GUILTY PA - Christina Regusters for kidnap, rape of 5yo girl, Philadelphia, 14 Jan 2013 - #2

[CHERIE.T]

It is practiced by SOME Muslims. But it is not solely a Muslim practice. Not all Muslims do it. Not all circumcised women are Muslim. Yes, some imams advocate it.

The Maasai stopped practicing it last year. Ethiopian Jews practice it.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/maasai-women-end-traditional-female-circumcision-299742.html

"Female circumcision is currently practiced in at least 28 countries stretching across the center of Africa north of the equator; it is not found in southern Africa or in the Arabic-speaking nations of North Africa, with the exception of Egypt.6 Female circumcision occurs among Muslims, Christians, animists and one Jewish sect, although no religion requires it.*"

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/2313097.html

IT IS BABARIC, I don't care whose religion custom it is. :furious:

 

[amberdawn723]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8731559#post8731559
After reading the theories about FGM, I just wanted to point this post out. I paraphrased the live presser given on January 16th at 1pm and Captain Darby said that the male suspect was restraining the child and "enjoying this victim". I remember that line specifically because it gave me chills and I put quotations around that phrase because it was verbatim. I can't find a link to that press conference though....I'd like to rewatch it. The video of the press conference originally posted by The Cheese on page 23 of that thread goes to a different press conference now (it goes to the one I link next which was actually from Jan 15th not the 16th).

Also here's a presser from Jan 15th in which Captain Darby says there were no overt signs of injury. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8955189

These clues make me believe she was more likely a victim of sexual assault, rape. :cry:

 

[bessie]

I don't think our hero knew if she was bleeding or not. She had on a dark or black colored t-shirt and it was wet. He wouldn't know until he let her go and saw his clothes possibly & I don't think he put her down until police or medics arrived. gah that's hard to write.

True, and I remember reading that he took off his jacket or coat, and wrapped it around her. I'll look for the link.

 

[CHERIE.T]

This case is quite disturbing:furious:.The thought that those responsible are still lurking about is very troublesome. If not guided by concience, maybe greed will prompt someone to come forth and help solve this case.

How does one walk several blocks in broad daylight, cloaked in Muslim garb, carrying a big ole' umbrella and not a single sole recalls seeing them??? How do neighbors not notice occupants of a home even remotely fitting the suspects description??? With the stakes being so high, these next few days should be very telling:what:

I wonder if the kidnapper who took the child out of school quickly removed her Muslim garb as soon as they cleared the school. :moo:

 

[Dr. Know?]

Screechhhhh. I thought of something that bothered me. Came to school late 10/20 minutes it sounds like. Mysterious woman/mom demands to take her to breakfast not long after that & demands she has too many errands or whatever & has signed her out already to the sub....hmmm & she was out of school Thursday & Friday?

 

[jjenny]

No overt injuries means no easily visible injuries. If they looked at her in the t-shirt they would not see any visible injuries.

 

[CHERIE.T]

child does not feel right to me in this case, although, that is just my own opinion with what is known thus far.

For child to be the reason, the perps could have easily simply used the other children reported to already be in that house. In addition, if they wanted a strange child, who they could use for that purpose and then release in order to further distance themselves from possible connection to the victim. It would have been far easier to snatch a child from a park, lure a child from store, or local business rather than go into a public school, mere weeks after a major school massacre, when people would OSTENSIBLY be more alert to school security.

Not that this school exhibited such hyper alertness (quite the opposite IMO).

Why kidnap a child for that purpose from a location full of witnesses and video cameras and perpetrate the ruse of being a parent?

Too complicated.

Child pornographers IMO don't tend to target specific children but rather take their victims as they find them IMO.

Agree . WHY was this little one targeted? She was known to her kidnapper....at least the one who asked for her by name at school. What about street cameras? Anyone know ? :moo:

 

[CHERIE.T]

I believe there is a network involved. The perps knew the victim, it's clear. She has been so injured to need to return to the hospital. A reporter for a philly local news station asked for everyone to pray for this little girl LAST WEEK and posted for everyone to wait for new info. The new info was that the girl had returned to the hospital because of injuries that occurred during her abduction. He posted again last night about "disturbing new details" that would come out about what happened. We waited for the news and found out that she was "horribly" injured during her abduction. Obviously, the reporter wants to divulge but cannot. I'm fearing the speculation from last night is true. I hope it is not. We haven't heard anything about anything other than the girl being stripped and put under a bed and fed something. Was she drugged with that food? She heard the name "Rashida" and was lead to a playground somehow with the help of another person. This happened sometime around 4:30-5:30 when she was thankfully discovered by a passerby who heard her cries. There is a large gap in info and was she passed out or asleep? Is the lack of info because she was blindfolded and tuned out?

I'm trying to find a link to a print version or a video where Mr. Mandela Myers described what he heard when he was walking by. I thought he said it sounded like a wounded animal and then looked to see a small child. I'll look for this info. I could be wrong.

During his first interview the rescuer said he at first thought she was a cat.

 

[Dr. Know?]

That's true. A cat's meow can sound like a small child. I hear it out my bedroom window at night and during the day when I'm home. I jump everytime to stop whatever it is. It's so close you have to figure out if it's a child or cat. You never know at first?

 

[countryfox]

I wonder if the kidnapper who took the child out of school quickly removed her Muslim garb as soon as they cleared the school. :moo:

The 2nd video,:rocker: which captured them a distance from the school, shows her still wearing the outfit and carrying the umbrella, along with N, appearing as they did on the school surveillance camera.

 

[CHERIE.T]

has there been any other news of searches in the neighborhood or people being questioned? Also has there been any other news outside the Fox story about dad purportedly failing a poly? TIA

I know LE searches and investigations are often hush hush.....but I hope LE checked all houses with in a 5-10 mile radius where known Islam's lived. Also, since the child was found in a T-shirt....I hope LE checked trash cans for her clothes. Just throwing out thoughts.

 

[Janeumayer]

I wonder if the kidnapper who took the child out of school quickly removed her Muslim garb as soon as they cleared the school. :moo:

The child was wearing the white covering over her head and seemed to end at her waist. You can see it clearly in the second video released by LE. They were walking by a street corner and the lady was covering herself with the black umbrella. Also, there were a few of people nearby.

 

[CHERIE.T]

The 2nd video,:rocker: which captured them a distance from the school, shows her still wearing the outfit and carrying the umbrella, along with N, appearing as they did on the school surveillance camera.

Thank you countryfox.

 

[CHERIE.T]

The child was wearing the white covering over her head and seemed to end at her waist. You can see it clearly in the second video released by LE. They were walking by a street corner and the lady was covering herself with the black umbrella. Also, there were a few of people nearby.

Janeumayer, thanks. I will go watch the video now.

 

[countryfox]

Has there been any update on the other missing child from the same locale..Chelsea Ramsey-Jones? Curiously, there seems to be little or no interest in finding her or ruling out any connection with N's case.

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8731559#post8731559
After reading the theories about FGM, I just wanted to point this post out. I paraphrased the live presser given on January 16th at 1pm and Captain Darby said that the male suspect was restraining the child and "enjoying this victim". I remember that line specifically because it gave me chills and I put quotations around that phrase because it was verbatim. I can't find a link to that press conference though....I'd like to rewatch it. The video of the press conference originally posted by The Cheese on page 23 of that thread goes to a different press conference now (it goes to the one I link next which was actually from Jan 15th not the 16th).

Also here's a presser from Jan 15th in which Captain Darby says there were no overt signs of injury. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8955189

These clues make me believe she was more likely a victim of sexual assault, rape. :cry:

Why would LE use those words? "enjoying this victim". That's odd terminology. :moo:

 

[CHERIE.T]

Has there been any update on the other missing child from the same locale..Chelsea Ramsey-Jones? Curiously, there seems to be little or no interest in finding her or ruling out any connection with N's case.

I haven't heard anything new about Ramsey-Jones. I'm searching now.

 

[bessie]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8731559#post8731559
After reading the theories about FGM, I just wanted to point this post out. I paraphrased the live presser given on January 16th at 1pm and Captain Darby said that the male suspect was restraining the child and "enjoying this victim". I remember that line specifically because it gave me chills and I put quotations around that phrase because it was verbatim. I can't find a link to that press conference though....I'd like to rewatch it. The video of the press conference originally posted by The Cheese on page 23 of that thread goes to a different press conference now (it goes to the one I link next which was actually from Jan 15th not the 16th).

Also here's a presser from Jan 15th in which Captain Darby says there were no overt signs of injury. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=8955189

These clues make me believe she was more likely a victim of sexual assault, rape. :cry:

I lean toward that, also. I don't have a link handy, but I think an injury such as a perforated colon, or fistula, for example, might not have been immediately apparent.

One possibility is as unthinkable as the other, and either could (should) provoke strong emotional reactions from any human being with the least trace of compassion. The outrage coming from local officials is particularly disturbing because it suggests that the assault exceeded the pale of even the worst big city, violent crimes that occur daily in large urban communities. (Among cities with populations of 500K or more, Philadelphia ranked number 6 in crime for 2011-2012. http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2011/CityCrimePopRank2011.pdf)

As a resident of another large city where crime is prevalent, such expressions as we've heard from Mayor Nutter, Senator Williams, and Captain Darby are rare occurrences, and that's alarming. I'd be interested to hear from locals who can tell us if they recall similar declarations from this mayor and police department in response to other violent crimes.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Forgive my ignorance but what day do Muslims honor their religion or worship?

 

[CHERIE.T]

I lean toward that, also. I don't have a link handy, but I think an injury such as a perforated colon, or fistula, for example, might not have been immediately apparent.

One possibility is as unthinkable as the other, and either could (should) provoke strong emotional reactions from any human being with the least trace of compassion . The outrage coming from local officials is particularly disturbing because it suggests that the assault exceeded the pale of even the worst big city, violent crimes that occur daily in large urban communities. (Among cities with populations of 500K or more, Philadelphia ranked number 6 in crime for 2011-2012. http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2011/CityCrimePopRank2011.pdf)

As a resident of another large city where crime is prevalent, such expressions as we've heard from Mayor Nutter, Senator Williams, and Captain Darby are rare occurrences, and that's alarming. I'd be interested to hear from locals who can tell us if they recall similar declarations from this mayor and police department in response to other violent crimes.

B b m In all my years Ive never heard a crime described as such. lease: I need to pray.....pray this little one heals and pray her horrible kidnappers are found , prosecuted and pray they later forever rot in he!l.