PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #110

[StarryStarryNight]

Any links on where this is streaming this morning?

I’m pretty sure the Law and Crime YouTube Channel is covering it.


Edit: typo

 

[Boxer]

Jury trial, death penalty or plea deal for LWOP is still no justice for those four beautiful lives. The families will never get closure. The only win is the risk of a hung jury or DP with all the appeals, off the table. However, the parents feel how they feel and no one is right or wrong. My heart breaks for them. I will probably miss the hearing, but I will certainly be praying for some sliver of peace for the families….BK’s family as well. Job well done by LE catching BK.
We will never forget Kaylee, Maddie, Xana or Ethan.

The elimination of appeals a big win IMO. Trials are always risky no matter how slam dunky they look.

He thinks he will be found guilty and the difference in prison living conditions between LWOP and DR is extreme. So in a sense it's an Alford guilty plea even if not expressly called one.

 

[AngTxGal]

Yes, the page describes unspeakable things being done to women. The picture of Kohberger holding The Handmaids Tale in his hand at the Atwood lecture sent chills down my spine. Of course, like @MeadowMuffin, and I had to check page 118 of my own copy of the book.

ETA: I read the book for an Anthropology of Women course. It made a huge impact on me.

I had missed this part of the story, and I found it on News Nation. Wow, I think you are onto something here. What a twisted sick f’k (excuse my language).

Kohberger Appears in 2018 photo from college event- Atwood lecture

We have to consider that maybe Kohberger is now a 30 year old male virgin- an angry incel?

IMO

 

[Chloegirl]

Yes, the page describes unspeakable things being done to women. The picture of Kohberger holding The Handmaids Tale in his hand at the Atwood lecture sent chills down my spine. Of course, like @MeadowMuffin, and I had to check page 118 of my own copy of the book.

ETA: I read the book for an Anthropology of Women course. It made a huge impact on me.

Never read it do not intend to. I would really like someone to share a screenshot of that page (of course it is horrific but to understand the context).

 

[tlcya]

Supporters of Bryan Kohberger — known as “probergers” — have doggedly defended the man charged with fatally stabbing four University of Idaho undergrads in 2022, even as he’s accepted a plea deal copping to the unthinkable carnage.

Some fans blame lazy, crooked cops. Others claim he’s a scapegoat in a wide-ranging conspiracy. A handful have even written him passionate love letters.

Now Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to his crimes – but the proberger party ain’t over yet.

“Still innocent until proven guilty,” insisted Amanda Smith, on X, adding that she was “frozen in shock” after the plea deal was announced.
Deluded Bryan Kohberger fans known as ‘probergers’ insist he’s innocent – despite guilty plea deal: ‘Reeks of a coverup’

probably the same ilk as those who insist to this day that Scott Lee Peterson is innocent, Richard Allen is innocent, and so forth. IMO there is a growing culture around accused and convicted defendants and those who will perform the most intricate mental gymnastics to espouse their innocence, even after conviction or in this instance plea.

I don't begin to understand what is behind all this fangirling that has taken hold the past few years but I find it deeply troubling.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

The elimination of appeals a big win IMO. Trials are always risky no matter how slam dunky they look.

He thinks he will be found guilty and the difference in prison living conditions between LWOP and DR is extreme. So in a sense it's an Alford guilty plea even if not expressly called one.

If BK openly admits to committing each crime, it won’t be an Alford plea, no?

Hippler has to get BK to do this, or the conspiracy theorists will go wild and never leave DM, BF, Steve Goncalves or the DD driver at peace.

IMO

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940391380041510993

 

[Megnut]

MOO He wanted a car when at his parent's rural home. Renting a car is expensive and eliminates any cost difference between driving your own car home and flying.
MOO He likes driving and taking a road trip with Dad is about the most normal about him.

Yet... he couldn't even do that normally and took a circuitous route home, sounds like. Maybe he added some backroads because he wanted to do some daytime stargazing.

JMO

 

[Snoop Sister]

“The Court received multiple requests by various media outlets to video record the change of plea hearing scheduled for Wednesday, July 2, 2025. A live-stream of the proceedings will be provided by the Court on its media streaming account. Therefore, the various requests by media outlets to independently video record the proceedings are denied.”

Link to live:

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

 

[Vaderman]

As sick as it is- we have soldiers who come back from combat with PTSD. Does a killer have some kind of symptoms similar to PTSD? Do they suffer trauma? If so, what does that look like?

This is a fascinating question. I'm going down some rabbit holes on this topic over the long holiday weekend!

I wonder if BK will be permitted to wear civilian clothes today or if, since he's pleading guilty, he'll be in the bright orange.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

This is a fascinating question. I'm going down some rabbit holes on this topic over the long holiday weekend!

I wonder if BK will be permitted to wear civilian clothes today or if, since he's pleading guilty, he'll be in the bright orange.

I have the same question. Maybe Boise has a nice striped outfit instead of the bright orange one.

 

[AngTxGal]

Never read it do not intend to. I would really like someone to share a screenshot of that page (of course it is horrific but to understand the context).

It isn’t the entire page, it is a paragraph…

Chapter 20
It is a description of the training for Handmaids, first a jump back in time to what kinds of movies students in high school may watch in geography class. Then a jump back to the present- a group together with Aunt Helen and Aunt Lydia.

“Aunt Lydia did not show these kinds of movies.
Sometimes the movie she showed would be an old Corn film from the seventies or eighties. Women kneeling, sucking Pickles, or guns, women tied up or chained or with dog collars around their necks, women hanging from trees, or upside-down, naked, with their legs held apart, women being Rapped, beaten up, killed. Once we had to watch a woman being slowly cut to pieces, her fingers and breasts snipped off with garden shears, her stomach slit open and her intestines pulled out.”
Margaret Atwood- The Handmaid’s Tale p. 118

It is followed by a declaration as to how horrible the past was and how much better the the current state of society is- with women as Handmaids. And because the former things were done by those who were ‘Godless’.

Yeah, tough stuff. The obvious capitals and misspellings are my attempt to make the disgusting more easily swallowed. Yuk
If BK thought this paragraph was inspirational- he clearly missed the point of Atwood’s dystopian novel, to learn from societies that have gone off track so our society can Wake Up to injustices before they run amuck.

I find the odds of BK attending the Atwood lecture, and the descriptions on page 118 of this book, and the mention of a book with underlining on p 118 noted as part of evidence, given his crimes - well beyond mere coincidence.

IMO

 

[CLGM]

Actually, I believe it’s Mountain Time (Boise):
(Moscow is Pacific)

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Ack, sorry!! I have a kid currently in Pacific time, so that’s in my brain. Will edit my post!

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Yet... he couldn't even do that normally and took a circuitous route home, sounds like. Maybe he added some backroads because he wanted to do some daytime stargazing.

JMO

Well, there were a lot of snow storms forecast along the most direct, northern route. Still, a route through Colorado in December doesn’t seem ideal, either, for an Elantra. Maybe he had snow tires or chains—he is from the Poconos, after all.

IMO

 

[Snoop Sister]

From the courts media streaming account. 11 a.m Mountain Time

 

[Megnut]

I didn't know they had snow tires in Pennsylvania.

 

[danablue1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940391380041510993

she's weird in my opinion who wants to know what a cold blooded killer thinks. Hard pass

 

[Boxer]

If BK openly admits to committing each crime, it won’t be an Alford plea, no?

Hippler has to get BK to do this, or the conspiracy theorists will go wild and never leave DM, BF, Steve Goncalves or the DD driver at peace.

IMO

MOO He will admit to gain better circumstances.
It is not technically an Alford plea, where the accused just agrees that they will probably be found guilty.
But I think he thinks he thinks he probably be found guilty and he that he better plead guilty to avoid the fate of existence on Death row of 23 hours in cell and 1 hour recreation.

 

[Chloegirl]

It isn’t the entire page, it is a paragraph…

Chapter 20
It is a description of the training for Handmaids, first a jump back in time to what kinds of movies students in high school may watch in geography class. Then a jump back to the present- a group together with Aunt Helen and Aunt Lydia.

“Aunt Lydia did not show these kinds of movies.
Sometimes the movie she showed would be an old Corn film from the seventies or eighties. Women kneeling, sucking Pickles, or guns, women tied up or chained or with dog collars around their necks, women hanging from trees, or upside-down, naked, with their legs held apart, women being Rapped, beaten up, killed. Once we had to watch a woman being slowly cut to pieces, her fingers and breasts snipped off with garden shears, her stomach slit open and her intestines pulled out.”
Margaret Attwood- The Handmaid’s Tale p. 118

It is followed by a declaration as to how horrible the past was and how much better the the current state of society is- with women as Handmaids. And because the former things were done by those who were ‘Godless’.

Yeah, tough stuff. If BK thought this paragraph was inspirational- he clearly missed the point of Atwood’s dystopian novel, to learn from societies that have gone off track so our society can Wake Up to injustices before they run amuck.

IMO

I appreciate you providing this for context. This reminds me of the injuries with XKs fingers, some of the rumors about other injuries and I will leave it at that. Perhaps the budding serial killer whisperings actually have merit. JMOO

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Never read it do not intend to. I would really like someone to share a screenshot of that page (of course it is horrific but to understand the context).

Warning, it’s graphic:


Pg 118, The Handmaid’s Tale