The cost of searching for Kyron

[Kat010]

I truly don't see any LE "bashing" here. I see "fair game" comments similar to many already posted in other threads.

MOO.

Then again, from the start I decided to approach this objectively and try to consider hard questions and hard options.

In short, I joined the Fence Club.

ETA/ reconsidered how something sounded.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

If there has been a significant development in the case, I don't see how it can possibly be kept "top secret" until next Tuesday. jmo

 

[Chili Fries]

This is being discussed in two threads. Here's the thread for the MCSO $$$$ request:

MCSO asks for "one-year" crime tech & almost half-a-million dollars more - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

It sounds to me like the devil is in the details. PortlandMama posted the same kind of thing in the thread you have linked, BeanE. Here is her post:

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Seems like all the Sheriff has backtracked on is accounting method, they have come up with something more creative. May not want to read too much into this, it could be fairly mundane.

 

[Sherbie]

Except he said she has "... agreed to all requests so far from investigators."

SO= Terri has cooperated and agreed to all requests so far from investigators.

DY/KH= Terri has not cooperated.

Someone is lying.

I think it deserves an audit, actually.

You could well be right, Calliope, but I'm thinking that "agreed to all requests" doesn't necessarily mean she has given them any meaningful information. She could agree to answer questions and then reply "I don't know" to all of them. She would still technically have agreed to the request.

I think LE would be reluctant to declare her uncooperative if they think there's still a chance of getting something out of her, whereas KH and DY probably have been ready to throttle her from day one if she hasn't done all she could.

Also could be strategic that KH/DY put pressure on Terri so that she doesn't perceive LE as persecuting her. I really just don't know what to think anymore. Poor little Kyron...what a mess!

 

[soldiermedic335]

This case is now officially beyond weird.

And what did Schrunk mean by "a good resolution"?

"District Attorney Michael Schrunk also spoke at the meeting. Schrunk did submit the DA's office request for $196,000 for a deputy D.A. and a limited-time investigator to continue the Kyron Horman investigation.
Schrunk said "we are confident of a good resolution (in the Kyron Horman case), and legally.""

To me, a good resolution means finding Kyron alive. But I'm wondering if he means "we find the body, arrest someone, and put them in jail."

Very bad word usage, IMHO. Just another weird thing.

ETA/typo Freudian slip into Strunk as in Strunk and White.

IMO, they've been using bad word usage since LE came out and announced it was an "isolated incident" within 24 hrs of the case. If it was "isolated" the case would have a POI by now. If a POI or case is not solved by Oct. I would be livid as a person living in Portland. This sounds alot like political maneurvering at the cost of Portland's tax payers.

 

[CASH]

Hmmm..I'm wondering if perhaps her lawyer has said they will plea bargain by next week...in which case, they won't need the extra funds and they know they will have something to brief us about by next week.

 

[Kat010]

I find it very, very interesting that LE said that TH had been cooperating.

They could have taken the route of "No comment."

Instead, they chose to make a solid statement that's directly opposite what kH/DY have been saying.

Why?

 

[soldiermedic335]

You could well be right, Calliope, but I'm thinking that "agreed to all requests" doesn't necessarily mean she has given them any meaningful information. She could agree to answer questions and then reply "I don't know" to all of them. She would still technically have agreed to the request.

I think LE would be reluctant to declare her uncooperative if they think there's still a chance of getting something out of her, whereas KH and DY probably have been ready to throttle her from day one if she's hasn't done all she could.

Also could be strategic that KH/DY put pressure on Terri so that she doesn't perceive LE as persecuting her. I really just don't know what to think anymore. Poor little Kyron...what a mess!

LE stated that TH has been cooperative. KH & DY are the ones stating she hasn't. NO one is stated by LE as having passed or failed the LDT. We can't assume anything without an official statement.

 

[CASH]

Hmm.

Seems like that would have been an important detail to clarify before going public with a request for more funds.

The budget cuts in OR this year have been extreme. I suspect that the sherriff's office thought they could get back some of the funding they lost by asking for it to find Kyron. When they realized they couldn't get away with it, they retracted the ask.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I find it very, very interesting that LE said that TH had been cooperating.

They could have taken the route of "No comment."

Instead, they chose to make a solid statement that's directly opposite what kH/DY have been saying.

Why?

I don't like to submit theories, but I have thought since very early on in this case that we're seeing a lot of smoke and mirrors and that things are not what they seem. There is more going on here than meets the eye, and we will have to remain patient until this is brought to a conclusion. jmho

 

[chasing.halos]

Except he said she has "... agreed to all requests so far from investigators."

SO= Terri has cooperated and agreed to all requests so far from investigators
DY/KH= Terri has not cooperated.
Someone is lying.
I think it deserves an audit, actually.

How can they say that when she apparently walked out of a lie detector test?

IMOO I always thought LE says she cooperates because she doesn't refuse interviews and takes lie detector tests (some?)
Again IMOO As far as KH and DY saying she "isn't cooperating," I always took that to mean "TERRI IS A LIAR!" and "she's not cooperating" sounded a little more polite.

 

[wildmala]

I find it very, very interesting that LE said that TH had been cooperating.

They could have taken the route of "No comment."

Instead, they chose to make a solid statement that's directly opposite what kH/DY have been saying.

Why?

Maybe she HAS recently been cooperating via her attorney...I mean...when was the last time DY or KH were making the 'not cooperating' statement...maybe something has changed since then. Perhaps whatever info was gathered this way was what was recently discussed with KH at the meeting. And maybe this info gave them more insight as to how much time/cost they were going to need. *All posted with hope that this would be actually true...and that it would find poor little Kyron*

 

[Sherbie]

LE stated that TH has been cooperative. KH & DY are the ones stating she hasn't. NO one is stated by LE as having passed or failed the LDT. We can't assume anything without an official statement.

Right. There's no way to know what is going on behind the scenes. We're just kicking around the possible scenarios.

I do think it's safe to say, though, that LE would not want to alienate Terri more than necessary if they think they can get something from her, regardless whether she's truly cooperative.

 

[wildmala]

I do think it's safe to say, though, that LE would not want to alienate Terri more than necessary if they think they can get something from her, regardless whether she's truly cooperative.

I absolutely agree with this.

 

[soldiermedic335]

How can they say that when she apparently walked out of a lie detector test?

IMOO I always thought LE says she cooperates because she doesn't refuse interviews and takes lie detector tests (some?)
Again IMOO As far as KH and DY saying she "isn't cooperating," I always took that to mean "TERRI IS A LIAR!" and "she's not cooperating" sounded a little more polite.

LE didn't make that statement. KH did. I don't remember him being an "official spokesman" for MCSO.

 

[Kat010]

And then there's this, from Schrunk:

""We're hoping for a resolution but as it gets longer, and the net widens...with more leads.., we need to spend more time," Schrunk said.
"

Six weeks into this. My comment--why didn't the net widen, and why weren't more leads followed up a few weeks ago? I'm seeing tunnel vision here.

DY has called Terri a liar, for "seven years." I truly think it's significant that LE is now suddenly contradicting the KH/DY pressers and statements.

Lie detector tests aren't solid gold. So far, we have KH's interpretation of TH's activities there (if I missed something, please point it out). She got stressed and distressed and walked out of the second one, right? (Searching memory, so much in this case!) I'm not sure about a third.

A lie detector test frankly, isn't much more than a springboard for LE to use to sharpen an investigation's focus and get new ideas. It doesn't truly discover who's lying about what and in what way and how much they're lying.

 

[soldiermedic335]

Right. There's no way to know what is going on behind the scenes. We're just kicking around the possible scenarios.

I do think it's safe to say, though, that LE would not want to alienate Terri more than necessary if they think they can get something from her, regardless whether she's truly cooperative.

Though I agree with you, until an official LE statement is made. We cannot rule out anyone right now. We have no facts on this case.

 

[Sherbie]

LE didn't make that statement. KH did. I don't remember him being an "official spokesman" for MCSO.

On the other hand, it would be pretty brazen of KH/DY/TY to make such a claim if it were untrue, knowing that LE could easily refute them and show them to be liars.

 

[Sherbie]

Though I agree with you, until an official LE statement is made. We cannot rule out anyone right now. We have no facts on this case.

Absolutely. Until we hear otherwise from LE, no one is ever ruled out.

 

[debs]

It's particularly interesting to note that the last thing Kaine or Desiree said about Terri was after he was successful in ousting her from their home. It would almost appear to be "mission accomplished" by all the negative statements regarding her.