NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #7 *Arrest*

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  • #501
Is LM exhibiting signs of mental illness?
Some reports seem to indicate police were called because he was ‘acting suspicious’ (rather than a ringer for the assassin-on-the-run).
Of course, outside of metro area, eating your McMuffin wearing a mask would be suspect.
 
  • #502
The first sign that something was amiss at UnitedHealth Group Inc.’s investor day was when Brian Thompson didn’t show up to his early morning hair and makeup appointment…

It took a few minutes for the 8 a.m. event to begin, after some 275 people showed up. It’s unclear why they didn’t start on time. But as Witty, the company’s CEO, began his opening remarks, a handful of executives were alerted of a security emergency. They stepped away from the event. They were told Thompson had been killed outside of the hotel that morning.

As the investor day presentations continued, the small group of company executives in the know were questioned by police. The executives immediately started trying to reach Thompson’s family. They wanted to tell his wife and kids before the media got a hold of the story.

Around 9 a.m., Witty cut the investor day short. “Some of you may know we’re dealing with a very serious medical situation with one of our team members,” he said. “And as a result, I’m afraid we’re going to have to bring to a close the event today, which I apologize for.” Thompson had been dead for two hours...


 
  • #503
His undoing was Starbucks and McDonald’s!
That and letting his hormones dictate that he remove his mask at the hostel.
 
  • #504
I do wonder about mental illness. (Not saying he has an insanity defense). JMO.
He is of the age when some mental illnesses manifest.
 
  • #505
Mangione was valedictorian of the Class of 2016 at the Gilman School, and he earned undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of Pennsylvania. His family owns Turf Valley and Hayfields Country Club, as well as a Maryland radio station.


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It shows with our employees and our "Care forward," innovative approach to caring for our residents. As a family-owned business for over 40 years, we see our team members as an extension of family. We invite everyone who joins Lorien to share the values set forth by our Founder, Nicholas Mangione, Sr. We encourage each other to work hard and aim to set our teams up for success. Then, when we do, we're the first to praise, reward and acknowledge achievements.

 
  • #506
The elderly McDonalds diner plus the server who called the police deserve reward money but I hope the receptionist at the hostel gets a share, without her actions he will never have seen arrested
 
  • #507
Good background stuff, I don’t think this kid lacked for anything. Interesting that the family owned nursing homes as part of their extensive portfolio.

And if you spend any time researching the nursing home business, you might have other questions.
 
  • #508
I wonder for how long he had been planning the murder and what date the website notification went out on the UHC Investor Meeting.
 
  • #509
I know all the evidence is pointing to him but... those pictures from the taxi and hostel just don't look that much like him to me. In his online photos he's well built, in the photos police released the person is very slim.

Does he have a slim brother or cousin lol?

One thing to consider is how recent are any of the photos that are on his social media? For example, his FB photos stop at 2019. No way of knowing how recent the Twitter/X header photos are but the shirtless one is very similar to the FB 2019 ones from other hiking trips.

Nothing like a spinal injury and subsequent surgery/pain/inability to exercise to the same level to cause you to lose a muscular physique and a lot of weight. My young adult son had to have 3 vertebra fused mid back after an accident, and his body shape/weight/"fitness" hasn't been the same since.
 
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Officers and media head to Altoona, Pennsylvania

Jessica Parker
Reporting from Pennsylvania


As I write, we’re about 45 minutes drive away from Altoona, Pennsylvania. Following the news that a suspect in the shooting of Brian Thompson had been arrested in the city, we set off from our office in Washington DC.

The team – myself, a producer and a cameraman – will head to the places that are of interest to this investigation to try and discover more about today’s events. That will include the McDonald's where Luigi Mangione was arrested and the police station where he’s being questioned.

It’s not clear how long Mangione will be detained in Pennsylvania before potentially being taken to New York where the shooting happened last week. We know that officers from the NYPD have headed to Altoona – as will much of US media following the huge interest in this story.

 
  • #511
who is in the last picture with the man and the child? doesn't look the other pictures
I hope this isn’t offensive to anyone, I mean this sincerely. Seems like he may have been a chubby kid in his youth, in a family of achievers and classmates from similar backgrounds. To me that can explain some of his psyche as he matured. Obsessed with perfection—valedictorian etc., clearly his physique.

Armchair analysis, it seems like he was driven to insanity a bit. Highly intelligent, maybe a chip on his shoulder from his youth. Then the injury. Immediate post college for these highly educated guys is also really tough—I saw it happen to my older brother who has an undergrad and PhD from Ivy League schools. The safety net of high academia and lofty ideals to the real working world with all different types of people is a huge adjustment for them..

Some of his twitter shows that he started experimented with psychedelics when dealing with the back pain. I would guess that was the final breaking point to send him one way over the edge.
 
  • #512
Chronic pain is unbearable. I think very few people understand this. I have no idea if it pertains to this guy at all; however, what you say is so true.

Chronic pain is incredibly depressing and changes one's personality.

I have multiple chronic illnesses and am in pain daily. It has changed me and my entire life. You're 100% correct on that IME!
 
  • #513
Wow. So sorry about your son. I hope the screws in the back are working out well for him. Back issues are terrible - the back affects every move you make.

Kudos to you for getting the surgery approved. So many people who are sick, elderly, tired and in chronic pain have no one to advocate for them. To spend hours working through the hoops, the paperwork, the endless, circuitous phone trees, always bumping you from one department to another, then putting you on hold for hours.....

If I know what Tricia means when she talks about her "head exploding" regarding these threads, it's because I've dealt with insurance companies!
OMG I might have some PTSD from that entire month leading up to it because this literally is spot on what I dealt with. And as it turns out it was an admin error on our insurances part. They said they didn’t have something that was needed but I know my doctor sent it over etc. just so crazy. He’s 15! We’ve been dealing with this back injury for two years with lottttts of PT and Rest and images etc. He needed the surgery.
Having said all of that we are almost 4 months surgery and he’s doing amazing! Almost back to playing sports and very active (with guidance). It’s truly amazing and I feel terrible for people who have to fight so hard.
 
  • #514
Disabilities can still exist, even if they are invisible to the everyday human. Assuming he was healthy isn't a great path here, and dare I say it's irrelevant.

Agreed. This is the garbage disability private investigators use to deny people disability --- like so-and-so was seen walking a dog and I have a picture! And it's like sure, but maybe they were in bed the other 23 1/2 hours that day and in unbearable pain? Assuming about disabilities and health is not a great path to go down, I agree!
 
  • #515
He actually looks a lot like the person whose ID he apparently stole.

IMO
It is very likely his photo, but with a fake name.
 
  • #516
He does resemble him. But, he also (to me) looks like he could be brothers with Brian Kohberger.
Not even close.
 
  • #517
Listen, this is the question that keeps on pinging around my brain, too.
How did the perp know to be there at the time that BT was strolling through on his way across the street to the conference?
How did the perp know and knew with enough luck certainty to beat BT to his intended destination by 5 minutes or more?
Could LM's computer skills have helped him enough to hack into BT's travel itinerary or his laptop or cellphone?
JMO.
I’m there with you. I know we’ve all speculated here every 10,000 scenarios, but I am still thinking about the Feb. 2024 cyberhack! Given his background, it could be very plausible that he was working with some hacking groups. Seems like he disappeared for the past year, per someone on his twitter mentioning that family was worried about him. What was he up to this past year?
 
  • #518
FYI: "“Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness,’’ Kaczynski wrote at one point in a quote liked by Mangione.


“Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual’s internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.’’


The manifesto said the suspect acted alone, sources said."

The article states that his grandfather and grandmother had passed away separately but within the last several years and LM had also worked in a nursing home.
Bbm.
Thanks for the link.

I was curious about whether the perp acted alone ?
Of course this is LM's "manifesto", but I tend to think this was a lone act.
Whatever his injustices were, I really don't want to hear it.
He had opportunities that not all of us are afforded.
How about appreciate what you have, and do good with your life.
Omo.
 
  • #519
He actually looks a lot like the person whose ID he apparently stole.

IMO
Pretty sure that is him. With his AI knowledge and 3D printer capabilities (probably), this guy knows how to create stuff. If he can make a whole gun, he can make his own fake IDs with his own pic.

As always, JMO.
 
  • #520
Wow. Trying to catch up but what was the situation with his back issues? Just asking because my son recently had back surgery to repair his L5 (pars were broken on both sides due to sports) and my insurance company was giving us he11 about doing the surgery but I was my Kids biggest advocate and finally got it approved 18 hours before his surgery. He also had to have screws etc. So I was just curious.
This is one of the interesting differences between the US and the rest of the world. Surgery for Spondylolysis (Pars fracture) and -listhesis (the slipped vertebra) is done quite infrequently in the UK for example, unless there is direct pressure on a nerve root. This pressure usually only develops late in life. Back surgery is performed roughly 30 times more frequently in the US than anywhere else - and it is because there is private health insurance.
 
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