PLEA DEAL REACHED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #110

[SteveP]

Kind of crazy. Many of us have been following this since day one, and we're about a half hour away from seeing this come to a conclusion.

I know, hard to believe, but for me, I will not really consider it closed until his sentencing hearing, when the victims' families and friends get to make their impact statements, and let him know that despite any wishes he may have to the contrary, he will not be remembered, but their loved ones forever will be. JMO

 

[AngTxGal]

Yes, he looks as if he were imagining how he might re-enact his favorite scenes from the book.

I wonder if he underlined any of the passages from those scenes, perhaps for later reference while writing an assigned essay.

IMO

Sorry but give me a break, he is a sicko so rational thinking doesn’t work
Why why why did he have an issue with women?
Why did he think he was so insignificant that murder was the only way to make his mark on the world?
Why was he so lazy or incompetent that he did not avoid detection?
Why were these four targeted?
Why a knife and not some other way?

It isn’t rational or humane at all- it is twisted f’k ness that killed four young souls and left the rest of us wondering why why why.
He was sick- broken and I can’t help but wonder why. And these questions would serve to understand and prevent future harm, but not a sign of caring a rat’s ars about the predator.

I hurt for the victims and their families, and feel fear for the survivors. They deserve so much more

IMO

 

[PunishThenForgive]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940438580578717930

Hunter and Emily (from the 911 call) are with them.

 

[Bahshudc]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940446639745048786

IMO the flight logs show that Steve G thinks that BK’s parents knew about the deal before the victim’s families did. Therefore they booked a flight earlier than the rest?

 

[Megnut]

He's certainly entitled to his opinion as the parent of a murdered young woman.
His opinion is not shared by all the victims' families, however.
He's just the loudest voice in the room, so what he's saying is getting more attention.

Lady Justice can't allow the feelings of grieving family members to outweigh what's in the best interest of society as a whole.

BK poses a tremendous threat to the public. He's very, very, very dangerous. As he's shown us.

This monster can't ever walk free.
This plea deal ensures he won't.

He apparently completed something to be granted his Master's. Professor or Board's discretion probably. Maybe he gave a theoretical dissertation.

It's just not lost on me that it doesn't look like he interviewed any actual criminal minds, doesn't look like he tried very hard to do so. He was busy fantasizing about something else.

JMO

 

[Diddian]

Do you think SG thought he may not be able to control his emotions? I think it would be hard, given the circumstances.

I haven't agreed with some things the Goncalves family has done or said as I've worried at times that they could impact the investigation and later, the prosecution.

That said, if I were a parent who'd had my young adult child punched and stabbed to death, I don't think I'd be able to control myself in the presence of the person who did it. And I've watched a male friend whose daughter was repetitively sexually assaulted in a daycare setting completely fall apart in nearly every way because of his failure to alert to what was wrong and to protect his daughter, and then because - although the predator was prosecuted - he could not personally go after that predator for what he'd done. Parents want to protect and as part of that protection they often want the known predators dead and to be a part of making that happen - better through the court process than personally.

I'm glad SG's son left the courtroom with him so SG isn't alone as this is happening. SG has a good son.

 

[CHEL]

IMO the flight logs show that Steve G thinks that BK’s parents knew about the deal before the victim’s families did. Therefore they booked a flight earlier than the rest?

That is how I understood it.

 

[Miss Poovy]

He apparently completed something to be granted his Master's. Professor or Board's discretion probably. Maybe he gave a theoretical dissertation.

It's just not lost on me that it doesn't look like he interviewed any actual criminal minds, doesn't look like he tried very hard to do so. He was busy fantasizing about something else.

JMO

I’ve never seen a project master’s at the university I worked for, but I’ve heard of them.

 

[Boxer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940445300663156906

He is a wild card. His anger is understandable, but every trial risky and this is a sure thing.

Oh, of course. He couldn’t be bothered with dotting the “i”s and crossing the “t”s required of written research.

He was going to “learn by doing.”

In teacher talk, he’d be considered a tactile or kinesthetic learner, not a verbal/linguistic one.

I’m surprised any of his professors ever considered him gifted in any way.

JMO

Zoom class. Easy to curate snippets of video presence to create a false persona.

 

[Megnut]

He's certainly entitled to his opinion as the parent of a murdered young woman.
His opinion is not shared by all the victims' families, however.
He's just the loudest voice in the room, so what he's saying is getting more attention.

Lady Justice can't allow the feelings of grieving family members to outweigh what's in the best interest of society as a whole.

BK poses a tremendous threat to the public. He's very, very, very dangerous. As he's shown us.

This monster can't ever walk free.
This plea deal ensures he won't.

Exactly. Juries do surprising things. This is a guaranteed verdict, sparing victims and survivors and witnesses from traumatic testimony.

And the real win, no appeals.

JMO

 

[CLGM]

I haven't agreed with some things the Goncalves family has done or said as I've worried at times that they could impact the investigation and later, the prosecution.

That said, if I were a parent who'd had my young adult child punched and stabbed to death, I don't think I'd be able to control myself in the presence of the person who did it. And I've watched a male friend whose daughter was repetitively sexually assaulted in a daycare setting completely fall apart in nearly every way because of his failure to alert to what was wrong and to protect his daughter, and then because - although the predator was prosecuted - he could not personally go after that predator for what he'd done. Parents want to protect and as part of that protection they often want the known predators dead and to be a part of making that happen - better through the court process than personally.

I'm glad SG's son left the courtroom with him so SG isn't alone as this is happening. SG has a good son.

All of this. ^^^

 

[Chloegirl]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1940446639745048786

He is angry. Feels betrayed. Knows BKs family flew out to get him to agree to the plea deal likely way before stated. He will definitely be talking more on this. I wish he was in a better headspace, but I feel deeply for SG. This has been quite the development. JMOO

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Sorry but give me a break, he is a sicko so rational thinking doesn’t work
Why why why did he have an issue with women?
Why did he think he was so insignificant that murder was the only way to make his mark on the world?
Why was he so lazy or incompetent that he did not avoid detection?
Why were these four targeted?
Why a knife and not some other way?

It isn’t rational or humane at all- it is twisted f’k ness that killed four young souls and left the rest of us wondering why why why.
He was sick- broken and I can’t help but wonder why. And these questions would serve to understand and prevent future harm, but not a sign of caring a rat’s ars about the predator.

I hurt for the victims and their families, and feel fear for the survivors. They deserve so much more

IMO

I don’t think there is anything rational about reading a book meant to portray the evil effects of misogyny, but apparently liking that dystopian vision. His hatred is irrational.

 

[detective.moon]

Kind of crazy. Many of us have been following this since day one, and we're about a half hour away from seeing this come to a conclusion.

this is the case that brought me to websleuths!

for SG it seems like it might not be the case, but i hope that for at least some of the loved ones and the surviving roommates today’s guilty plea will be helpful in some way. all reactions and emotions are valid i think, everyone grieves in their own way

 

[Magic8Ball]

TrueCrime just reported SG and his family arrived at Court and went in. A few minutes later he (SG) came out and told Angenette Leavy that he was livid, he was not going to participate in the 'zoo' and left.
WTAH???

Well, his choice.

But let's just note for the record that this hearing was SG's opportunity to address the court directly to express his objection to the plea deal vs. going out and complaining to people in the media who can't actually do anything about it.

His daughter was not the only victim.

Courtrooms are not zoos. There is order and decorum in a court.

Media environments, on the other hand, ARE zoo-like...especially social media.

So at some point it's fair to ask why SG is choosing to air his grievances in the media vs. in court.

JMO.

 

[Miss Poovy]

He is angry. Feels betrayed. Knows BKs family flew out to get him to agree to the plea deal likely way before stated. He will definitely be talking more on this. I wish he was in a better headspace, but I feel deeply for SG. This has been quite the development. JMOO

And I’m sure the media seeks him out because they know he’s upset & he will express his anger. I also feel for him.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

IMO the flight logs show that Steve G thinks that BK’s parents knew about the deal before the victim’s families did. Therefore they booked a flight earlier than the rest?

No doubt the defense (and therefore the State of Idaho) arranged and paid for the ticket. His parents have to be there, though. It will also make it more likely that BK will go through with the plea.

IMO

 

[Bahshudc]

Well, his choice.

But let's just note for the record that this hearing was his opportunity to address the court directly about his objection to the plea deal vs. complaining to people who can't actually do anything about it.

His daughter was not the only victim.

Courtrooms are not zoos. There is order and decorum in a court.

Media environments, on the other hand, ARE zoo-like...especially social media.

So at some point it's fair to ask why SG is choosing to air his grievances in the media vs. in court.

JMO.

Because he feels like the court doesn’t listen to him. The media does. This entire reaction seems to have emerged from SG’s opinion that he & his family have been disregarded and “abandoned” by the state, no?

MOO.

 

[justtrish]

Thanks, agree! I did catch it on X later. I think she's definitely leaving the door open to engage with him later. I actually can see him trying to do that, seems they had a good rapport when he was in her classes.

Personally I would be questioning myself and what did I miss with this guy if I were in her position. How many other forensic phycologists/writers have had a student become a serial murderer? This may be a first. Imagine being on that side of the scenario vs the usual place of studying the behavior after the fact? Has to be hard to process since she is the professional. This is why I think he will reach out to her...

All JMO

I wish it could be mandated that he NOT have contact with her. If someone else wants to study him fine, but him getting to dictate and take any more pleasure out of this crime is just repulsive. He had a thing for her so why would she be allowed to study him now? I'm sure that would just make him feel all kinds of important and special if this person he idolized now wanted to study him. IMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I get it. I m not sure I would be able to politely sit in the courtroom with the monster who had murdered by child,

I cannot pretend to even imagine what SG is going through. There are also many other parents and siblings going through the same thing today. It's incomprehensible to me and I feel beyond heartbroken for all of them.

If SG thought he may not have been able to control himself, I think he did the right thing by leaving.

moo