4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #104

[jepop]

Thanks for this clarification. Yep, whether it is SODDI or TODDI, we all pretty much know there is no 'ODDI' in this crime. JMO

In this case it's 'NODDI'.
( no other dude did it).

 

[NoeticSoul]

In this case it's 'NODDI'.
( no other dude did it).

LOL Thanks I needed a laugh today!!!

 

[arielilane]

More info/photos of the house layout on King Rd.

The house on King Road: A look at the Moscow home where four U of I students were killed - East Idaho News

(Idaho Statesman) — At 1122 King Road in Moscow sits a gray six-bedroom, three-bathroom house that continues to be the source of significant national attention. Known as a student rental, the home’s most recent tenants were a group of six University of Idaho undergraduates who signed a 12-month...

www.eastidahonews.com

December 22, 2022

 

[arielilane]

Blueprints show where each Idaho student was found stabbed to death

Unearthed blueprints and layout plans of the off-campus house where four Idaho college students were brutally stabbed to death reveal where each of the friends were found slain earlier this month.

www.dailymail.co.uk

11/29/2022

 

[Chloegirl]

More info/photos of the house layout

I'm very familiar and that is helpful still.

 

[wendy44]

I heard it too. I just can't put my finger on it.

I know this came out recently somewhere because I remember thinking that Murphy could have gone outside and come back in again.

JMO

 

[SteveP]

I know this came out recently somewhere because I remember thinking that Murphy could have gone outside and come back in again.

JMO

IIRC, in one of the reports, a police officer says that when he arrived, he found the door open, but he did not specify whether he was talking about the front door, which certainly was likely open, as BF, DM, AE, and HJ had probably gone out that door after calling 9-1-1, or whether he was talking about the slider, which is what I got the sense that he was referring to, but not certain. I do recall that early on, a neighbor was rumored to have stated that the front door was wide open at around 8am, but AFAIK, that was unfounded. JMO

 

[wendy44]

The alternate suspect thing is standard; they'll have to meet the burden prior to trial though.

The judge was always going to allow the defense to try and make an alibi out of the data point prior to his phone going dark. It's useless, but you can't cripple them by not allowing that.

Of course the defense was going to be allowed to ask Balance about those records. He'll say the same thing the state has said, and that will be that.

The Amazon click activity is MASSIVE evidence. I don't know how anyone can say that it was "low value." It will solidify not only the initial purchase, but demonstrate his efforts to purchase a replacement. All of that goes to showing that the sheath found at the murder scene is his, which the DNA already demonstrates.

Absolutely nothing occurred at that hearing that was unexpected, in my view.

When you look at all the motions filed by the defense before this hearing--they fought for practically every last scrap of evidence and testimony to be excluded. And the only "wins" they really got so far were things the prosecution was fine with, like not using sociopath or psychopath, or excluding testimony they weren't going to put on anyway. They did their jobs, but it's not proof that this was not actual evidence and should be excluded, it's just proof of a robust defense.

The Amazon click activity is incredibly incriminating. It also came out at this hearing that his clicks show him tracking the shipment and delivery of the knife/sheath/sharpener. The Amazon click activity ties him to the object at the scene where his DNA was found. The Amazon click activity shows intent and planning. The Amazon click activity shows him shopping for another knife right after the murders. It shows ongoing actions during this time period and tells a story beyond the receipt of the purchase.

As for the defense complaints about blowing deadlines--their primary example was regarding expert testimony and even the judge reminded them that he did ask the parties to supplement their disclosures (after defense complaints about the original disclosures) and said he would be flexible on the deadlines to allow for that. They are seeking a "remedy" of removing the death penalty and they're looking at every possible thing for that remedy.

Everything the defense does or files or says in court is not proof of that thing actually being true. It's just proof of a good defense.

JMO

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I agree that AT does not want him formally tested. I think she knows that even if he is found to be somewhere on the spectrum, there might be other diagnoses within a cluster. Some that could indicate a tendency towards this kind of violent behaviour perhaps?

He has a graduate degree, even if it wasn't from a top institution. Lots of people on the spectrum have PhD. My own highly subjective and personal take on this is that most people who go down a lifetime rabbit hole studying Anglo-Saxon literature or midges that live in water or Civil War history have an usual capacity for focus on one thing (while perhaps continuing to forget where you left your keys). So people on the spectrum can demonstrate capacity for very high functioning. And like ALL humans, some may have a tendency to be violent.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

He has a graduate degree, even if it wasn't from a top institution. Lots of people on the spectrum have PhDs. My own highly subjective and personal take on this is that most people who go down a lifetime rabbit hole studying Anglo-Saxon literature or midges that live in water or Civil War history have an unusual capacity for focus on one thing (while perhaps continuing to forget where they eft their keys). So people on the spectrum can demonstrate capacity for very high functioning. And like ALL humans, some may have a tendency to be violent.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

BBM
Consistent with my experience as a juror (multiple cases and in every case).
JMO

I think this is more likely in a case with lower stakes (a murder with circumstantial evidence) or a burglary, etc.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856799893844889804

 

[sunshineray]

I don't think BK cares one bit about the DP and the case passed farce in these latest rounds of hearings. WTH?? Poor little Bry Bry, he can't tie his shoes and writes his 5 upside down. Give me a break.

JMO

That's what velcro and loafers were invented for, people who either just don't want to bother to learn or simply have a problem with fine dexterity. Are his lawyers actually trying to use his unwillingness or inability to tie his shoes as a reason he shouldn't get the DP? Well that and his struggle to button his shirt?

 

[Megnut]

That's what velcro and loafers were invented for, people who either just don't want to bother to learn or simply have a problem with fine dexterity. Are his lawyers actually trying to use his unwillingness or inability to tie his shoes as a reason he shouldn't get the DP? Well that and his struggle to button his shirt?

Yup.

Physically unable to commit the crime.

Cognitively unable to participate in his defense, unable to present well if he were to testify.

And the jury will convict him of weirdness unless AT can prepare them for it.

JMO

 

[sunshineray]

Judge: Complex litigation generally when your in the expert phase I mean thats not unusual

AT: I guess your honor I think its unusual when deadlines are blown by the State um or not adhered to by the State and our client pays the price for that. So I do think it is unusual, its unusual to receive discovery......

AT: I know we discussed a sizable amount of recent discovery we had gotten, those issues prior to this Court taking over. We had talked about the way discovery was being received um early on in the case. We filed discovery request after discovery request in addition to talking about the mismatched way discovery was received. That has been put on the record. My hope was with the States discovery deadline, with that cut off date, that we'd be able to pull it together. My hope has been that until these new things have happened to shift us off the course we were on.

Getting more people to review the discovery doesn't cure the problem the D has encountered with the discovery being produced piecemeal and deadlines not being met.

AT explained the circumstances when she took SMs case.
The D has met their deadlines despite AT handling two cases.
Does the State have too many cases and is that why they are not meeting deadlines?
The State was not ready with the self authentication certifications.
What has the State been doing for 2.5 years?
JMO


I thought she handled herself well.
JMO

Which just supports what the D argued about BKs presentation of ASD.
JMO

The motions she is filing are normal.
The only side that has mentioned a delay is the P.
During the last hearing, the D said that delaying the trial was not an acceptable remedy.
JMO

She took on a second DP case in the midst of representing a client accused, with direct evidence, of murdering in cold blood 4 young and vital college kids!? I'd say that's a bit negligent of her. Wouldn't you? Well unless her plan is to plea soon and not go to trial?

 

[al66pine]

Not just ordinary weirdness.

Yup.

Physically unable to commit the crime.

Cognitively unable to participate in his defense, unable to present well if he were to testify.

And the jury will convict him of weirdness unless AT can prepare them for it.

JMO

@Megnut

Weirdness in the First Degree. Multiple counts.

imo

 

[Sachi]

Whose bedroom is C?

 

[arielilane]

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger​

Ada County CR01-24-31665

Current Case Summary

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

4/14/2025

• NewRedacted Defendants Response to States First Supplemental Request for Discovery
• NewOrder Sealing Defendants Response to States First Supplemental Request for Discovery

4/11/2025

• NewStipulated Motion to Seal Defendants Response to States First Supplemental Request for Discovery

Live Stream link (when applicable)

Fourth District Court Livestream

coi.isc.idaho.gov

 

[Megnut]

Whose bedroom is C?

XK

 

[arielilane]

Took another look and it appears that DM’s room on 2nd Floor East/South
XK room on 2nd floor North/West

moo

Correction needed if this is incorrect.