NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #7 *Arrest*

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  • #741
I shudder to think about how many love letters are going to come pouring in for Luigi Mangione.

I’m not talking about those who support his action; I mean the kind of women who fall in love with murderers and correspond with them, try to meet them and sometimes marry them in prison.

We see this all the time and here’s a young, intelligent, wealthy and good-looking man.

Ugh.

JMO
BBM - Yes, the Mrs. Menendez's of the world.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...re-ceo-shooting-investigation-brian-thompson/
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  • #744
Assuming he doesn’t plead guilty, I wouldn’t be surprised if he (or his legal team) tries to use mental illness stemming from chronic pain as a defense or as a mitigating factor at sentencing. MOO.
I am sure they will try something like this.

I am having a hard time finding any leeway to give to this guy. He did this so it would hit the news. He chose that location knowing it would get coverage. The planning involved in this is just extensive.. likely months. He kept himself covered for 10 days including when eating so he wouldn't be seen. It's all just too much and if he wanted this much attention, well he has it. MANY people have chronic pain and they don't kill others. Many people have lived most their life with pain and they haven't resorted to this type of thing. I don't have the answer for solving the healthcare problems, but I know THIS isn't it. He needs a harsh sentence because the crime he committed was just about as awful as it gets.
 
  • #745
Assuming he doesn’t plead guilty, I wouldn’t be surprised if he (or his legal team) tries to use mental illness stemming from chronic pain as a defense or as a mitigating factor at sentencing. MOO.
I think that's about 99.9% probable.
 
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Respectfully disagree. Looks sad to me. Like what have I done? JMO
I think he looks off-kilter or unhinged, which very well could be the case. I think they will go for mental-health defense. Not sure it will work, but that's what I think the tactic will be.

jmopinion
 
  • #748
I shudder to think about how many love letters are going to come pouring in for Luigi Mangione.

I’m not talking about those who support his action; I mean the kind of women who fall in love with murderers and correspond with them, try to meet them and sometimes marry them in prison.

We see this all the time and here’s a young, intelligent, wealthy and good-looking man.

Ugh.

JMO
OMG - I was thinking the same exact thing. Since SO many women from all over the world are swooning over that weird Wade Wilson I can only imagine once they get a look at this guy! It's quite sad.
 
  • #749
I hope that everyone keeps an open mind, as these things aren't as simple when companies start to monopolize markets.

A CEO who takes this position and does an excellent job, will be doing so by reducing as many costs as possible, to increase their profit. It is true that a company can deny claims to sick or dying people, exploiting paperwork and processes that delay approvals, as long as they are following the law. You can argue that ethically, the CEO should ensure that as many claims are denied as possible, as the law allows this, and it is just their job to represent the company's financial interests.

It is the people's job to change these practices by passing laws that restrict companies' ability to do things like this. But when rich individuals and companies gain more control of the government, that becomes more difficult. I think the CEO does hold some blame for the harm caused to Americans, but any person who holds that position is beholden to the will of the company.
It is not the people’s job to murder those executives.
 
  • #750
Looks like everything fell apart for him in 2023, last year. The injury, detaching from friends, not working at TrueCar anymore, self isolating, family trying to get in touch > depression, pent up anger and internalized rage, and likely loss self worth leading to all this.
I wondered what the catalyst would have been to lead him to this path.
 
  • #751
I think he looks off-kilter or unhinged, which very well could be the case. I think they will go for mental-health defense. Not sure it will work, but that's what I think the tactic will be.

jmopinion
I think he looks angry and smug.
But then again, when the pics first came out, I wondered if it was a woman. LOL
 
  • #752
Very interesting! If you have a link, please share. He might be facing federal charges.

jmo
IANAL, but the statute which gives the federal government jurisdiction over murders committed when the killer crosses state boundaries specifies there must be an aspect of financial consideration, which there does not appear to be in the case.

18 U.S. Code § 1958
(a)
Whoever travels in or causes another (including the intended victim) to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or uses or causes another (including the intended victim) to use the mail or any facility of interstate or foreign commerce, with intent that a murder be committed in violation of the laws of any State or the United States as consideration for the receipt of, or as consideration for a promise or agreement to pay, anything of pecuniary value, or who conspires to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than ten years, or both; and if personal injury results, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than twenty years, or both; and if death results, shall be punished by death or life imprisonment, or shall be fined not more than $250,000, or both.
 
  • #753
I don't think his belief was that he would evade the authorities forever. I think he knew that he'd eventually get caught, and was waiting for it. I'm sure he thought he had mentally prepared himself for prison, even before he committed murder. Of course, one can never truly be prepared for the reality of prison life. Especially somebody like him. He's in for one hell of a rude awakening, that's for sure.
 
  • #754
No more micky D’s for him.
 
  • #755

MassGuy: "This was my prediction a couple days ago:

So I think he's mid 20's, Middle eastern or Mediterranean heritage, lives somewhere on the east coast (Atlanta or points north).

Grudge with this specific company. Imagines himself as some sort of movie antihero assassin (silenced weapon, Monopoly money, rounds with words written on them). Into fashion. Meticulous with his appearance. Disciplined. Intelligent.

I don't think his beef was with this particular victim, rather, I think it's with what he symbolized. I say that because if he did have it out for this guy, he'd just hit him in his home state. It would be much easier, and much less risky.

This is an ego thing for him, which is why he chose committing this crime in that place, and in that way. He wanted it to be caught on camera. It's practical as well, as what better way to get his message across?

I think he's graduated college, perhaps currently in some postgrad program. He has access to money, as his clothing, backpack, and the trip itself were quite expensive."


Reference back to @MassGuy . Unbelievable profiling on this guy. Hope you will accept my apologies in advance. I'm sorry for doubting you! ;)

JMO.
Yup! Also, his statements that the authorities were much farther along and had many more leads than they were stating.
 
  • #756
It might seem pedantic but it's an important point; healthcare is not "free" here, it annoys me when people say that it is.

We pay for it but not at the point of use. The payment is in the form of a higher tax burden. It's actually really expensive!
Thank you so much for clarifying that. I'm assuming the doctors don't work for free either. Very little in life is free even though some people think so.
 
  • #757
I wonder whether he will be put on suicide watch.
I never considered he'd kill himself when found, but now after seeing those pictures I don't think he's the cocky self assured hero figure person I expected.
I think they may also do a psychiatric evaluation.
 
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Has anyone found a link or report to confirm he has an injury? I felt he moved around darn well IMO
 
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