedding his coat etc. would have allowed him/her to avoid detection. Also could have carried a wig, sunglasses and fake beard in his once bulky gray backpack.
Just like in many spy novels/ movies!

 

[justtrish]

It's been theorized on here that one of the reasons so few people have spoken to the press about the suspect, and why LE has gotten few if any credible leads, is because there is widespread sympathy for the shooter and his "cause" (assuming he was an ideologue). Case in point: earlier today in Manhattan's Washington Square Park there was an unofficial Shooter Lookalike Contest. Make of this what you will:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865462468954161214

I am really disappointed in society as a whole when I see things like this and read all over the internet on social media, message boards, etc. about how this is acceptable because of who this man was. If he committed a crime, he should have been charged and face those charges in court and if health care companies are denying claims, then we don't use them and/or we fix policies that allow this type of thing to happen. We go about things like a civilized society and not like this.

I am sure everyone that is ya'ing this murder and who claims they wouldn't turn the killer in if they knew who it was, would feel differently if it was their family member gunned down in cold blood like this.

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

Reportedly under federal investigation for insider trading.

IIRC, I think that I read that several executives sold stock before some kind of meeting or ruling. None has been charged. They are just being investigated, at this point, I think.

I know that my husband had stock options at one of his job. He chose to sell when the stock was high (or at a certain level). BT (as well as the others) apparently had a lot of stock that they sold at once. So, I definitely can see that the Fed's would at least investigate the timing.

JMO.

 

[Parsnip]

But why BT out of all the UHC executives? I don't think he is the only one involved in the legal problems. What is unique about him specifically? That is what will come into the motive - why BT out of all other healthcare, UHC, corporate executives.

He is a figurehead, not just for the company but also for the industry. Imo, he was targeted in that place (NYC) at that time (before the shareholder meeting) precisely to do exactly what he has done: bring attention to the corrupt practices of the health insurance industry. He put them all on notice: “you are not exempt.”

I DO NOT in any way condone vigilante violence. I would certainly not call it vigilante justice. Murder in cold blood is not ever justice. I am speculating as to the mind of the killer. All moo.

 

[kaen]

Sixth Avenue? (There's no W 6th in Manhattan.)

6th Ave= Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan.

 

[SlimPickens]

He was separated since 2018. That right there could be someone's motive. The assassin seems to have intimate knowledge of BT and the moment he would be crossing that street alone without security. I'm keeping my options open. As always, I could be wrong.

JMO.

Find my iPhone? Airtag? Does seem like someone knew exact movements. GPS even.

 

[eddie_van]

He is a figurehead, not just for the company but also for the industry. Imo, he was targeted in that place (NYC) at that time (before the shareholder meeting) precisely to do exactly what he has done: bring attention to the corrupt practices of the health insurance industry. He put them all on notice: “you are not exempt.”

I DO NOT in any way condone vigilante violence. I would certainly not call it vigilante justice. Murder in cold blood is not ever justice. I am speculating as to the mind of the killer. All moo.

I think you're right. it wouldn't send quite the same message if he just shot the guy outside his home one random day.

 

[Periwinkl3]

Maybe the gun belonged to someone who was somehow harmed by UHC policies.

 

[Jamara3]

It's been theorized on here that one of the reasons so few people have spoken to the press about the suspect, and why LE has gotten few if any credible leads, is because there is widespread sympathy for the shooter and his "cause" (assuming he was an ideologue). Case in point: earlier today in Manhattan's Washington Square Park there was an unofficial Shooter Lookalike Contest. Make of this what you will:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865462468954161214

The lookalike contest is imo a very in bad taste gen z meme. So much of a gen z joke that it comes with no explanation. I think the genesis of it is that there was a recent unofficial and off the books Timothée Chalamet lookalike contest organized in NYC. It garnered police presence, some people were even arrested. Chalamet himself even appeared. He also offered to pay for the trespassing tickets that people received.

Basically, the perp kind of looks like Chalamet to some. Chalamet has had a rep as kind of a hero, a guys guys but also soft and feminine, very appealing to ladies. The lore of this perp and the politics of terrible healthcare policy in the US align. All sides of the politics spectrum have grievances with US healthcare. As a joke, some of the same flyers that were used to organize the unofficial Chalamet contest appeared on light poles and then on social media. It’s just crude humor for TikTok, I don’t think there’s any politics to it whatsoever. IMO none of those kids would be harboring this perp.

 

[acutename]

I don’t comprehend how they still haven’t accessed the phone. It’s not rocket science. There’s very reliable tech that does this in minutes, i. e. Cellebrite.

Maybe he encrypted the *advertiser censored* out of it before disposing of the device? That’s the only plausible scenario, and would lend to him having no worries about the police getting the phone (except for the DNA).

MOO

could he have physically damaged it before dropping it?

 

[Deleted member 350315]

I wonder if it was more of an impromptu realization, and less of a contest. I'm sure if you walk around NYC right now nearly everyone looks similar, jacket, hood, Gator/scarf, bookbag... But at the same time it is NYC and they are delightfully crass.

Well, at the end of that brief video there's one masked, black-clad fellow wearing a bib that says "Deny Defend Depose," so at least some of the, ahem, "contestants" put some thought and planning into this.

 

[Periwinkl3]

6th Ave= Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan.

Correct, but most New Yorkers refer to it as Sixth Avenue.