Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Rescued from Cave, 23 June 2018 #6

[Spellbound]

I see ya, Ana! Have a wonderful day>

 

[DakotaMayi]

I see ya, Ana! Have a wonderful day>

Right back atcha! <3

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo...

You stuck in a cave or something, Ana?

(too soon?)

 

[bluedivergirl]

You and Verdigris are prolly right- last ones out prolly can't have
close photographers in with them yet. I'll still feel a lot better
when I've seen them and coach.

Just want to give a personal observation here about the sedation.
Many, many years back when I got SCUBA CERTIFIED- all adults
in class- we got to choose our dive partners early on. There were
so many I would not be partners with because they all went
schizo at times during diving because of normal claustophobic
reactions and fear of being underwater and fear of maybe not
being able to breathe, panic, panic, panic.
So when this rescue first started, in my mind, with young inexperienced boys with limited swimming skills and no real
diving training- I was positively sure they would sedate all
the boys out of necessity. To insure their safety as well as
the accompanying divers. Fighting with someone underwater
with all your gear on can kill you and the other one. Experienced
lifeguards will also tell you stories of drowning victims fighting
the lifeguard out of sheer panic.
I'm just glad they're finally being up front and transparent
about this.

I agree with you.There is no reason for these young men to remember the fear of the exit trip. They have enough to deal with.

A detail I noticed ~ the masks they requested have positive pressure, meaning a slight pressure of air was against their faces. This makes it impossible for water to seep into the mask. One less worry.

Also, the O2 mix in the boy's tanks was quite high, 80%. The air we are all breathing is @ 21%.

Re: panic. Divers have two regulators, one for their own use, and another brightly colored regulator that is worn mid-chest. Divers who run out of air have been known to snatch a regulator from another diver's mouth. The back-up is brightly colored in the hope they will grab that first, but they usually go for the one in your mouth. You just take the back-up for your own use, and let them have the original, as it has a longer hose. You then begin your (hopefully slow) ascent to the surface together.

 

[bluedivergirl]

Hi all, does anyone know if the boys could hear any of all the drilling and pumping, etc. being done by the crew, before John and Rick so wonderously popped up to find them? I hope they could hear things, and knew people were trying...
I only recall reading that they heard roosters crowing, dogs barking, and kids playing...
I need to ration my 4G data, and limit searching in articles or videos; so if anyone knows, please?
TY!

Theoretically they could, sound travels very well underwater. It may have worried them if it happened before they saw the rescue divers.

 

[*Verdigris]

'We're no heroes': British divers who rescued trapped Thai boys from cave reject suggestions of knighthood, saying anyone would do the same

Now there are calls for the brave British potholers – nine in total - to be honoured at Buckingham Palace.

It’s not like that – if you could do the same for someone else’s child, you would,’ said John Volanthen, 47, an IT consultant from Bristol.

‘The result is the important thing. The kids came out, the coach is good, the [Thai navy] Seals are good – job done.

'So we’re pleased with that.’

Retired Coventry firefighter Rick Stanton, 56, said: ‘It seems to have lifted the whole country. It all went according to plan. The boys did well.’

British divers who rescued trapped Thai boys from cave reject suggestions of knighthood | Daily Mail Online

Do you think there's any way all the lovely people could somehow convince them to accept? (I think it should/would be issued.)
Sign a petition or something? I'd really, really like to see them receive that!
(Especially considering some of the confusingly questionable ones who have already been given one.)

imo

 

[dyannaON]

They really are true heros.

 

[Spellbound]

Good aeticle that depicts the dangers and how strong-willed everyone became during the rescue.

Thai journalist says the cave rescue mission 'united' the country

For Thai journalist Nattha Komolvadhin, the heart-pounding, 18-day rescue mission of 12 boys and their coach from the depths of a flooded cave in Thailand not only brought the country together but captured the attention of the entire world.

“People are united together,” Komolvadhin, a news editor for Thai PBS, told “20/20.” “This is the very first time in Thailand for many years that people feel the same mission. People [have] joined [in] spirit to really accomplish this mission and it's, in a way, wonderful for Thailand, [that] at this very moment to have the story that people feel that we have to move together, we have to fight together, and we have to send our support to help these 12 boys and the coach.”

The rescued boys and coach get passed to a team of medics .....

 

[Spellbound]

One of the rescued boys is carried by six rescuers across ankle-high stream of water to medics inside the cave for immediate treatment.

Thai journalist says the cave rescue mission 'united' the country

 

[dyannaON]

Did they carry out the coach as well? Was he sedated? I think as an adult rescuing him would be so much more difficult. Both for the rescuers and the coach.

 

[Spellbound]

Video from GMA this morning. Divers and families get to meet; divers speaking about the experience. Can't find a youtube video yet.

Video: Families of Thai soccer team meet their rescuers

'Nobody has ever heard of such a big operation that ended so good"


ETA ... the video is at youtube now

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[kkdj]

I'm going to miss us all being together on here. So glad to have this site and all of you. I'm sure we'll run into each other on other threads.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Video from GMA this morning. Divers and families get to meet; divers speaking about the experience. Can't find a youtube video yet.

Video: Families of Thai soccer team meet their rescuers

'Nobody has ever heard of such a big operation that ended so good"


ETA ... the video is at youtube now

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I think I've cried more about this since they got out than I did when they were still stuck. So emotional.

@kkdj I totally agree, I like to think the international effort on the ground has been reflected by the amount of different nations represented here. You all rock!

 

[enelram]

Did they carry out the coach as well? Was he sedated? I think as an adult rescuing him would be so much more difficult. Both for the rescuers and the coach.

Think you're right. He had to have been sedated. Divers couldn't
risk it otherwise.

 

[Spellbound]

Videos and photos at link: With all odds against them, here's how rescuers pulled off 'miracle' Thai cave feat

We train for rescue diving and, at times, we've trained for cave rescue," U.S. Air Force Maj. Charles Hodges, commander for the 353rd Special Operations unit, said Wednesday on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"But we don't ever train for cave-rescue diving," he continued. "I'm incredibly impressed with the way that it worked out, but at the time, candidly, I was thinking that it would be much worse results."


Three days after the group was located, a volunteer diver, retired Thai Navy SEAL Saman Gunan, lost consciousness during an overnight operation delivering extra air tanks inside the cave. He could not be revived and was confirmed dead early Friday morning.

"We were very sad, and we felt like the whole world crashed," Ostanakorn said in an interview with ABC News on Wednesday.

He said other challenges were being thrown at the rescuers. Pumps were not working sufficiently and not enough floodwater was being siphoned from the cave.

Ostanakorn said water was actually rising in the middle part of the cave, threatening to seal off more passageways leading to where the boys and coach were with three Thai Navy SEALs and a medic who was treating their minor injuries and keeping them calm and positive.

Declaring "we are still at the state of war against the water," Ostanakorn and the rescue leaders made the decision late Saturday to execute the plan to bring the group out one by one with divers. It was the only viable option they had.

Attempts failed to put a communication line into the cavern, also known as the "ninth chamber," where the survivors were located. There was no way for rescue crews venturing beyond the third chamber, where a staging area was established, to be in touch with those organizing outside.

Rescue begins at 10 am Sunday [good info here]
[One by one, the boys were fitted with wetsuits. One boy was so small that a special wetsuit had to be custom-made for him..... Each boy was placed on a flexible stretcher and secured tightly with ropes, an air tank positioned at his side, and a breathing regulator fixed to his mouth, then carefully lowered to the water. Were submerged for up to a half-hour. 30 rescuers formed a brigade to relay thej to the medics ]

"It ended up being normally one diver per boy just because we had a minimal amount of divers," Hodges said.

Day 2 of rescue

Final Push

Just two hours after the last rescue was made and all the crews were pulled from the underground, the skies opened up and a rainstorm hit. The pumps that had been used to remove water from the cave also broke down and the subterranean maze was flooded again.


....
the success had everything to do with an international team effort that included the "great divers from the world" and showed what people from different countries and cultures can accomplish when they work together for a single purpose.

"It is not my mission," he said. "It is for the whole team mission. We had 2,000 people here every day that reached for them to come out great and healthy."

 

[kkdj]

Videos and photos at link: With all odds against them, here's how rescuers pulled off 'miracle' Thai cave feat

We train for rescue diving and, at times, we've trained for cave rescue," U.S. Air Force Maj. Charles Hodges, commander for the 353rd Special Operations unit, said Wednesday on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"But we don't ever train for cave-rescue diving," he continued. "I'm incredibly impressed with the way that it worked out, but at the time, candidly, I was thinking that it would be much worse results."


Three days after the group was located, a volunteer diver, retired Thai Navy SEAL Saman Gunan, lost consciousness during an overnight operation delivering extra air tanks inside the cave. He could not be revived and was confirmed dead early Friday morning.

"We were very sad, and we felt like the whole world crashed," Ostanakorn said in an interview with ABC News on Wednesday.

He said other challenges were being thrown at the rescuers. Pumps were not working sufficiently and not enough floodwater was being siphoned from the cave.

Ostanakorn said water was actually rising in the middle part of the cave, threatening to seal off more passageways leading to where the boys and coach were with three Thai Navy SEALs and a medic who was treating their minor injuries and keeping them calm and positive.

Declaring "we are still at the state of war against the water," Ostanakorn and the rescue leaders made the decision late Saturday to execute the plan to bring the group out one by one with divers. It was the only viable option they had.

Attempts failed to put a communication line into the cavern, also known as the "ninth chamber," where the survivors were located. There was no way for rescue crews venturing beyond the third chamber, where a staging area was established, to be in touch with those organizing outside.

Rescue begins at 10 am Sunday [good info here]
[One by one, the boys were fitted with wetsuits. One boy was so small that a special wetsuit had to be custom-made for him..... Each boy was placed on a flexible stretcher and secured tightly with ropes, an air tank positioned at his side, and a breathing regulator fixed to his mouth, then carefully lowered to the water. Were submerged for up to a half-hour. 30 rescuers formed a brigade to relay thej to the medics ]

"It ended up being normally one diver per boy just because we had a minimal amount of divers," Hodges said.

Day 2 of rescue

Final Push

Just two hours after the last rescue was made and all the crews were pulled from the underground, the skies opened up and a rainstorm hit. The pumps that had been used to remove water from the cave also broke down and the subterranean maze was flooded again.


....
the success had everything to do with an international team effort that included the "great divers from the world" and showed what people from different countries and cultures can accomplish when they work together for a single purpose.

"It is not my mission," he said. "It is for the whole team mission. We had 2,000 people here every day that reached for them to come out great and healthy."

This almost seems biblical!
Tears again!

 

[JanetElaine]

Is The independent considered reliable or senastionalist reporting? I'm not sure whether to consider this a good source..?

Classmates of trapped Thai boys 'still plan to explore caves themselves'
--For adolescent boys in this mountainous region of far northern Thailand, venturing deep into the dark and mysterious Tham Luang cave network is seen as a rite of passage.

--Journeys venturing inside the cave were a regular part of training for the "Wild Boars" youth football team, building camaraderie

--“They will be stronger when they come out,” said Nanthawat Prangsangwilia, a gangly 16-year-old who goes by the nickname Gan.

“When they come home, those kids will be able to teach us something – about how to survive, about how to stay safe in the caves.”

--Gan declared that, armed with the wisdom of the survivors, he would still be willing now to head into the caves that have threatened to claim the lives of his fellow students.

--Locals say that the ill-fated trip inside Tham Luang was one in a series of excursions, where the boys would push further and further inside the underground labyrinth, hardening them for the rigours of both the pitch and regular life.

bbm

I'm feeling super old now, but oh child. You don't half know what you're saying. They need to put a big old lock on this cave before we have another situation like this. This rescue operation was no easy feat and a good man lost his life. I can't blame the 16 year old because they feel invincible. But I hope authorities make sure for that exact reason that nobody gets into these caves again.

 

[Gardener1850]

'We're no heroes': British divers who rescued trapped Thai boys from cave reject suggestions of knighthood, saying anyone would do the same



British divers who rescued trapped Thai boys from cave reject suggestions of knighthood | Daily Mail Online

Do you think there's any way all the lovely people could somehow convince them to accept? (I think it should/would be issued.)
Sign a petition or something? I'd reallly, really like to see them receive that!
(Especially considering some of the confusingly questionable ones who have already been given one.)

imo

They are being humble which is all the more reason why they should be given an award. IMO, I doubt they would turn it down if the Queen offered to honor them. I don't think they would have any option but to graciously accept. To do otherwise would go against their Britishness (is that a word? Well I'm making it up if it's not, lol. I can't think of another word but I mean it in a good way like their national identity, patriotism, loyalty to the crown, etc.) Point is I don't think any honorable British citizen would turn down something like that. Just my humble opinion as an American.

 

[Alice253]

"Well, three of the SEALs, there's four of them back there, three of them made their way into chamber three and about the same time we got the word that the pumps that had been running nonstop shut off for an unknown reason and the water levels back in chamber three started rising which would have cut off our access back to chambers two, one and then out of the cave. And that's an abort criteria for our guys and so when that water level started rising everybody started grabbing their kid and they were ready to get out. Thankfully that last SEAL popped up at the last moment and everyone was able to get out of chamber three safely and make their way out and mission complete," Hodges said.

Final group was pulled from Thai cave just before water pump malfunction

Apologies if this has already been posted but just getting on and haven't had time to catch up yet.

 

[Jax49]

Elon Musk shocked over Thai cave backlash: "Something's messed up if this is not a good thing"