UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #19

[Blonderabbit]

I was all into your theory... esp when I saw the address had a DARK GREY DOOR back in AUG 2008 and had become a BLUE door in OCT 2009. It would be a great way of getting rid of any DNA that hit the door (by replacing the door). I also saw a PILE OF LEAVES that may be giving you dead-body-vibes. Nice spot though. Not dismissed it... I mean you could hide a body in those leaves 50/50.
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<modsnip> the body is to the north of the blue door - its actually in Claudias front garden behind the wall

 

[Blonderabbit]

Leaves falling in March? But yes, as you note - the door was repainted between August 2008 and October 2009, though my guess from the bus images is that it was already blue by March 2009. And the whole door was replaced between 2012 and September 2014 - by which time press articles had noted the removal of two doors from the Acomb pub. But it could of course have happened at any point during those two years.

Just to note also - the point indicated in my post was inside the front yard of number 50 rather than the pathway in front of number 48 - per the streetview image below:

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look at your image you posted last night again the body is to the north of the blue door - its not leaves it is Claudias body - and its in Claudias front garden behind the wall

 

[shadwell]

look at your image you posted last night again the body is to the north of the blue door - its not leaves it is Claudias body - and its in Claudias front garden behind the wall

You’re going to have to outline it for me on the image, because I don’t see any of them that show inside the front yard of 46.

 

[Blonderabbit]

You’re going to have to outline it for me on the image, because I don’t see any of them that show inside the front yard of 46.

ok will do give me a min

 

[Blonderabbit]

You’re going to have to outline it for me on the image, because I don’t see any of them that show inside the front yard of 46.

 

[Blonderabbit]

Leaves falling in March? But yes, as you note - the door was repainted between August 2008 and October 2009, though my guess from the bus images is that it was already blue by March 2009. And the whole door was replaced between 2012 and September 2014 - by which time press articles had noted the removal of two doors from the Acomb pub. But it could of course have happened at any point during those two years.

Just to note also - the point indicated in my post was inside the front yard of number 50 rather than the pathway in front of number 48 - per the streetview image below:

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see on this pic - see the blue door - what i believe to be claudias body is on the other side of the wall to the north in the front garden of 46 behind the wall to the left of claudias front door, what i dont understand is i cannot see that white box on the wall - is it an electric box - obviously wasnt there in 2009

 

[shadwell]

OK, got it. To my eye that’s outside the front yard on the pavement. The main problem I have with it is that a large section of the nearside wing of the Ranger would have to have disappeared for a body to be visible there.

 

[Miss Elizabeth]

see on this pic - see the blue door - what i believe to be claudias body is on the other side of the wall to the north in the front garden of 46 behind the wall to the left of claudias front door, what i dont understand is i cannot see that white box on the wall - is it an electric box - obviously wasnt there in 2009

Would be interested to know if there's any footage from the following day showing the same location - see if there's anything there or if whatever is there in this shot is gone.

~ E

 

[shadwell]

see on this pic - see the blue door - what i believe to be claudias body is on the other side of the wall to the north in the front garden of 46 behind the wall to the left of claudias front door, what i dont understand is i cannot see that white box on the wall - is it an electric box - obviously wasnt there in 2009

Yes, the meter box is there (arrowed, below) partially obscured by the wall and appears in the same place in all streetview images going back to 2008.

 

[Ergs]

Yes, the meter box is there (arrowed, below) partially obscured by the wall and appears in the same place in all streetview images going back to 2008.

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When was the missing door of the meter box replaced?

 

[Blonderabbit]

OK, got it. To my eye that’s outside the front yard on the pavement. The main problem I have with it is that a large section of the nearside wing of the Ranger would have to have disappeared for a body to be visible there.

Shadwell this is not on the pavement - this is inside the front of 46 - it’s behind the front wall. I’m 100% sure - I’m so sure I’m thinking how has no one seen it before?

 

[shadwell]

When was the missing door of the meter box replaced?

It was always there, just open in the August 2008 streetview.

 

[shadwell]

Shadwell this is not on the pavement - this is inside the front of 46 - it’s behind the front wall. I’m 100% sure - I’m so sure I’m thinking how has no one seen it before?

I disagree. The walls of the yard of 46 HR and the brick pillar are visible behind it, as I outlined previously.

 

[Ergs]

It was always there, just open in the August 2008 streetview.

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Who lived at No 48 - flying lease hold - shared loft space?

 

[Blonderabbit]

It was always there, just open in the August 2008 streetview.

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This is a good shot as you can see how big that front garden is and the height of the wall - as you look through the open gateway that’s where she is - under the window - a point is it was 9.01pm on the 18th March before the clocks went forward so quite dark and the perps have probably thought they were working under the cover of darkness - unfortunately I think this is a chink in their armour and the wheels are about to come off

 

[Popejohn3]

Would be interested to know if there's any footage from the following day showing the same location - see if there's anything there or if whatever is there in this shot is gone.

~ E

You would think other buses even the same bus would have captured the area minus vehicles and people

 

[shadwell]

This is a good shot as you can see how big that front garden is and the height of the wall - as you look through the open gateway that’s where she is - under the window - a point is it was 9.01pm on the 18th March before the clocks went forward so quite dark and the perps have probably thought they were working under the cover of darkness - unfortunately I think this is a chink in their armour and the wheels are about to come off

… whereas to my eye what you are describing is positioned as shown below - or would be were it not in a place obscured by the nearside wing of the Ranger.

 

[Blonderabbit]

I disagree. The walls of the yard of 46 HR and the brick pillar are visible behind it, as I outlined previously.

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I can see this is what you see - I’m not seeing that. I think the angle in which you’d view the pavement over the ranger from a bus would have to be much steeper to allow what you see to be correct. I think it’s a bit of an optical illusion because of the blend between the colours of the wall and the darkness. The body is in her front garden in my view. You need someone who can look at it forensically - perhaps NYP - though if it turns out to be of any significance - you just cannot understand it being missed. I saw it as soon as you said last night about the offside wing - couldn’t see anything on the offside wing but then that hit me

 

[Blonderabbit]

… whereas to my eye what you are describing is positioned as shown below - or would be were it not in a place obscured by the nearside wing of the Ranger.

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No. Not in my view

 

[Blonderabbit]

… whereas to my eye what you are describing is positioned as shown below - or would be were it not in a place obscured by the nearside wing of the Ranger.

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Tell you what - forget the position for a min - do you agree it looks like a body?