GUILTY OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #65

[JayWill]

Angela instigating? Yes for sure.

I think it's underestimated how much of a green light Angie gave to these homicides.

According to Canepa today, Angie was hacked into and spying on Hanna's and Patricia's (George's ex MIL) Facebook private messages.

She took many screen shots and showed Jake the screenshot of the pivotal conversation where Hanna told Patricia she would never sign anything, they would have to kill her first.

It was only 4 months later that Hanna was shot. 11 shots in her home alone, between her and her mom and little brother.

Angie used this Facebook message to confront Jake, like "what are you going to do about it?" I believe she pushed him hard to get custody - for her!

Angie was so close to Jake she controlled him and could have kept him from shooting anyone.

She was an extremely controlling mother with him who kept him isolated with home schooling, encouraged him to always live with her even when having his own family, shared bank accounts with him meaning he was supporting her financially, had the family voting on his personal matters, and so forth.

Thus, she was the linchpin in his life the most important person with the most influence. She could have showed him that Facebook message and told him she would help to work things out between he and Hanna.

She could have invited Chris and Dana over for a meal or coffee, made the peace etc...

But nope, she set the whole family on the course she wanted. She wanted a certain life and nobody would stand in her way, not even her own mother who she almost took to prison with her.

Rhoden Family Member:
"I see a woman with no sympathy, no remorse," she said, commenting on the sentence. "She's getting 30 years more than what our family gets,"

...2 Cents...
Information comes from Other Acts Evidence and Scheiderer's testimony at George's Bondo Hearing.

But how does a woman become so malicious to other women? Is it because she had to settle for George whatever number and was jealous of young women who had a choice?

 

[Cool Cats]

But how does a woman become so malicious to other women? Is it because she had to settle for George whatever number and was jealous of young women who had a choice?

George "Billy" isn't <modsnip> stuck by her all these years.

But it wasn't about her husband it was about her grandchildren and having total overwhelming control over them and their mothers.

Read the Other Acts Evidence I would recommend. It is all about Angie trying hard to have complete control over the other women - just like she controlled her 2 sons.

My way or the highway sums up Angie but Angie would run you over on the highway. She is a very extreme person and has no empathy. Psychopath I believe.

Couldn't look at the court gallery. Not once. No remorse towards what she took from those families. Non-expression on her face. Cold as ice. No "I'm sorry" from her.

Angela Wagner's non-expression in front of the families as she gets ready to plead guilty to aiding 8 murders, Counts 9 through 22. She never even glances towards the court gallery.

Rhoden family murders update: Angela Wagner pleads guilty in Pike County court

 

[joe jones]

What I heard listening to AC's summary was just that - she gave a lengthy summary of the crimes committed by the Wagners against the Rhodens. It was a description of evrything they did that the 22 counts were based on.

Later, though, AC addressed Angela Wagner specifically. She said (paraphrasing) "we know that you did help plan the murders and helped buy supplies. When JW, Billy and GW4 left your home that night, you knew exactly where they were going and what they were going to do. When they came home later they talked to you about what they did. Afterwards you helped them cover up, hide evidence and lied about what happened,etc."

Im pretty sure that's what was said. They said she still could have been convicted of murder, but they made a deal with her.

Listen to AC'S statement again and let us know what you think.

I too don't think AW was at crime scene, I think all her charges are related to the criminal enterprise and conspiracy between the 4. The elements of the charges were different to the state reading into record what they accept AW did, so I think she stayed at homw with the children and the 3 others went off to do her bidding.

 

[Ann99]

IMO I think Angela may have took a few shots at the victims after they were already deceased. The Wag’s thought they were a mob so you never know

I think you are absolutely correct on this. I believe they all participated in the shooting, even if just as a symbol of their "family togetherness" in this evil .

 

[LMDlong]

What does that mean? Her deal is off? I have never heard of a prison sentence being changed because of a rule infraction.

Didn't clean your cell, didn't make count, had food in your room, your roommate hid contraband in your room so you get sent to segregation unfairly, you were in an unauthorized area, you held hands with/hugged another inmate etc....

The rules are endless.....No one could do 30 years with no kites - write ups.

IMO I think Deering meant from yesterday to the time of her sentencing.

 

[Ann99]

There could be death threats we don't even know about.

This is Jake leaving court after his guilty plea, no noticeable BPV's. The security with Jake looks almost casual compared with Angela's security.

Compare Angie and Jake leaving court after their guilty pleas, very different between them.

View attachment 312137

• Rhoden family murders update: Angela Wagner pleads guilty in Pike County court
• Jake Wagner pleads guilty in killings of his ex and 7 of her family members - CBS News

I hope is wasn't something i said. jk.
Cant be.
I've complained about the sound quality of the hearings for the last year and no improvement.

 

[Ann99]

Not an original statement. Saw this somewhere yesterday.
Too good to not share.

Angela does not have custody, Angela is in custody.

 

[ohioexpat63]

I don't like the sentence. But, I don't know the reasoning either. Perhaps she gave details to close other crimes committed. Maybe there were other murders and they felt invincible. Who knows at this point!

Maybe the additional security is protocol while transporting a murderer in that particular county.

If GW 4 is offered 30 years he will take the plea. JMO

 

[LMDlong]

I noticed something yesterday about Angela’s body language. I just rewatched it. At around 49:43 to 58:49 her nose had began to turn pink and then got brighter. Earlier in the hearing she removed her glasses and a red indentation from her glasses was noticeable, but her nose was normal color. At 58:49 Junk speaks and there is a quick view of a quiver above her upper lip and her chin.

 

[Tiff23fr]

I noticed something yesterday about Angela’s body language. I just rewatched it. At around 49:43 to 58:49 her nose had began to turn pink and then got brighter. Earlier in the hearing she removed her glasses and a red indentation from her glasses was noticeable, but her nose was normal color. At 58:49 Junk speaks and there is a quick view of a quiver above her upper lip and her chin.

I noticed some of these things as well. I feel it was her mind and body’s reaction to her fate becoming very real. IMO talking about it with her Attorneys is one thing. In the court room, admitting it in front the family and judge is where it becomes real. People who do bad things, and may be considered down right evil, are still human and will still experience emotion.

 

[Betty P]

So.... from what I have gathered - she WAS sentenced yesterday - correct?

TIA!

Her sentence was announced in her plea agreement yesterday. It will become official when she testifies against the other defendants and meets other provisions of the agreement.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Will Angela Wagner be eligible for parole in that 30 years sentence????

 

[LMDlong]

I noticed some of these things as well. I feel it was her mind and body’s reaction to her fate becoming very real. IMO talking about it with her Attorneys is one thing. In the court room, admitting it in front the family and judge is where it becomes real. People who do bad things, and may be considered down right evil, are still human and will still experience emotion.

Glad someone else noticed it. A prisoners body language is like sign language. I’ve read articles about it. Judges and attorneys know signs. It’s very interesting to read up on.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Will Angela Wagner be eligible for parole in that 30 years sentence????

…..an agreed-upon total sentence of 30 years with no chance for parole or early release before that.

Angela Wagner pleads guilty to several charges in Pike Co. massacre case, but not murder

 

[Betty P]

George "Billy" isn't <modsnip> stuck by her all these years.

But it wasn't about her husband it was about her grandchildren and having total overwhelming control over them and their mothers.

Read the Other Acts Evidence I would recommend. It is all about Angie trying hard to have complete control over the other women - just like she controlled her 2 sons.

My way or the highway sums up Angie but Angie would run you over on the highway. She is a very extreme person and has no empathy. Psychopath I believe.

Couldn't look at the court gallery. Not once. No remorse towards what she took from those families. Non-expression on her face. Cold as ice. No "I'm sorry" from her.

Angela Wagner's non-expression in front of the families as she gets ready to plead guilty to aiding 8 murders, Counts 9 through 22. She never even glances towards the court gallery.

Rhoden family murders update: Angela Wagner pleads guilty in Pike County court

Agree, it was all about control for her. She not only wanted to control her grandchildren, she wanted their mothers completely removed from them, by any means necessary. I also feel she has no remorse for the deaths of 8 innocent people. If she could do it again without getting caught, she would. She probably sees herself as the victim.

Watching her yesterday, I sensed a lot of anger and stubborn hostility. We know her attitude about the murders from her conversations with her mother while she was still in jail. She had no remorse or pity or regret. She was coldly manipulating people in order to subvert the system and get out of jail. JMO, her POV hasn't changed, nor will it in the future.

 

[Ann99]

I don't like the sentence. But, I don't know the reasoning either. Perhaps she gave details to close other crimes committed. Maybe there were other murders and they felt invincible. Who knows at this point!

Maybe the additional security is protocol while transporting a murderer in that particular county.

If GW 4 is offered 30 years he will take the plea. JMO

MO
Angela could give AC lots of details about many crimes.
Pike County and South East OH is a hot bed of crime, major and minor.
Probably has knowledge of crime beyond that general location.
Hopefully tons of info about a certain person she did not get along with...

 

[Ann99]

Glad someone else noticed it. A prisoners body language is like sign language. I’ve read articles about it. Judges and attorneys know signs. It’s very interesting to read up on.

Anyone think Angela knows the world is watching and that she is seriously disliked?

 

[LMDlong]

They gave the proffer to G4 attorney today so not sure we gonna see much Monday or get much information at all. Wonder if they will even have it.

Imo G4 attorneys will ask for more time to go over the information gave to him yesterday like he did after JW’s plea deal.

 

[LMDlong]

Yes she gets them back.

09/10/2021
ORDER RESTORING PRIVILEDGES--THIS ORDER MODIFIES THE SEPTEMBER 16, 2019 ORDER THAT REVOKED THE DEFENDANT'S TELEPHONE AND MAIL PRIVILEGES WITH EXCEPTIONS FOR HER ATTORNEYS, INVESTIGATORS AND MITIGATION EXPERTS.

THE DELEWARE COUNTY JAIL IS ORDERED TO RESTORE DEFENDANT'S TELEPHONE AND MAIL PRIVILEGES. DEFENDANT CONTINUES TO BE SUBJECT TO THE COURT'S ORIGINAL ORDER PROHIBITING ANY CONTACT WITH CO-DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE.

I wonder who she will call first.

 

[Berrybell]

At AWs age 30 years without early release vs LWOP is not much different. Jake took the DP off the table for all.of them. Why did she feel the need to confess to other crimes and one-up Jake? Why did she want to seal the a conviction for her husband nd other son. She is vindictive and has a motive for taking a plea. I agree with Betty, AW has no remorse.