It’s probably been chucked in a sanitary pad bin, never to be seen again. Jmo
Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #8 *Arrest*
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I know that Gail posted a final message in her family group chat. I hope Simon or his brother read it to Don, Heather and Ian.
As she lay dying in hospital after eating a suspected poisonous mushroom lunch, Gail Patterson posted a final message in her family group chat.
“Lots of love to you all.”
Maybe she wants to be in jail. I can’t see any other reason why she would proceed with this trial that is doing her absolutely no favours.
Does she want to see Simon and his family suffer more by going through a trial? Is she trying to add insult to injury?
Did Erin see the messages in the group chat after the relatives became ill??
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I was just reading some Vic stats ... people charged with murder plead not guilty more than people charged with other crimes.
The data revealed very different plea rates for different offences. For example, the offence of murder had the lowest proportion of guilty pleas (48.0% of proven murder charges), while attempted armed robbery had one of the highest plea rates (96.8% of proven charges).
Death cap mushrooms (Amanita phalloides) are among the most poisonous natural substances known. More potent even than Cyanide!
There are a couple of others more potent such as Botulinum which is produced by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum.
This one can occur in things like improperly canned foods. It's also used to make Botox
I just want to say I am a big animal lover and I don’t want people to think I actually wanted her to kill her dog. It would have just made that story a bit more believable if everybody she loved wasn’t absolutely fine after that horrific lunch and she wasn’t going to sacrifice her children 
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It’s part of the curiosity of following trials and weighing up evidence, I enjoy that too. I agree re the plea deal.
The two children of Simon and Erin are in the civilian witness list.
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…. According to the ABC.
Lunch survivor Ian Wilkinson speaks
Podcast Episode · The Case Of · 06/05/2025 · 20m
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…. According to the ABC.
The two children of Simon and Erin are in the civilian witness list.
Lunch survivor Ian Wilkinson speaks
Podcast Episode · The Case Of · 06/05/2025 · 20m
…. According to the ABC.
I read that pre-recorded testimonies will be played to the court for the two children.
Maybe they should bring the dog in to give evidence
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I have been trying to see if she can plead guilty now that the trial has commenced (because I thought she could).
As pleading guilty "should" reduce a sentence to some degree.
In NSW a person can ..... You can change your plea to guilty any time before or during the hearing, but if you are considering changing your plea, get legal advice as soon as possible. Legal Aid NSW
I think a person can in Victoria also, but this link is for the Magistrates Court, and I can't find a definitive answer for the Supreme Court of Victoria .... If you plead not guilty and you change your mind, you can change your plea to guilty at any time. You should seek legal advice if you would like to change your plea. Magistrates Court of Victoria
(Though, obviously, a plea cannot be changed after a verdict. Every link I read said that.)
They do say that if you change your plea to guilty during a trial, you may have to pay the prosecutor's fees. Probably because you wasted the prosecutor's time. imo
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I’m thinking that perhaps it did raise some alarm bells, hence his message that he didn’t feel comfortable to attend.
Yep and it would never of entered his head that she would turn her attention towards his parents as that’s so sick and warped.
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She used her children to perfect her delivery.
If she's a true narcissist, guilty as charged, she was fine with robbing the children of their grandparents and father even.
The children are alive because... they were still useful to her.
JMO
If she's a true narcissist, guilty as charged, she was fine with robbing the children of their grandparents and father even.
The children are alive because... they were still useful to her.
JMO
Holy hell. Just catching up on Ian’s testimony from today. This poor man has been to hell and back.
Based on evidence so far, the victims all seem like such nice and accommodating ‘churchy’ people. If this poisoning was deliberate, it’s so cold blooded.
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Based on evidence so far, the victims all seem like such nice and accommodating ‘churchy’ people. If this poisoning was deliberate, it’s so cold blooded.
Mushroom lunch’s sole surviving guest details deadly meal and its aftermath as trial of Erin Patterson continues
Ian Wilkinson, whose wife was among three who died, tells Victorian court the triple murder accused ‘just seemed like a normal person to me’
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My heart goes out to the medical staff who were not given the facts to properly assess their patients and yet probably still blame themselves.4.45pm
‘Not enough for four’: Doctor reveals mushroom antidote was in short supply after fatal meal
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Dr Beth Morgan, a registered doctor and an advanced infectious diseases’ trainee, was the last witness to give evidence today in the trial of accused triple murderer Erin Patterson.
Morgan was the overnight medical registrar at Monash Health the night Don and Gail Patterson were taken there to be cared for.
That night, she was taking referrals from the emergency department for medical patients who do not require surgery and need to be in hospital for longer than four hours (which means they cannot stay in the emergency department).
Morgan said the initial history for the couple included mention of 30–40 episodes of vomiting and diarrhoea that had started since midnight the night before.
She said Don had mild abdominal pain on his right side. He was quite sweaty and light-headed, she recalls, but oxygen saturation appeared normal for someone without respiratory issues.
“Donald himself was quite alert. He did appear sweaty and was quite distressed by the presentation, but his vital signs were relatively stable at that time; he was not febrile, as in, he didn’t have a fever,” Morgan said.
Morgan said some tests indicated that he could be suffering tissue hypoxia or organ damage. “I was quite concerned that there was evidence of liver damage at this time,” Morgan said.
The doctor told the jury she was concerned that Don wasn’t suffering from a gastroenteritis caused by food poisoning, so she called the toxicology registrar, who requested additional information about what was consumed at the lunch on July 29, 2023.
“I initially told him that there was a beef Wellington containing mushrooms that had been consumed. It was also along with an orange cake for dessert,” she said.
The toxicology registrar expressed concern about the delayed onset of symptoms, some 12 hours after lunch, which could indicate a serious toxin syndrome. “At that point, he suggested that if it was related to mushrooms, it was possibly caused by the ingestion of the amanita phalloides mushroom,” she said.
Amanita phalloides is commonly known as the death cap mushroom.
At that time, Morgan said they had no evidence that anyone else was experiencing the metabolic acidosis, kidney injury, or liver injury that Don was, so they did not access silibinin, the antidote to death cap mushroom poisoning.
Don was given a liver protective drug and was later admitted to the ICU.
Morgan told the jury that Gail, who a different registrar assessed, had regular vital signs, and it was determined she was suffering from food poisoning and was admitted to a short-stay unit.
Gail also eventually came into the care of Morgan, who suspected she may have been suffering from severe gastroenteritis or suspected mushroom poisoning.
After follow-up tests on Gail showed worsening metabolic acidosis and elevated lactate levels, Morgan spoke to the toxicology registrar and a decision was made to administer the silibinin, the antidote to death cap mushroom poisoning.
The pharmacist told Morgan there wasn’t enough antidote for four patients but said they would obtain it from another hospital.
“I expressed that we’re probably going to need this for at least four patients, and unfortunately, the pharmacist advised us that we didn’t have that available to us at Monash Health, but they were going to obtain it from an external hospital.″
A decision was made by 7.20am to transfer Ian and Heather Wilkinson to Dandenong Hospital.
Doctor reveals mushroom antidote was in short supply after fatal meal: Trial day six, as it happened
Of the four guests who dined on beef Wellington at Erin Patterson’s house in 2023, only one survived. On Tuesday, that guest – Ian Wilkinson – will tell his story for the first time when he takes the stand as a witness in the cook’s murder trial.www.theage.com.au
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I just keep thinking of the time I had food poisoning... how long and torturous the night felt, how overwhelmed and exhausted I was by morning. Imagining getting worse instead of better, having to go to the hospital, no improvement, seeing the worry on the nurses and doctors faces... it's so nightmarish to contemplate
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