2011.04.06 Frye Hearing Thread

[wenwe4]

The LIBS exam had nothing to do with the adipocere identification. Adipocere was in the paper towels and LIBS had to do with staining in the carpet.

 

[Jetaime]

JB finished.

HJP:

"Madam court reporter, do you need a break"? lol

 

[darnudes]

OMG...I just took a smoke break, went to the bathroom and chatted with people....and JB is still talking????????????????????????????????????????

I checked on the kids, made breakfast, tided up and yep - still talking lol

 

[TiaM]

Great, now DT making a sticky note to self: File more motions

 

[Aedrys]

Save us, JA! Save us!!!! What is he saying?

 

[logicalgirl]

JA admitting the Defense made an "involuntary mistake"....

 

[missyjane77]

I love that JA is pointing out things that aren't in the motion and is asking the court to disregard those things.

 

[Eidetic]

Ashton calm, collected, focused and refusing to address some of JB's arguments that had nothing to do with what we are here for today
Even asked the court to disregard.

 

[costalpilot]

BBM

Well yes.

Some other defense attorney said much the same sort of same stuff about DNA while facing Jeff Ashton as the opposing council. JA won that argument back then too. He was the first prosecutor to get DNA evidence in.
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

that is awesome and ironic as all heck.

thanks for that.:great::great::great:

 

[cloud9]

I think JA should start with the classic My Cousin Vinny line - "everything that guy just said is BS".

Nuff said.

Well said!

 

[Softail]

JA asking for a bunch of what JB said to be disregarded by the court, since it had nothing to do with the motion. He won't address it.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Prosecutor is fantastic, speaking to the judge in lawyer speak as opposed to Jose speaking to the judge like he's an idiot without a "science hat",

 

[wenwe4]

JA bringing home the most recent court rulings on the issue of Frye

Marsh and Value make clear anaylsis of frye is not general agreement/acceptance

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

The judge is going to have to set a time limit on the DT to stop this mindless rambling.

 

[Chiquita71]

JA: libs has nothing to do with apodecear(I can't spell it I will look it up later...). Defense is confused. I will not address because not in their motion. sixth amendment is not reference. that matter is not before the court and will not address it.

mid to later portion is not contained in motion. no citation with expert witnesses, ask court to disregard it. it is surprising to me in this date and age anyone can address frye and not bring up castillo and (?) these are the most recent rulings by the florida surpreme court...

they clear up many of the arguments the defense attempts to bring up.

IMHO: i am an iconoclast and a free spirit but even I had faith that the system had already covered the different things that are variables in cases like this: with science etc. There have to be agreed upon basics and Jose is arguing them, I guess hoping everyone is less clever than he might have believed.

 

[darnudes]

Oh wow....Mr Ashton is amazing, I love him! Could listen to him all day.

 

[eaglemom]

JA - analysis of Frye is not analysis of conclusions of expert per March and Castillo those are recent court cases in FL (I think I got that right)

 

[FaerieB]

Had to go pick up my DIL and missed 95% of JB's closing...gee, I'm upset...NOT!

 

[missyjane77]

Dr. Vass is required reading! Love it!

 

[wenwe4]

JA saying Dr. Vass is the leading expert in the US, nobody in US has studied it as much - failure to cite his work in a disartation or thesis would be a major mistake. Because he is not a chemist is overly simplistic. . . . . in this case