Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #12 *Arrest*

[MrJ]

I love when the lies get exposed.

Key Event
Just now
Prosecution drills down on Erin's cancer claims

By Joseph Dunstan

Dr Rogers then announces she'd like to take Erin to her "so-called cancer diagnosis" and the court is shown a screenshot of information about metastatic ovarian cancer on a search engine.

When asked if she took a screenshot, Erin says she doesn't remember having the image she's being shown established as a screenshot in the evidence led by the forensic police expert earlier in the trial.

"I remember him saying that he couldn't say what device [this was taken on]," Erin says.

"These photos were cached to your Samsung tablet, however," Dr Rogers says. Erin agrees that appears to be the case.

"I suggest that you conducted an internet search on this topic ... and you took a screenshot of this," Dr Roger says to the accused.

Erin says she can't recall that, before Dr Rogers takes her to another image of a similar search about advanced ovarian cancer that is labelled as being modified in May 2023.

 

[L_B]

This emoji means I am raising my eyes to God... I swear!

 

[katydid23]

It feels like she was on the cusp of the perfect murder. If she just, from day 1, announced "OMG I FED THEM FORAGED MUSHROOMS! YOU DON'T SUPPOSE I MISIDENTIFIED THEM??", then the cops would have had the darndest time proving she intended harm. She could have handed over the contaminated dehydrator, self-submitted all the photos and chats about her experiments with dried mushrooms ("If I intended to kill them, why would I discuss it with my true crime friends?"), seemingly entirely cooperative with the investigation, and I think it would have gone down as a tragic accident (although SP and others may have suspected otherwise).

Foiled by her own deceptive nature.

I agree.

I think the reason she wouldn't admit it at first is two-fold.

One, she didn't want her victims to have the antidote in time.

Two, if she stalled then maybe the toxins would clear before the doctors tested them and her for death caps. In the end, the female victims didn't test positive because they had cleared out of their systems already.

And EP had valid defense for not testing positive because she was not tested in time either.

 

[Gavel Rash]

It was Defense lawyer who used the terms ‘Patterson panicked after the lunch, not because she knew she was guilty of murder ….. but she was so overwhelmed ….

So not Erin’s words

She did ‘panick’ ie photos of mushrooms and dehydrated on phone she did factory reset on

 

[MrJ]

We need an eyeroll emoji every time Erin says anything.

 

[L_B]

We need an eyeroll emoji every time Erin says anything.

What is the eyeroll emoji if not that one?!

 

[drsleuth]

1m ago05.51 BST
Rogers takes Patterson to a Facebook message she sent in a group chat on 6 December 2022.

In the message, Patterson said her in-laws were refusing to adjudicate in a dispute between her and Simon over child support payments.

She also wrote: “This family I swear to god.”

Rogers says Patterson used the “eye roll emoji” after she wrote that Don and Gail’s advice was that Patterson and Simon should pray together.

She takes her to another message and says Patterson has used the “eye rolling emoji”.

Patterson says it is just an emoji with a “straight mouth”. She says: “I don’t know what I’d call it.”

Rogers says Patterson was “mocking” Don and Gail’s advice, including their suggestion that the couple should pray for their children.

Patterson says she was frustrated.

Erin Patterson trial day 27 – as it happened

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www.theguardian.com

 

[Detechtive]

She's even trying to gaslight the emojiverse. IMO

 

[Lisa4]

It occurs to me that the real reason to dehydrate the Death Caps is to hide them (Shrink them in size, pulverize them into powder). Still get the toxins, but not visible. Someone here just said that she tried to commit the perfect murder. Only the experts figured out that the toxins were Death Caps- not her lame excuse that the mushrooms were from Woolworth's and a mystery Asian grocer.

Yes, agree, and also I suspect a key reason for the dehydrator purchase was to use them in late winter when the mushroom season would have been considered long over.

 

[MrJ]

What is the eyeroll emoji if not that one?!

as a Websleuths default reaction

 

[drsleuth]

2.50pm

Patterson grilled over eye-roll emojis on message about Don Patterson​

By​

Senior Crown prosecutor Nanette Rogers has taken Patterson to a message she sent on December 6, 2022, about being told by her father-in-law, Don Patterson, that he could not adjudicate since his son, Simon, would not share his side of the story.

The message, shown to the jury, concluded with two eye-rolling emojis and the sentence: “This family I swear to f----g God”.

“The eye roll emojis was in regard to that being the only solution,” Patterson said.

Rogers showed Patterson another message, in which she wrote that Don had called her the previous night to say there could be a solution to her problem: if she and Simon got together and prayed, followed by two emojis.

Rogers suggested the emojis were also eye-rolling emojis.

“There’s a better eye rolling emoji than this,” Patterson said.

Rogers said she was mocking their advice to her, and part of the mockery was the religious component of her advice.

“I wasn’t mocking, I was frustrated,” Patterson said.

Erin Patterson murder trial day 27 as it happened: ‘You thought the lunch guests would die’: A rare invitation and a ‘lie about cancer’

It was rare for Erin Patterson to host guests; having four people over for a meal was not an ordinary, casual event for the mother of two.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Gavel Rash]

We need an eyeroll emoji every time Erin says anything.

 

[drsleuth]

1 minute ago - 02:53 PMMax Corstorphan

Images shown of ovarian and brain cancer symptoms from Patterson’s devices​

Ms Patterson has been asked about Googling brain disease and ovarian cancer symptoms, something she “remembers” doing.

Ms Patterson has been asked about Googling brain cancer and ovarian cancer symptoms, something she “remembers” doing.

An image was shown to the accused, allegedly a “screenshot” of the information about the symptoms, something she says she “can’t remember” whether she took or not. She disputed that the image was a screenshot, saying she didn’t think that had been “established”.

Ms Patterson agreed that the image showed information on “stage 4A ovarian cancer”.

More images were shown, with additional information about stage 4 ovarian cancer, brain lymphoma symptoms,

The prosecution suggested that the accused accessed the images showing details about the illnesses in May 2023.

“I don’t think I did,” Ms Patterson replied.

Ex ‘would have had beef Wellington too’ if he’d come

LIVE UPDATES: Erin Patterson says she would have served ex-husband Simon Patterson a beef Wellington, too, if he had turned up to the deadly lunch.

thenightly.com.au

 

[JBowie]

I wonder if it's occurred to her yet that it might not have been such a great idea to agree to take the stand.

 

[MrJ]

THE SEMANTICS IS SO FRUSTRATING.

Key Event
1m ago
Prosecution drills down on Erin's cancer claims

By Joseph Dunstan

Dr Rogers then announces she'd like to take Erin to her "so-called cancer diagnosis" and the court is shown a screenshot of information about metastatic ovarian cancer on a search engine.

When asked if she took a screenshot, Erin says she doesn't remember having the image she's being shown established as a screenshot in the evidence led by the forensic police expert earlier in the trial.

"I remember him saying that he couldn't say what device [this was taken on]," Erin says.

"These photos were cached to your Samsung tablet, however," Dr Rogers says. Erin agrees that appears to be the case.

"I suggest that you conducted an internet search on this topic ... and you took a screenshot of this," Dr Roger says to the accused.

Erin says she can't recall that, before Dr Rogers takes her to another image of a similar search about advanced ovarian cancer that is labelled as being modified in May 2023.

 

[LinasK]

What is the eyeroll emoji if not that one?!

Found out that we get some extra ones under More Options, Smilies when you go to reply like these:

 

[Detechtive]

2.50pm

Patterson grilled over eye-roll emojis on message about Don Patterson​

By​

Senior Crown prosecutor Nanette Rogers has taken Patterson to a message she sent on December 6, 2022, about being told by her father-in-law, Don Patterson, that he could not adjudicate since his son, Simon, would not share his side of the story.

The message, shown to the jury, concluded with two eye-rolling emojis and the sentence: “This family I swear to f----g God”.

“The eye roll emojis was in regard to that being the only solution,” Patterson said.

Rogers showed Patterson another message, in which she wrote that Don had called her the previous night to say there could be a solution to her problem: if she and Simon got together and prayed, followed by two emojis.

Rogers suggested the emojis were also eye-rolling emojis.

“There’s a better eye rolling emoji than this,” Patterson said.

Rogers said she was mocking their advice to her, and part of the mockery was the religious component of her advice.

“I wasn’t mocking, I was frustrated,” Patterson said.

Erin Patterson murder trial day 27 as it happened: ‘You thought the lunch guests would die’: A rare invitation and a ‘lie about cancer’

It was rare for Erin Patterson to host guests; having four people over for a meal was not an ordinary, casual event for the mother of two.

www.theage.com.au

 

[LinasK]

She's even trying to gaslight the emojiverse. IMO

Yeah, there's no doing that with the cursing one. Clearly she's beyond frustrated with them- she's pissed.

 

[drsleuth]

1m ago14.57 AEST
Patterson asked about screenshots of cancer information

Rogers takes Patterson to photos, modified in May 2023, that were found on a Samsung tablet police seized from Patterson’s house.

One photo includes text about ovarian cancer. Rogers says the text in the screenshot outlines what happens to the brain of someone with ovarian cancer.

“I suggest you conducted an internet search on this topic,” Rogers says. Patterson agrees.

Patterson says she doesn’t know if she took a screenshot of this.

Another photo shows text about “stage four ovarian cancer”.

Rogers suggests this was an internet search conducted by Patterson. She agrees. Patterson says she doesn’t know if it was a screenshot of this search.

Another photo shows text about brain lymphoma. Patterson says she also does not know if this image is a screenshot.

Erin Patterson trial day 27 – as it happened

This blog is now closed

www.theguardian.com

 

[Detechtive]

You can be frustrated and also mocking. IMO