2011.07.01 TRIAL Day Thirty-three (Afternoon Session)

[Nore]

are they talking about "Za Skull" again?

Yes they are. This could be important as proving
Dr.G. did not do a shoddy job. I knew I read somewhere
the femur was scraped,skull contents checked..(Senior moment).

 

[fifteen89]

Wow JB comes up and starts talking about the femur bone just what JB had stopped the witness talking about earlier due to JB earlier objection

JA objected

HHJP: if you open the door I will allow the state to go into it

JB: can we have a sidebar so I can explain please

HHJP: sure come on.

I thought he said JA opened the door, no?
ETA: JA objected and JP said: If you open the door, they have the right to go through it.

 

[faefrost]

I like Dr Goldberger. He seems so nice and polite.

Yeah, he lacks that creepy Dr. Frankenstein feel of pretty much all of the defense experts.( except the crazy grief lady, who is in a class all her own.)

 

[norcat]

Yep. I am with you. I had not seen any video/footage of GA over the years...so I really had no opinion. But from what I have seen in the last month I think he loved his granddaughter.....so much. He may have lied about the affair?? IDK. But he is very sincere in his love for Caylee and even Casey. But I don't think he lied for ICA. I do think CA did. Well I guess they just proved that!

GA seems truthful and sincere in his love for his family - especially Caylee. He is heart broken, IMO.

MOO.

Agree, Caylee was his "world"....she is what made life bearable for him.

 

[MissSallyAnnie]

And if she's this angry now, what will her reaction be when the verdict is read?

 

[kjpaw]

All of us at Gentiva worked together in a work sharing program. We gave each other our passwords and covered for each other on a regular basis. If we had to leave the office for some personal business we just got someone to cover. We were all salaried and our manager knew what we were doing. That is why I enjoyed working there so much.

I would NEVER let anyone else use my log-in...what if they made a huge mistake (particularly in health care huge could mean life ending for a patient) and it was made under your password. I just can't imagine wanting to be covered for enough to risk that...I don't believe CA who seems to have some controlling aspects to her personality allowing that to ever happen.

 

[Athinker2]

The sad thing is I totally believe that before all this, CA was an upstanding employee.

perhaps JMO I was thinking poss a bully, my way or the highway type personality based on what I have seen over the last 3 yrs

 

[nursebeeme]

does anyone know if the defense can call their own surrerebuttal witnesses???

 

[marie-chantal]

Why is there NO reaction from ICA when they aretalking about her babys SKULL and decomp??????? She looks at the screen as if they are talking about new shoes. My face and eyeballs would be swoolen, my nose dripping and red from crying hysterically

My thoughts exactly! We had to put one of our cats to sleep last year when his heart started failing (he was 15) and when the vet called to tell me that his cremated remains were ready for me to pick up, I lost it hearing those words "cremated remains" (and this was an elderly cat-we knew it was time to end his suffering). I cannot imagine how someone could coldly sit there hearing about the remains of a murdered child and not lose it. :banghead:

 

[pipkins]

KBelichWFTV: Defense expert Dr. Werner Spitz accused medical examiner of failing to test the sediment in skull.. And failing to cut it open.. [via Twitter]

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I think he will talk about test not done on the femur bone now.

 

[jharres]

Are they not going to call Cindy back to call her on her lies?

They don't need to. It's plain as day.

 

[Sleuth5]

Now we will see if JB knows what to do when the door is opened and he is in the room.

Yes, but will he be able to find his way out?

 

[gitana1]

CA had no choice, she had already told the lie in 2008 2009 in transcribed interviews and depos. Not making excuses for her, just saying. Thinking Lippman could have tried to use that limited immunity before she got on the stand to save lying under oath, fix the mess first?

I know I'm behind but CA's testimony at trial was quite a bit different, more detailed and more exculpatory for casey than at depo.

My own feelings about Cindy have been ever-changing. I have felt something close to hatred, anger, sympathy and then now I have settled on pity.

She is a broken person who will be haunted by what she tried to pull. While I am glad her lies have helped accentuate her daughters premeditation.

She is pitiful and I do have pity.

I agree. I have been infuriated with her. She has driven me crazy with her flat out lies and ludicrous statements. But she is a disturbed individual in an untenable situation. People state: "Oh, I'd throw my kid to the wolves if they did that." But it's easy to say from behind a computer screen. No one can really say what it would feel like and how they would react with 100% certainty. Add dysfunction to the whole scenario and it's even worse.

She loved both Caylee and casey. She held, rocked, fed and soothed both children. I cannot imagine what it would be like.

Would i lie to save my child from death? Even if they were guilty? I think that my brain would make it hard to believe my child was guilty, even with proof. But, would I lie?

I have thought about horrible situations like this before. Usually, I have wondered what I would do if one my brothers was a child molester.

I come from a very, very tight family. My family is my entire life. Without them, I am dead. I am also very loyal to my family. You don't air dirty laundry and you don't turn family in.

So, my solution has always been that if I thought one of my brothers hurt a child, I would take them out myself.

If I was in this situation, I think I would have killed casey in her sleep when she was out on bail, and then myself. Truly, that's what I think I would have done.

Kind of like the mom in the Bad Seed. I understood that.

 

[cityslick]

Unconditional love would mean making sure my child (if he committed such a horrible act) Would pay for HIS actions and making sure the victim received justice.

I'm sorry, but my idea of paying for their actions doesn't mean put the needle in them. LWOP yes. But not death. I cannot have my child put to death, I don't care what they did.

I am not saying it's ok to lie on the stand BTW.

 

[allycat1208]

Why was this guy questioned for such a short time by the State?

 

[Shadow5618]

No, Jose, chemicals don't have DNA in them!

 

[newsjunkie]

Why is there NO reaction from ICA when they are talking about her babys SKULL and decomp??????? She looks at the screen as if they are talking about new shoes. My face and eyeballs would be swollen, my nose dripping and red from crying hysterically

Cause you didn't murder your precious baby!

 

[BritsKate]

So sorry! I confused my docs earlier...Dr. Goldberger is the toxicologist and Warren is the anthropologist. I thought it was just the opposite.

 

[ami]

DNA on the BRAIN? Are you kidding? Is JB trying to say that skull wasn't Caylee?