NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #7 *Arrest*

[TTF14]

Not even close.

Really? Curly hair, bushy eyebrows, big toothy smile? You don't see it? Just me? OK.

 

[Betty P]

Yes, but obviously this wasn't about him obtaining insurance. If he had any negative personal experience with medical insurers, or someone he loved did, it was simply a trigger. From reading everything about him, he was interested in MUCH larger issues than himself.

He may have been a rich kid. He may have been spoiled. But he was obviously, also, a thinker. He struggled to deal with what he saw as the many ills in society. Ultimately, he came up with an awful plan, that ended up a tragedy for Brian Thompson and his family; for himself and his own family; and for the many, many people there likely are who loved all of these people.

MOO.

It's also important to point out that increasingly, people of all incomes are harmed by callous, profit-driven denial of claims. Having to suddenly pay out of pocket for lifelong treatment of a serious chronic health problem is a huge burden for anyone earning less than a billionaire.

Modern cancer treatments can cost $10,000 to $20,000 per MONTH. People are routinely put in the position of choosing to either die or live with chronic pain or severe disability or pay for treatment out of pocket and go bankrupt.

Medical bankruptcy is a serious problem in the US, but no one wants to discuss it.

Medical Bankruptcy: Still Common Despite the Affordable Care Act - PMC

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[arielilane]

Luigi Mangione's cousin is Maryland Republican lawmaker

Maryland State Delegate Antonio 'Nino' Mangione, 37, is the cousin of 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, who was arrested Monday at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania in connection with the crime.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'How does anybody who is related to this person not say, I know that guy, and call the police?' the veteran federal investigator added.

 

[fridaybaker]

I have multiple chronic illnesses and am in pain daily. It has changed me and my entire life. You're 100% correct on that IME!

My heart goes out to you, honestground. I have some experience with it, but have long bouts of being relatively pain-free. However, I know what I've experienced is a tiny slice of what some people go through, and I can't imagine it. I just can't. I saw my mother go through it, who became a shell of herself and, sadly, quite embittered.

 

[BOBON]

That and letting his hormones dictate that he remove his mask at the hostel.

Wasn't the mask removal because they needed to check his id?

 

[TTF14]

Luigi Mangione's cousin is Maryland Republican lawmaker

Maryland State Delegate Antonio 'Nino' Mangione, 37, is the cousin of 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, who was arrested Monday at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania in connection with the crime.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I think taxi photo with the mask on look like THIS guy!

 

[al66pine]

Reward?

TY. So, that person is in for a $60k payday! Kudos to this person....

snipped for focus @Synergizer Bunny
It may be some time before any claimant needs to complete bank deposit slip for the FBI reward.

Not exactly fine print, but FBI's offer of $50,000 is -
"for information leading to the ARREST and CONVICTION of the individual responsible for this crime." * (<---- my CAPS)

I did not look for language or terms of the NYC-PD or other awards.
__________________________________
* From FBI's online poster:
"REWARD
"The FBI is offering a reward of up to $50,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the individual responsible for this crime.
"DETAILS
"The FBI's New York Field Office is assisting the New York City Police Department in seeking the public's assistance in identifying the unknown suspect...
"If you have any information concerning this case, please contact the FBI's Toll-Free tipline at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324)...." yada yada

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/unknown-suspect---murder-investigation/@@download.pdf

 

[LaborDayRN]

I hope this isn’t offensive to anyone, I mean this sincerely. Seems like he may have been a chubby kid in his youth, in a family of achievers and classmates from similar backgrounds. To me that can explain some of his psyche as he matured. Obsessed with perfection—valedictorian etc., clearly his physique.

Armchair analysis, it seems like he was driven to insanity a bit. Highly intelligent, maybe a chip on his shoulder from his youth. Then the injury. Immediate post college for these highly educated guys is also really tough—I saw it happen to my older brother who has an undergrad and PhD from Ivy League schools. The safety net of high academia and lofty ideals to the real working world with all different types of people is a huge adjustment for them..

Some of his twitter shows that he started experimented with psychedelics when dealing with the back pain. I would guess that was the final breaking point to send him one way over the edge.

I'm not on Twitter (X) but that would line up with my facebook find of the xray of a spine with pins. Not that it is in anyway an excuse for what he did.
I'm sure many of us have had to "jump through hoops" at times when dealing with our medical care and it has not come to this. (shooting someone).

 

[Chimera]

The first sign that something was amiss at UnitedHealth Group Inc.’s investor day was when Brian Thompson didn’t show up to his early morning hair and makeup appointment…

It took a few minutes for the 8 a.m. event to begin, after some 275 people showed up. It’s unclear why they didn’t start on time. But as Witty, the company’s CEO, began his opening remarks, a handful of executives were alerted of a security emergency. They stepped away from the event. They were told Thompson had been killed outside of the hotel that morning.

As the investor day presentations continued, the small group of company executives in the know were questioned by police. The executives immediately started trying to reach Thompson’s family. They wanted to tell his wife and kids before the media got a hold of the story.

Around 9 a.m., Witty cut the investor day short. “Some of you may know we’re dealing with a very serious medical situation with one of our team members,” he said. “And as a result, I’m afraid we’re going to have to bring to a close the event today, which I apologize for.” Thompson had been dead for two hours...

CEO Killing and Rage Over Insurance Plunges UnitedHealth Into Crisis

After dayslong manhunt, police find suspect eating in a McDonald’s while carrying a manifesto decrying the health-care industry’s emphasis on profits

www.bloomberg.com

From your link :
"...Police find suspect eating in a McDonald's...".

Nabbed whilst in the restaurant.
So he wasn't on the bus, further eluding the authorities, thankfully.
Omo.

 

[Jsizzle]

This is one of the interesting differences between the US and the rest of the world. Surgery for Spondylolysis (Pars fracture) and -listhesis (the slipped vertebra) is done quite infrequently in the UK for example, unless there is direct pressure on a nerve root. This pressure usually only develops late in life. Back surgery is performed roughly 30 times more frequently in the US than anywhere else - and it is because there is private health insurance.

My son was having shooting pains from his butt to his calf that would take him out/down like he was paralyzed. He couldn’t run without this happening. It was def a warranted surgery and he’s so much better already!

 

[CityKid]

Yeah, it must have been that taxi photo that sealed the deal.

Maybe it's just because I live in NYC, but someone who looks like LM wouldn't stand out at all.

Same. My bf's comment on him was "he dresses like everyone here and his face is pretty standard."

 

[Chimera]

@LaborDayRN :
Agreed, no excuse.
Hope he gets the book thrown at him, if he's convicted.
A man was murdered in cold blood who was no threat to LM.
Omo.

 

[Arkay]

I have 30+ pages to catch up on, so I know I’m writing something that others must have written already. Apologies in advance.

He’s not at all what I presumed. Except for the part about him clearly being intelligent.

I’m content to be wrong about anything, as the only vital factor here is that he has been caught.

Such courage from the McDonald’s employee for not only calling 911, but sticking around at her job while awaiting the Altoona police, despite the potential murderer on the premises.

So his family is prominent and financially well-off, and he is an anti-capitalist who took his views as far as they could go.

Like everyone else feels, it’s such a cognitively dissonant outcome as to who committed this murder.

I see the intelligence of this former valedictorian in his elaborate planning, both to commit the crime and to navigate his way out of here without being caught within the city.

But at the end, I see someone who should be wearing a dunce cap. He kept all that incriminating evidence on his person.

Good looks, money, intelligence, lots of friends. Two lives wasted and two families changed forever.

I do have feelings about why his family and friends who must have recognized him did not inform the police. I understand but still…

JMO

 

[Tamagal]

I'm actually quite astounded that someone recognized him from the photos. Maybe I'm bad with faces, but if I saw LM "in the wild," I can't say I'd be so sure it was the shooter that I would call the police.

Especially outside the immediate area he was last spotted in. Kudos to the McDonald’s employee! Sure hope she receives the $60k reward!!!

 

[Fabled Automatic]

I don't think he wanted to get caught: I think his arrogance did him in. After escaping New York rather easily, he thought he was home free- Arrogance does quite a few killers in.

I'm generalizing here, but after seeing his shirtless pic, I'd say the guy likely isn't a McDonald's consumer. I'm guessing he wanted to be caught today.

After all, are we all discussing him, or his victim's funeral right now?

 

[ChrisM]

Especially outside the immediate area he was last spotted in. Kudos to the McDonald’s employee! Sure hope she receives the $60k reward!!!

absolutely!!

 

[EBW321]

Did they even have it? Did the hostel take a pic of it?

Wow. I did not even think about that.

Yeah if they had the license photo and the name from the fake id used at the hostel, I’m very curious as to why they didn’t release the fake id photo or the name he was traveling under at the same time they released the image of him smiling to the receptionist when he checked in.

I would have assumed hostel kept a photo copy on file and they definitely had the fake name on file.

Really Wonder why LE never released it. Unless hostel lost copy of ID or never made a copy.

 

[warp3dwing]

Same. My bf's comment on him was "he dresses like everyone here and his face is pretty standard."

For real. I could probably swing a dead cat outside and hit 5 LM lookalikes.

 

[DizzyB]

Perp walk coming up.

 

[stonedale]

It's fascinating to think that these two, potentially, had opportunity to theoretically work together on AI projects.

At time of killer's HS graduation, he planned to seek a degree in AI, focused on computer science and cognitive science at the U of Pennsylvania. (He later went on to get a masters in computer engineering). Exclusive | Suspect in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson ID’d as Luigi Mangione, an ex-Ivy League student

And the murdered CEO had just announced that United had begun using AI in claim denials.

MURDERED INSURANCE CEO HAD DEPLOYED AI TO AUTOMATICALLY DENY BENEFITS FOR SICK PEOPLE. Murdered Insurance CEO Had Deployed an AI to Automatically Deny Benefits for Sick People

From what I have learned about this suspect so far, I really think this was a big part of his motive. He studied human behavior and AI to a extensive level. I think that he hated the way UHC has been leveraging AI for claims approvals and took out the CEO to send a message (I've heard the algorithm was denying a crazy percentage of claims, crawling policies for any possible loophole)

This is an incredibly brilliant individual also born into a really wealthy family, its just absolutely mind boggling everything we know so far.