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He is also going to be testifying in the Samantha Murphy case - in the trial against Patrick Stephenson. He is apparently quite the expert.
Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #10 *Arrest*
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He is also going to be testifying in the Samantha Murphy case - in the trial against Patrick Stephenson. He is apparently quite the expert.
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Yeah I will for now.
abc.net.au live blog:
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Dr Sorell says phones or devices like iPads and smartwatches try to connect to the best mobile phone "base station".
This process can result in devices constantly looking for the best stations, to the point where they’re being a bit greedy, the professor says.
"It will constantly seek out the best service available," he says.
The doctor is getting deep into the technical aspects of base stations — how many antennas they have and the directions they’re pointed in.
"The base station is the piece of infrastructure, it has antennas on it, and those antennas provide for a radio connection," Dr Sorell says.
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Base stations explained
By Judd Boaz
Dr Sorell says phones or devices like iPads and smartwatches try to connect to the best mobile phone "base station".
This process can result in devices constantly looking for the best stations, to the point where they’re being a bit greedy, the professor says.
"It will constantly seek out the best service available," he says.
The doctor is getting deep into the technical aspects of base stations — how many antennas they have and the directions they’re pointed in.
"The base station is the piece of infrastructure, it has antennas on it, and those antennas provide for a radio connection," Dr Sorell says.
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Sorell says he provided a number of reports for the case. He says his focus for this case has been on Telstra towers.
He says mobile phones connect to the base station that has the best connection, which can change. He says:
He says:
Sorell says he provided a number of reports for the case. He says his focus for this case has been on Telstra towers.
He says mobile phones connect to the base station that has the best connection, which can change. He says:
He says a base station typically involves three antennas which each point in directions “about 120 degrees apart”.
He says:
The jury is shown a diagram of base stations around Korumburra.
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How do phones connect to base stations?
By Kristian Silva
As this telecommunications masterclass continues, Dr Sorell reaches into his blue folder to retrieve a diagram of base stations from the Korumburra region.
Korumburra is the town near Erin Patterson’s home in Leongatha.
The diagram is shown to the court.
Five base stations are visible: Loch South on the far left of the diagram; to the centre are Holmes Hill and Korumburra; with Arawata and Kardella on the right.
Each of the stations have slightly different antenna setups, which the phones can connect to. But things like hills and buildings can be obstructive, leading to a phone choosing to pick a station that isn’t closest to it.
“The one that wins will be the one with the best quality signal,” he says.
Dr Sorell says if a phone is moving around, it may flicker back and forth between different base stations as it searches for a better signal.
How do phones connect to base stations?
By Kristian Silva
As this telecommunications masterclass continues, Dr Sorell reaches into his blue folder to retrieve a diagram of base stations from the Korumburra region.
Korumburra is the town near Erin Patterson’s home in Leongatha.
The diagram is shown to the court.
Five base stations are visible: Loch South on the far left of the diagram; to the centre are Holmes Hill and Korumburra; with Arawata and Kardella on the right.
Each of the stations have slightly different antenna setups, which the phones can connect to. But things like hills and buildings can be obstructive, leading to a phone choosing to pick a station that isn’t closest to it.
“The one that wins will be the one with the best quality signal,” he says.
Dr Sorell says if a phone is moving around, it may flicker back and forth between different base stations as it searches for a better signal.
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That's a great point Cartie. Do we know when she made the mushroom brownies? Potentially before the dehydrator purchase. Regardless, you could argue that she was experimenting with mushroom powder, what it tastes like it recipes without mushroom, whether it was detectable in any way. With regular, edible mushrooms of course because she wouldn't want her kids sick.
If she did not have a dehydrator until April 28th, yet was still able to dehydrate mushrooms, then one could say that there was a reason why she chose to buy one then. Right after having visited a location known to have death caps. 2 1/2 hours to be exact. It could just be a case of finding something like the oven method cumbersome and wanted to move onto something quicker & easier. Or, you could suggest that she had a plan, a plan to forage and dry death cap mushrooms. You would not want to put death caps in your regular oven, the one you cook family meals in, bake brownies for your kids etc. That can suggest a motive.
Shortened by me. In this case, I believe members of Simon's family, along with Simon and Erin, were known to regularly forage for mushrooms. I think they even did this together, like a family outing. If this was a shared activity, but even if they enjoyed the same hobby but alone, I would imagine this might come up during the meal. The meal was described as delicious by some of the guests, and I can imagine that could open up the conversation to where the mushrooms came from.
Imaginary potential conversation:
Guest #1: "This is delicious Erin, you're such a great cook"
Erin: "Thanks so much. I think it's all in the ingredients though. I foraged the mushrooms from XYZ Reserve, the place we foraged together last year. They grow in such perfect conditions there."
If guests share a common hobby, it wouldn't be odd to me to talk about that over lunch. Just like if I brought my car to a mechanic friend to diagnose a problem. If we shared an interest in cars, we might talk about how the diff needs replacing, the shockers are shocking and what our thoughts are on the latest model of XYZ and the fact it doesn't get great mileage. If not, I imagine the topic of conversation would be about the weather, how the kids are going, what they're doing on the weekend etc.
'Knew what to pick': Source's bombshell claim about mushroom cook
A new development in the case of the deadly mushroom poisoning that claimed three lives in Victoria has exposed the woman who cooked the lunch as an experience forager.
www.skynews.com.au
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A brief history of telecommunication networks
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By Kristian Silva
The cell coverage area of a base station is about 40 kilometres, Dr Sorell says.
In country areas, base stations are deliberately placed to provide signals to towns, on key roads or for wider coverage from hilltops.
The doctor launches into a quick history lesson, explaining how the old 2G networks were basically only for phone calls.
“Some of us remember those Nokia phones of the late 1990s, where you could make a phone call and that’d be about it,” he says.
With 4G and 5G, things are much more advanced and results in lots of records being generated that can be analysed.
A brief history of telecommunication networks
K
By Kristian Silva
The cell coverage area of a base station is about 40 kilometres, Dr Sorell says.
In country areas, base stations are deliberately placed to provide signals to towns, on key roads or for wider coverage from hilltops.
The doctor launches into a quick history lesson, explaining how the old 2G networks were basically only for phone calls.
“Some of us remember those Nokia phones of the late 1990s, where you could make a phone call and that’d be about it,” he says.
With 4G and 5G, things are much more advanced and results in lots of records being generated that can be analysed.
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Sorell is walking the jury through the map of the towers in the Korumburra area.
He says circles shown on the diagram do not indicate the area of the coverage.
Sorell says the red circle shows the mobile phone handset in question did connect to the antenna at some time.
But he says if the mobile phone connected to one antenna in isolation it is not possible to determine which direction the handset is in.
Sorell is walking the jury through the map of the towers in the Korumburra area.
He says circles shown on the diagram do not indicate the area of the coverage.
Sorell says the red circle shows the mobile phone handset in question did connect to the antenna at some time.
But he says if the mobile phone connected to one antenna in isolation it is not possible to determine which direction the handset is in.
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The court has adjourned for a lunch break.
The trial is expected to resume at 2.15pm.
I bet they need the break!
The court has adjourned for a lunch break.
The trial is expected to resume at 2.15pm.
I bet they need the break!
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I won't be able to do the abc blog when court resumes, any takers?
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User input not necessarily needed, expert says
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Dr Sorell says that a person does not necessarily need to be using their phone for it to connect to a base station and transmit data.
He uses the example of a phone checking for new emails in the background, a task "over which, you as the user, really [have] no control".
"If a device is moving or travelling, what will happen to the connection?" the prosecution asks.
Dr Sorell explains again that phones will "handover" from one set of base stations as the phone travels, despite no interruption in service.
He says a data connection will show a record of these handovers.
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User input not necessarily needed, expert says
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By Judd Boaz
Dr Sorell says that a person does not necessarily need to be using their phone for it to connect to a base station and transmit data.
He uses the example of a phone checking for new emails in the background, a task "over which, you as the user, really [have] no control".
"If a device is moving or travelling, what will happen to the connection?" the prosecution asks.
Dr Sorell explains again that phones will "handover" from one set of base stations as the phone travels, despite no interruption in service.
He says a data connection will show a record of these handovers.
That's a great point Cartie. Do we know when she made the mushroom brownies? Potentially before the dehydrator purchase. Regardless, you could argue that she was experimenting with mushroom powder, what it tastes like it recipes without mushroom, whether it was detectable in any way. With regular, edible mushrooms of course because she wouldn't want her kids sick.
If she did not have a dehydrator until April 28th, yet was still able to dehydrate mushrooms, then one could say that there was a reason why she chose to buy one then. Right after having visited a location known to have death caps. 2 1/2 hours to be exact. It could just be a case of finding something like the oven method cumbersome and wanted to move onto something quicker & easier. Or, you could suggest that she had a plan, a plan to forage and dry death cap mushrooms. You would not want to put death caps in your regular oven, the one you cook family meals in, bake brownies for your kids etc. That can suggest a motive.
Shortened by me. In this case, I believe members of Simon's family, along with Simon and Erin, were known to regularly forage for mushrooms. I think they even did this together, like a family outing. If this was a shared activity, but even if they enjoyed the same hobby but alone, I would imagine this might come up during the meal. The meal was described as delicious by some of the guests, and I can imagine that could open up the conversation to where the mushrooms came from.
Imaginary potential conversation:
Guest #1: "This is delicious Erin, you're such a great cook"
Erin: "Thanks so much. I think it's all in the ingredients though. I foraged the mushrooms from XYZ Reserve, the place we foraged together last year. They grow in such perfect conditions there."
If guests share a common hobby, it wouldn't be odd to me to talk about that over lunch. Just like if I brought my car to a mechanic friend to diagnose a problem. If we shared an interest in cars, we might talk about how the diff needs replacing, the shockers are shocking and what our thoughts are on the latest model of XYZ and the fact it doesn't get great mileage. If not, I imagine the topic of conversation would be about the weather, how the kids are going, what they're doing on the weekend etc.
'Knew what to pick': Source's bombshell claim about mushroom cook
A new development in the case of the deadly mushroom poisoning that claimed three lives in Victoria has exposed the woman who cooked the lunch as an experience forager.
Also from the Skynews linked article:
"A close friend of the Patterson family told Daily Mail Australia she was known for going wild mushroom foraging around Victoria’s Gippsland region along with her ex-partner Simon and other relatives and was “very good” at it."
Skynews
I don't think this close friend of the family has been called up as a witness that I am aware of.
There was another report that I remember of a friend that said she had a library of mushroom books at her home:
Erin Patterson had a 'collection of mushroom books' at her home
Deadly cook Erin Patterson had a collection of books about mushrooms she kept at her home where three people died, Daily Mail Australia has been told.
The testimony from her daughter does not confirm any foraging hobby, but maybe she is too young:
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Daughter says she has never been mushroom picking
By Tim Callanan
The police officer asks Erin's daughter what her favourite food is and she replies "ice cream".
She is asked if, when she cooks with her mother, they ever used mushrooms and she says no.
Erin's daughter says she has never been mushroom picking with her mother and has never seen any wild mushrooms while out with her mother."
and from the son:
"Erin's son is asked if he likes mushrooms and he says he doesn't really like "how squishy and mushy" they are. He says he's never been foraging for mushrooms with his parents."
Erin Patterson took son on hours-long drive despite feeling sick, murder trial hears — as it happened
Erin Patterson is accused of murdering three relatives by serving them a beef Wellington that contained death cap mushrooms. Look back at how the day in court unfolded.
www.abc.net.au
didn't her son say something about his mother taking photos of mushrooms one time? or was that someone else who said that
3. Erin's son recalled a walk "during COVID times" when his mother stopped to take photos of mushrooms "because they looked nice".
3. Erin's son recalled a walk "during COVID times" when his mother stopped to take photos of mushrooms "because they looked nice".
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They will be dreaming of mushrooms
Yes, from the same media link:
"He remembers his mother once taking a photo of mushrooms when they were on a walk "because they looked nice" and it was "a very fond memory in his head".
This was around July or August, 2020 he says. He's not aware of his parents ever picking mushrooms."
I just do not understand why the reports to the media by these "friends" have not testified at the trial yet for the prosecution. Maybe it was incorrect reporting?
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