I am wondering if she was asking, that it was out of curiosity of what's happening to them, as opposed to genuine care/concern.
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The jurors have returned after a short break and nurse Kylie Ashton is back in the witness box answering questions.
Ms Ashton was excused after brief questioning about when she first became aware that the children had eaten leftovers, without the mushrooms.
Despite being asked whether she was mistaken with her recollection, she's insisted she found out the first time Erin was at the hospital.
She says it was her understanding that when Erin left the hospital, she was going to come back with the children.
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The jury has passed Justice Christopher Beale a note asking if they'll now get every Monday off.
Nice try, members of the jury! But the answer is no from Justice Beale.
Earlier, they were told they'd be having the coming Monday, May 12, as a rest day while trial lawyers work on things behind the scenes.
Justice Beale says there may be other days in future where the court won’t sit.
"It’s a matter for you if you want to go back to work on the Monday," he says.
One of the jurors begins vigorously shaking his head, drawing laughter from the courtroom.
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Nurse Kylie Ashton finishes giving evidence
By Melissa Brown
The jurors have returned after a short break and nurse Kylie Ashton is back in the witness box answering questions.Ms Ashton was excused after brief questioning about when she first became aware that the children had eaten leftovers, without the mushrooms.
Despite being asked whether she was mistaken with her recollection, she's insisted she found out the first time Erin was at the hospital.
She says it was her understanding that when Erin left the hospital, she was going to come back with the children.
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Jury asks for every Monday off but gets no joy from the judge
By Kristian Silva
The jury has passed Justice Christopher Beale a note asking if they'll now get every Monday off.Nice try, members of the jury! But the answer is no from Justice Beale.
Earlier, they were told they'd be having the coming Monday, May 12, as a rest day while trial lawyers work on things behind the scenes.
Justice Beale says there may be other days in future where the court won’t sit.
"It’s a matter for you if you want to go back to work on the Monday," he says.
One of the jurors begins vigorously shaking his head, drawing laughter from the courtroom.
Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened
Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.
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Exactly. I don't think asking about them necessarily shows genuine concern. She could just be wondering if things were going according to plan.
Re: the questions by the jury about attendance and work... I bet the employers of the people on the jury would love to know who that was who's planning on not coming in. I know from work colleagues who've been on jury duty that my bosses would have absolutely expected attendance if court wasn't on!
I think it would have been odd if she didn't ask. You have all these medical professional really worried about me & tell me others are in ICU after eating a meal I prepared, even calling the police , but I'm fine, I wonder how they are?
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I believe Erin asked about the others. Just not put of concern for their health/collapse, out of concern for hers.
If she didn't suddenly need to keep her children from divulging more then she could afford and if she didn't have a food dehydrator to hyde, I think she'd have happily used up one of a the few doses of antidote, wasting it.
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If she didn't suddenly need to keep her children from divulging more then she could afford and if she didn't have a food dehydrator to hyde, I think she'd have happily used up one of a the few doses of antidote, wasting it.
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1m ago12.23 AEST
Cindy Munro is the prosecution’s next witness
In July 2023, Munro was working at Leongatha hospital as deputy director of nursing, the court hears.
Munro says on the morning of 31 July, she was part of Ian and Heather Wilkinson’s transfer to Dandenong Hospital due to suspected mushroom poisoning.
A reminder that Ian and Heather are the uncle and aunt of Simon Patterson – Erin’s estranged husband.
Munro says this required transferring them as inpatients at Leongatha hospital to the urgent care clinic on site.
Munro was caring for Ian before his transfer, she says.
Dr Chris Webster, who previously gave evidence, then arrived at hospital.
Munro says she heard Webster tell Ian medical staff suspected death cap mushroom poisoning. She says Webster told Ian staff at Dandenong hospital had requested he and Heather be transferred there.
Munro later saw Erin at the urgent care clinic when she arrived at Leongatha hospital at about 8am.
Cindy Munro is the prosecution’s next witness
In July 2023, Munro was working at Leongatha hospital as deputy director of nursing, the court hears.
Munro says on the morning of 31 July, she was part of Ian and Heather Wilkinson’s transfer to Dandenong Hospital due to suspected mushroom poisoning.
A reminder that Ian and Heather are the uncle and aunt of Simon Patterson – Erin’s estranged husband.
Munro says this required transferring them as inpatients at Leongatha hospital to the urgent care clinic on site.
Munro was caring for Ian before his transfer, she says.
Dr Chris Webster, who previously gave evidence, then arrived at hospital.
Munro says she heard Webster tell Ian medical staff suspected death cap mushroom poisoning. She says Webster told Ian staff at Dandenong hospital had requested he and Heather be transferred there.
Munro later saw Erin at the urgent care clinic when she arrived at Leongatha hospital at about 8am.
According to the prosecutors, she picked the death caps in late April, around the same time she purchased the dehydrator. The lunch wasn't until July 29, three months later.
She had to preserve them somehow, otherwise they would have spoiled.
1m ago12.28 AEST
Prosecutor Jane Warren asks Munro what Webster said he would do if Erin did not return.
He was going to call the police because he was worried about her welfare.
Medical staff considered calling police if Erin didn’t return
Cindy Munro recalls seeing colleague Kylie Ashton seeking a “discharge at own risk form”.After Erin left the hospital, Munro said Dr Chris Webster said he was worried and hoped she would return in 20 minutes.
Prosecutor Jane Warren asks Munro what Webster said he would do if Erin did not return.
He was going to call the police because he was worried about her welfare.
Perhaps she was wary about guests entering the pantry, as there sat the dehydrator.“The leftovers collected from Erin Patterson’s bin and transported to Monash Medical Centre and the Royal Botanic Gardens were tested and did not show any sign of death cap mushrooms, the jury heard.”
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I imagine any death cap containing food etc was disposed of elsewhere and EP knew the leftovers in her bin were from the non-poisoned batch.
Only she forgot about the dehydrator….
Discussions could have been made about its use.
I thought, in previous notes, SP did not know that EP had used a dehydrator in the past.
A recent purchase for this important meal!!!
These doctors, nurses and medical staff had good instincts.1m ago12.28 AEST
Medical staff considered calling police if Erin didn’t return
Cindy Munro recalls seeing colleague Kylie Ashton seeking a “discharge at own risk form”.
After Erin left the hospital, Munro said Dr Chris Webster said he was worried and hoped she would return in 20 minutes.
Prosecutor Jane Warren asks Munro what Webster said he would do if Erin did not return.
He was going to call the police because he was worried about her welfare.
They knew her behaviour at the hospital was dangerous.
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Another nurse at Leongatha hospital is now giving evidence.
Cindy Munro cannulated Erin Patterson and administered the IV fluids when Erin returned to the hospital after initially leaving.
She says Erin didn't look unwell as Ian and Heather.
She says she remembers Ian being so unwell he couldn’t lift his head from the pillow, but Erin was sitting up and didn’t look unwell.
She says the hospital had run out of all the medication it needed to protect the body from the mushroom toxin because they'd used it all on Ian and Heather.
Ms Munro says Erin was stressed and repeated multiple times that she didn't want any of the treatment she was receiving.
She says Erin told her about the children eating the leftovers.
Ms Munro says that worried her, but that Erin had said she'd scraped the mushrooms off and the kids weren't sick.
Erin said she didn't want to cause them any hassle or take them them out of school, Ms Munro says.
The nurse says Erin became teary at that point.
She says she explained to Erin that if even if the mushrooms had been removed, some of the toxins could have still seeped through to the meat.
She says Erin then agreed to receive treatment and bring the children to the hospital.
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Hospital used up all of its mushroom toxin medication on Ian and Heather, court hears
By Melissa Brown
Another nurse at Leongatha hospital is now giving evidence.Cindy Munro cannulated Erin Patterson and administered the IV fluids when Erin returned to the hospital after initially leaving.
She says Erin didn't look unwell as Ian and Heather.
She says she remembers Ian being so unwell he couldn’t lift his head from the pillow, but Erin was sitting up and didn’t look unwell.
She says the hospital had run out of all the medication it needed to protect the body from the mushroom toxin because they'd used it all on Ian and Heather.
Ms Munro says Erin was stressed and repeated multiple times that she didn't want any of the treatment she was receiving.
She says Erin told her about the children eating the leftovers.
Ms Munro says that worried her, but that Erin had said she'd scraped the mushrooms off and the kids weren't sick.
Erin said she didn't want to cause them any hassle or take them them out of school, Ms Munro says.
The nurse says Erin became teary at that point.
She says she explained to Erin that if even if the mushrooms had been removed, some of the toxins could have still seeped through to the meat.
She says Erin then agreed to receive treatment and bring the children to the hospital.
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Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.
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1m ago03.40 BST
A colleague asked Munro to cannulate Erin, the court hears.
She says there was not enough N-acetylcysteine (NAC) - a liver treatment - in the hospital because it had been administered to Ian and Heather Wilkinson, two of the four guests at the fateful mushroom lunch.
Staff had to request additional supply from Korumburra hospital, Munro says.
Munro says she told Erin there would be a delay and she would commence her medical observations.
Warren asks Munro how Erin appeared at this point:
She didn’t look unwell like Heather and Ian. I recall Ian being so unwell he couldn’t lift his head from a pillow... but Erin was sitting up on the bed from the trolley and she didn’t look unwell to me.
Erin 'didn't look unwell' to her, nurse tells court
Cindy Munro says when she returned to the urgent care clinic from a meeting “before 10am”, Erin was in the hospital.A colleague asked Munro to cannulate Erin, the court hears.
She says there was not enough N-acetylcysteine (NAC) - a liver treatment - in the hospital because it had been administered to Ian and Heather Wilkinson, two of the four guests at the fateful mushroom lunch.
Staff had to request additional supply from Korumburra hospital, Munro says.
Munro says she told Erin there would be a delay and she would commence her medical observations.
Warren asks Munro how Erin appeared at this point:
She didn’t look unwell like Heather and Ian. I recall Ian being so unwell he couldn’t lift his head from a pillow... but Erin was sitting up on the bed from the trolley and she didn’t look unwell to me.
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Ms Munro says Erin agreed to be treated and agreed that her children needed to be treated.
She confirms she observed Erin talking to someone on the phone.
Ms Munro says she told Erin that she had called an ambulance to take her to Dandenong Hospital and that her children would be taken to Monash Hospital.
She says Erin told her she didn't want to go to Dandenong Hospital, she wanted to go where her children were.
Erin went to use the bathroom before being loaded into the ambulance, Ms Munro says.
That closes the prosecution's questioning of Ms Munro.
1m ago
Cindy Munro is now being cross-examined by Colin Mandy SC.
Mr Mandy asks Ms Munro about when Erin first presented at hospital and she confirms it was very soon after that nurse, Kylie Ashton, was looking for a "discharge at own risk form".
Mr Mandy has no further questions and Ms Munro is discharged.
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Erin Patterson wanted to go where her children were
By Tim Callanan
Ms Munro says Erin agreed to be treated and agreed that her children needed to be treated.She confirms she observed Erin talking to someone on the phone.
Ms Munro says she told Erin that she had called an ambulance to take her to Dandenong Hospital and that her children would be taken to Monash Hospital.
She says Erin told her she didn't want to go to Dandenong Hospital, she wanted to go where her children were.
Erin went to use the bathroom before being loaded into the ambulance, Ms Munro says.
That closes the prosecution's questioning of Ms Munro.
1m ago
Questioning of Cindy Munro ends
By Tim Callanan
Cindy Munro is now being cross-examined by Colin Mandy SC.Mr Mandy asks Ms Munro about when Erin first presented at hospital and she confirms it was very soon after that nurse, Kylie Ashton, was looking for a "discharge at own risk form".
Mr Mandy has no further questions and Ms Munro is discharged.
Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened
Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.
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1m ago03.43 BST
“She didn’t want any interventions,” Munro says.
Munro says Erin said multiple times she did not want the medical treatment.
She says she told Erin that because she had consumed the lunch meal she required NAC. Munro then inserted the cannula for Erin and attached the IV fluids, she says.
Erin then said her children had eaten the same meal. Munro says she told her it was important the children be tested because, even if Erin scraped the mushrooms off the meal for them, the toxin could have leaked into the meat.
She says Erin was transferred to Monash medical centre, she used the toilet at Leongatha.
1m ago03.43 BST
Erin’s lawyer, Colin Mandy, begins a brief cross-examination of nurse Cindy Munro.
She agrees Erin said her children did not have any symptoms after consuming leftovers of the lunch.
The cross-examination has concluded.
Erin said 'I don't want the children involved', nurse tells court
While trying to insert the cannula, Munro says Erin “stressed she didn’t want any of this.”“She didn’t want any interventions,” Munro says.
Munro says Erin said multiple times she did not want the medical treatment.
She says she told Erin that because she had consumed the lunch meal she required NAC. Munro then inserted the cannula for Erin and attached the IV fluids, she says.
Erin then said her children had eaten the same meal. Munro says she told her it was important the children be tested because, even if Erin scraped the mushrooms off the meal for them, the toxin could have leaked into the meat.
Erin later agreed for the children to be tested and said Simon would drive them to Monash, Munro says.
She says Erin was transferred to Monash medical centre, she used the toilet at Leongatha.
1m ago03.43 BST
Erin’s lawyer, Colin Mandy, begins a brief cross-examination of nurse Cindy Munro.
She agrees Erin said her children did not have any symptoms after consuming leftovers of the lunch.
The cross-examination has concluded.
‘She didn’t look unwell to me’: Nurse says Patterson looked very different to lunch guests
Nursing manager Cindy Munro said she was asked by a busy colleague to cannulate Patterson on 31 Monday July 2023 when the mother-of-two returned to Leongatha Hospital after self-discharging earlier that morning.Munro said the hospital had used all of their supplies for a poisoning medication on Ian and Heather, so arrangements were being made to be delivered more from Korumburra.
“I went back in to tell her there would be a delay (in getting the medication) and that I was here to check her vital signs and cannulate,” Munro said.
Prosecution: “How did Erin look to you at that point?”
Munro: “She didn’t look unwell like Heather and Ian. Ian was so unwell he could barely lift his head off the pillow.
“Erin was sitting up in the trolley and she didn’t look unwell to me.”
Munro said while she was cannulating, Patterson said “multiple times” that she “didn’t want any of this (meaning the medication or IV drip) and “didn’t understand why she was getting any of it”.
“So I stopped what I was doing, I went to check with Dr Foote and then I came back and Dr Foote had to come back and reassure her that she was having the medication and what it was for.”
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Erin Patterson is accused of killing three people with poisonous death cap mushrooms.
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Hospital used all liver protecting medication on Ian and Heather Wilkinson, court hears
Adriana Mageros
Leongatha Hospital used its entire supply of a special liver protecting medication while treating Ian and Heather Wilkinson for suspected mushroom poisoning, a court has been told.
The next witness giving evidence is Cindy Munro, a registered nurse, who was working as the deputy director of nursing at Leongatha Hospital on July 31, 2023.
The court has previously heard Ian and Heather were admitted to Leongatha Hospital following the beef wellington lunch on July 29, 2023.
Giving her evidence, Ms Munro said she spoke to Ms Patterson when she represented to the urgent care centre at Leongatha Hospital after she had earlier left the building.
The nurse spoke to Erin and introduced herself, and mentioned she was going to start treatment which included cannulating her and giving her a medication called NAC (N-acetylcysteine), which is commonly used to protect the liver.
“We didn’t have enough NAC,” Ms Munro said.
“We had used all our supply… for Ian and Heather, so we didn’t have enough of the same medication.”
The court heard arrangements were made for the medication to be sourced from Korumburra Hospital.
Ms Patterson was told by the nurse there would be a delay in her receiving that treatment.
Under cross-examination by defence barrister Colin Mandy SC, Ms Munro confirmed the hospital had used all of its NAC supply on Heather and Ian.
“We used five times the amount we would usually use for someone,” Ms Munro told the court.
BBM : Wow that's alot
Hospital used all liver protecting medication on Ian and Heather Wilkinson, court hears
Adriana Mageros
Leongatha Hospital used its entire supply of a special liver protecting medication while treating Ian and Heather Wilkinson for suspected mushroom poisoning, a court has been told.
The next witness giving evidence is Cindy Munro, a registered nurse, who was working as the deputy director of nursing at Leongatha Hospital on July 31, 2023.
The court has previously heard Ian and Heather were admitted to Leongatha Hospital following the beef wellington lunch on July 29, 2023.
Giving her evidence, Ms Munro said she spoke to Ms Patterson when she represented to the urgent care centre at Leongatha Hospital after she had earlier left the building.
The nurse spoke to Erin and introduced herself, and mentioned she was going to start treatment which included cannulating her and giving her a medication called NAC (N-acetylcysteine), which is commonly used to protect the liver.
“We didn’t have enough NAC,” Ms Munro said.
“We had used all our supply… for Ian and Heather, so we didn’t have enough of the same medication.”
The court heard arrangements were made for the medication to be sourced from Korumburra Hospital.
Ms Patterson was told by the nurse there would be a delay in her receiving that treatment.
Under cross-examination by defence barrister Colin Mandy SC, Ms Munro confirmed the hospital had used all of its NAC supply on Heather and Ian.
“We used five times the amount we would usually use for someone,” Ms Munro told the court.
BBM : Wow that's alot
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2m ago
Senior Constable Adrian Martinez-Villalobis is now giving evidence.
He confirms he was asked to do a welfare check on Erin Patterson after a call from Dr Chris Webster.
He says he arrived at Erin's house around 10am but was then told by Dr Webster in a second phone call that Erin had returned to the hospital.
Senior Constable Martinez-Villalobis says Dr Webster asked him to look for leftovers of the beef Wellington.
He also spoke to Erin Patterson, who gave him the code for the gate and suggested where he could find leftovers from the meal.
"She's given me pretty specific information about which bin they may be in," he says.
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1m ago
Senior Constable Martinez-Villalobis says he found the leftovers in a red-lidded bin outside the property.
He says there was little else in the bin, but he found leftovers from "one or two" beef Wellingtons in a brown paper Woolworths bag.
He says Erin Patterson was "quite co-operative" at that stage.
Senior Constable Martinez-Villalobis took the bag of leftovers to the hospital.
There are no more questions from the prosecution.
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2m ago
Police officer takes the witness stand
By Tim Callanan
Senior Constable Adrian Martinez-Villalobis is now giving evidence.He confirms he was asked to do a welfare check on Erin Patterson after a call from Dr Chris Webster.
He says he arrived at Erin's house around 10am but was then told by Dr Webster in a second phone call that Erin had returned to the hospital.
Senior Constable Martinez-Villalobis says Dr Webster asked him to look for leftovers of the beef Wellington.
He also spoke to Erin Patterson, who gave him the code for the gate and suggested where he could find leftovers from the meal.
"She's given me pretty specific information about which bin they may be in," he says.
Key Event
1m ago
Leftovers from beef Wellington found in bin
By Tim Callanan
Senior Constable Martinez-Villalobis says he found the leftovers in a red-lidded bin outside the property.He says there was little else in the bin, but he found leftovers from "one or two" beef Wellingtons in a brown paper Woolworths bag.
He says Erin Patterson was "quite co-operative" at that stage.
Senior Constable Martinez-Villalobis took the bag of leftovers to the hospital.
There are no more questions from the prosecution.
Erin Patterson visibly upset as daughter gives evidence at murder trial — as it happened
Medical staff who examined Ms Patterson in the aftermath of a deadly mushroom meal at her home have given evidence to a murder trial jury. Look back at how Thursday's hearing unfolded in our live blog.
www.abc.net.au
2m ago03.55 BST
The prosecution has now called their next witness - Tanya Patterson.
Tanya is married to Matthew Patterson, the son of Don and Gail Patterson. Both Don and Gail are deceased.
Don and Gail Patterson – accused Erin Patterson’s in-laws. Photograph: no credit
The prosecution has now called their next witness - Tanya Patterson.
Tanya is married to Matthew Patterson, the son of Don and Gail Patterson. Both Don and Gail are deceased.
Don and Gail Patterson – accused Erin Patterson’s in-laws. Photograph: no credit
Aside: Strikes me as a very odd question. I'm surprised that it was raised in a note to the judge. I gather that they were told why this particular Monday was a day off.
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