Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Still Trapped In Cave , 23 June 2018 #2

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Oh Lordy. I wrote a post a while back saying that at least it's good that the boys already know the confined areas, since they went through them by choice. But of course this is probably also why they might be apprehensive now as well ...because they know what it is like!
Does anyone know how long the most narrow part is? Every time I try to find a diagram of it, I get sidetracked...
I need to go back and estimate. Be back shortly.
 
  • #262
Good Mornin' Everyone- Was hoping to wake up and hear some
positive news. So sad for the Thai Seal, RIP.
Will start looking around for some good news and will post here.
Stay Strong everyone.

Yes. Keeping the faith here.

We are in this for the long haul and the good thing is they will not give up until the boys come out one way or another.

So sorry to hear the news about the deceased rescuer. Shows how treacherous the cave system is and how there cannot be any mistakes. This helps explain why they are having a tough time making a decision.

Choosing to stay put for now is also a decision so decisions are being made one way or another. Lets just keep the faith that all their decisions will be the best ones for the boys and the safety of the rescuers.
 
  • #263
An example of the treacherous 'long' skinny area that boys will
have to go through, unassisted, with breathing tanks removed.
You will see why this is a death trap for the boys.

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The area like this where boys have to crawl underwater alone
approximately 200 feet long.

Plus the four sump areas which are appx. 30 ft. across which will require diving equipment.
 
  • #264
Yes, his tank ran out of O2 while he was putting O2 tanks out for the rescue.
He was 38 yrs old. So sad, guess he didn't watch it closely enough or something.
Is there no alarm/warning system on them?

Many western dive gauges have alarms on them. Mine does not, it is all visual. I tend to be a Luddite.

Based on the inner tube/BCD Thai people do not have the same equipment available to them.
 
  • #265
Breaking News- by current Govenor who has already been replaced and moved out of area.
Fri. July 6th-
Late last night Govenor said "They will try to begin bringing out the boys, a dangerous operation but the most viable at this point."

As of Friday, the govenor is not at the cave after he was transferred to another area of the country despite the ongoing operation which he has led from the start.

Chiang Mai CityNews - Rescue Updates: Teenager Football Team Found Alive in Cave

I posted this earlier, wondering exactly what operation... he didn't say! :mad:
But I think we've figured it out by now...
 
  • #266
I posted this earlier, wondering exactly what operation... he doesn't say! :mad:
Yes, And considering that this govenor has already been booted
from managing the operation, we don't know what the new govenor
will decide.
 
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Many western dive gauges have alarms on them. Mine does not, it is all visual. I tend to be a Luddite.

Based on the inner tube/BCD Thai people do not have the same equipment available to them.

There you are! I am happy to see you today! You have insight that the rest of us non-diver folk lack. Please keep us filled in!
 
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Interior minister expected to make major announcement in press conference
A press conference is about to begin outside the Tham Luang caves where a major announcement is expected to be made by Anupong Paojinda, the interior minister.

Our reporter Michael Safi is there.

michael safi (@safimichael)
All positioned for a rare second press conference this evening ne expecting major announcement #ThamLuang #Thamluangcave @matthabusby pic.twitter.com/msktost8rR

July 6, 2018
Thailand cave rescue: Elon Musk offers Boring Company services to help trapped boys - live
 
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The press conference has been delayed by an hour.

In a worrying development, Channel News Asia’s Indochina correspondent says it “looks like it could rain soon”.

Pichayada P. (@PichayadaCNA)
Media waiting for Thai Interior Minister Gen Anupong Paochinda, who is expected to arrive soon at #ThamLuang cave complex in northern Chiang Rai for a press conference. Looks like it could rain soon! ☔pic.twitter.com/NNsmpdDUXV

July 6, 2018

Thailand cave rescue: Elon Musk offers Boring Company services to help trapped boys - live
 
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New simulation video. Translation:
#PPTVHD36 simulate a moving wild pig team from the cave, the most worrisome point is the hole before the intersection.

Bussarin_PPTV on Twitter
 
  • #275
It seems as if no one is prepared to make a final decision re: rescue and by default are 'deciding' to leave the boys in the cave. With three of them sick and one dead volunteer, they are risking all of their lives by delaying. They need to be brought out, for better or worse. Once the rains come, it will be too late for any kind of safe rescue IMO.
 
  • #276
Many western dive gauges have alarms on them. Mine does not, it is all visual. I tend to be a Luddite.

Based on the inner tube/BCD Thai people do not have the same equipment available to them.

Thank you for your reply. He was a volunteer, possibly he was using out of date equipment. Whatever the case, he should still be alive.
 
  • #277
I'm hoping the major announcement is that they are delaying
bringing the boys out through the cave and are instead taking
Musk up on his offer to drill them out somehow.
So hoping this is the announcement.
 
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Not necessarily. Triage can be tricky to outsiders. Many options are being explored "dive, drain, drill." Considering we are on a news delay (rightfully so) we don't know much about what, when or how this rescue will be done.
 
  • #279
Elon Musk decided to risk his entire reputation as an engineer and physicist (not a business man) to save these boys. His Boring Company will get them out.
 
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It seems as if no one is prepared to make a final decision re: rescue and by default are 'deciding' to leave the boys in the cave. With three of them sick and one dead volunteer, they are risking all of their lives by delaying. They need to be brought out, for better or worse. Once the rains come, it will be too late for any kind of safe rescue IMO.

I agree. I don't know about the rest of you, but I am completely obsessed with this. The thought of those children trapped in such treacherous conditions is the stuff nightmares are made of.

They need to get those kids out - NOW.
Elon - do your thing buddy. I think you are our best chance here.

For any of you who are Prayer Warriors, now is a good time to double down.
 
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