4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #105

[arielilane]

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger​

Ada County CR01-24-31665

Current Case Summary

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

4/23/2025

• NewOrder Sealing States Response to Defendants Proposed Jury Instructions

4/20/2025

• NewMotion to Seal States Response to Defendants Proposed Jury Instructions

 

[Balthazar]

AT says a lot of things...

Yes and when she makes a statement like that in court, we know it is true. BT didn't object to what she said or claim otherwise. So it is a fact.

 

[PinkParis2052]

AT said it was one single footprint and no others.

the PCA said that too.




source:
Exhibit A iil) ' 'Fo Statement of Brett Payne

 

[INfisherman]

Maybe more footprints were found during additional crime scene processings, as the PCA states this latent shoe print was found during the second go around. It could be they have more than one, for all anyone knows at this point. Only one has been revealed by the state. I doubt any prosecutor is going to fully reveal all their cards or trial strategy in preliminary hearings. They’re only going to reveal enough to suppress motions filed by the defense or as required by an order from the court.

AT has argued that DNA left at a crime scene shouldn’t be constitutional for probable cause. That was not a fact. So not everything she says is true.

ETA MOO, "…or as required by an order…"

 

[Megnut]

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger​

Ada County CR01-24-31665

Current Case Summary

State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

4/23/2025

• NewOrder Sealing States Response to Defendants Proposed Jury Instructions

4/20/2025

• NewMotion to Seal States Response to Defendants Proposed Jury Instructions

I cleared my schedule, made sure I was caught up on all my other threads, poured myself an adult beverage (Diet Coke), popped an anticipatory ibuprofen, and readied myself to read today's document dump late into the evening.

One minute later, I'm done.

That wasn't at all satisfying.

I was looking forward to a fresh discussion.

I guess I'll review the Defense motions Judge Hippler DENIED. And take up Origami.

 

[Megnut]

Anybody know how big Sy Ray's software blob is? Even if he puts BK's phone at the farthest reaches of distance BK could travel in seven minutes and then the farthest reaches from there his blob goes, can he out BK so far out that he couldn't be .3 miles from 1122 King Road a whole hour later? Guess that must be where the partial alibi comes in. Like BK's left foot was waaaaaaaaaaaaay over there. Or at least whichever foot didn't leave the partial print. #stretcharmstrong

What is a partial alibi anyway? They can partially corroborate where BK was at 2:50? Unless Sy Ray can put BK in Tennessee, I still don't see how his whereabouts at 2:50 provide him any portion of an alibi for 4:10.

I'm reminding myself how adament, how indignant AT was when she said BK was driving around, just not over there, and couldn't be over there because his phone was south and east of Moscow.

Because now I know that that's where his phone was when he turned it off. And if I know that, AT knows that.

AFAIK no one knows where BK's phone was from 2:54 until he formed it back on, towards 5am. We just know it was off. Conserving 90% battery. Ahem Chances are good it was in the Elantra with BK the whole time, conveniently unable to connect with any towers. Sy Ray can't fix that.

JMO

 

[Boxer]

This is what the Judge said in his order:

Further, THE FACT the footprint was located only in one spot and there were not others before and after it does not make Detective Payne's statement false about the path of travel

page 30

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/021925-Order-Defedants-Moton-Franks-Hearing.pdf

100% agree @SteveP. AT knows she could’ve requested their own testing on the handrail blood but didn’t want to spend the money and resources knowing it would go nowhere/not lead to the ‘real killer’ as I believe she likely knows the real killer is sitting next to her in court, well lately he’s been sitting a seat or two away from her lol.

At any rate yes I agree, she wants to be able to mention it at trial that it could’ve been left by the ‘real killer’ for reasonable doubt purposes. Defense strategy 101. She can try but I’m sure the state will explain and make clear that the blood on the handrail was collected, investigated and ruled out as having any connection to the crime.

IMHOO

The random blood is more valuable to her as an ope question for her question pile.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Yes and when she makes a statement like that in court, we know it is true. BT didn't object to what she said or claim otherwise. So it is a fact.

She did not say there were no other footprints anywhere else in the house. Just one at that specific place.

 

[Warwick7]

By the time he saw D, he could be right to worry she could also not be alone and have a partner or friend in her room too and decided to flee instead.

Snipped by me.

I had never thought about this. What a good point. If he did see her, he could not bank on her being alone. At that point he must have been very exhausted.

 

[Ghostwheel]

RSBM.... Unless Sy Ray can put BK in Tennessee, I still don't see how his whereabouts at 2:50 provide him any portion of an alibi for 4:10.
RSBM

THAT would be worth waiting for, IMO.

 

[Warwick7]

There were no fingerprints from BK within the crime scene and no other BK DNA anywhere in 1122. <modsnip: Removed rumor>

How can there be BK's fingerprints anywhere in that crime scene?? He was covered from head to toe in black garb. For all we know he could have been wearing cut resistant gloves.

 

[Warwick7]

Yes and when she makes a statement like that in court, we know it is true. BT didn't object to what she said or claim otherwise. So it is a fact.

Who is BT??

 

[Warwick7]

AT said it was one single footprint and no others.

AT also said BK is confident he will be exonerated. That's not going to happen. M00

 

[Megnut]

Who is BT??

Prosecutor Bill Thompson

Who isn't trying the State's case in the court of public opinion nor at hearings. Saving the case in chief for trial.

JMO

 

[Nila Aella]

The random blood is more valuable to her as an ope question for her question pile.

The D had no hesitation in testing the fingernail mixture using cybergenetics.
Excluded BK.
The P came back and evaluated the testing - which was confirmed by their expert. Additional testing using true allele was performed by the P. Excluded BK.

Maybe the D has tested more than just the fingernail mixture?
JMO

 

[MassGuy]

The random blood is more valuable to her as an ope question for her question pile.

Absolutely. It’s like the degraded touch dna sample in the Morphew case.

They never want an answer to who that DNA belongs to, as it would close that avenue to reasonable doubt.

Here, AT and crew do not want that blood identified, and would almost certainly let it be as opposed to performing there own testing (assuming there is even something they could do).

 

[Warwick7]

We don't know that for a fact. We seem to have a circumstantial case where not all of the circumstances were taken into consideration:

Unknown male blood on the bannister
Unknown male DNA under MM's fingernail
Unknown male blood on the glove just outside the house

Why is the unknown male blood less important than a miniscule amount of touch DNA on the sheath?

Just like the the unknown hair wrapped around Abby's finger in the Delphi slaughter. The defense's opening statement meant to shock, awe and promote doubt. We were all meant to go "ohhh" "wowww"...

Immediately everyone was talking about the fact that Abby was wearing Liberty sister's jacket. And that the hair came from her it was a no-brainer it was a dud. And that is exactly what it turned out to be.

At trial this whole unknown unknown unknown, will turn out to be a dud. It will fall flat because in own opinion it has no weight.

Mark this post. Because this banister, glove and nails are going no where.

 

[SteveP]

We are still waiting for Judge Hippler to issue rulings on the Defense motion to strike the death penalty, and the admissibility of text messages and 911 call audio. Any other biggies?

 

[Nila Aella]

We are still waiting for Judge Hippler to issue rulings on the Defense motion to strike the death penalty, and the admissibility of text messages and 911 call audio. Any other biggies?

Amazon Click
JMO

 

[Warwick7]

To add, just because AT says things doesn’t mean they’re true or even based on case law or legal precedent either. I believe the judge has reminded her a few times of things she’s claimed which weren’t based on case law, precedent or probable cause. Frank’s hearing anyone?

Hence JH’s "every day & twice on Sunday" statement to AT.

BBM
Yep! And when it happens I get embarrassed for her.