Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #9 *Arrest*

[BreakingNews]

Maybe EP was adding mushroom/paste to everything in the belief of its cancer-prevention and other health benefits. That might be why she supposedly added it to things the kids ate, even though they didn't like mushrooms.

7 health benefits of mushrooms

www.uclahealth.org

 

[MsMarple]

If the beef Wellingtons were made individually would the guests even know if Erin served herself one that didn’t contain mushrooms? That would simplify the need for separate batches of duxelles. JMO

 

[Detechtive]

I am not sure if you meant to reply to me with your post or if it was an accident, since your comment didn’t seem (to me) related. (ETA maybe it got lost between the previous thread and this one!)

Sorry! Can't quite figure out how to quote from previous threads properly!

 

[Detechtive]

Maybe EP was adding mushroom/paste to everything in the belief of its cancer-prevention and other health benefits. That might be why she supposedly added it to things the kids ate, even though they didn't like mushrooms.

7 health benefits of mushrooms

www.uclahealth.org

Or maybe she was just practising so she could wipe out Simon and his family.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Maybe EP was adding mushroom/paste to everything in the belief of its cancer-prevention and other health benefits. That might be why she supposedly added it to things the kids ate, even though they didn't like mushrooms.

7 health benefits of mushrooms

www.uclahealth.org

I'm not sure of any health benefits from Death Cap Mushrooms...

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Or maybe she was just practising so she could wipe out Simon and his family.

More to the point.

 

[Detechtive]

I'm not sure of any health benefits from Death Cap Mushrooms...

This made me laugh out loud!

 

[Detechtive]

My mother was also one.

I have one in the family, too.

I wonder if this is why I don't find it difficult to believe that she concocted a highly manipulative attention-seeking reason to lure these poor (what seem like wholesome lovely and perhaps naive) people to a horrific end. JMO.

 

[MsMarple]

Or maybe she was just practising so she could wipe out Simon and his family.

Agreed. Here’s what Erin told Simon:

Mr Patterson says one of his children raised the topic of mushrooms in the hospital.

He says during their time in hospital Erin had mentioned conducting a blind taste test with mushroom-infused muffins with her children, using a dehydrator.

"It felt like news to me that she dehydrated food," Mr Patterson says.

He tells the court he was not aware that Erin owned a dehydrator.

Erin Patterson doesn't have 'high self-esteem', murder trial hears — as it happened

The jury in Erin Patterson's murder trial hears the accused tried to persuade her estranged husband to attend the lunch where four guests ate meals containing death cap mushrooms. Look back on how the hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

No mention of cancer prevention or supplemental nutrition, just testing if the kids could detect the powdered mushrooms in their muffins.

 

[Detechtive]

Agreed. Here’s what Erin told Simon:

Mr Patterson says one of his children raised the topic of mushrooms in the hospital.

He says during their time in hospital Erin had mentioned conducting a blind taste test with mushroom-infused muffins with her children, using a dehydrator.

"It felt like news to me that she dehydrated food," Mr Patterson says.

He tells the court he was not aware that Erin owned a dehydrator.

Erin Patterson doesn't have 'high self-esteem', murder trial hears — as it happened

The jury in Erin Patterson's murder trial hears the accused tried to persuade her estranged husband to attend the lunch where four guests ate meals containing death cap mushrooms. Look back on how the hearing unfolded in our live blog.

www.abc.net.au

No mention of cancer prevention or supplemental nutrition, just testing if the kids could detect the powdered mushrooms in their muffins.

It's intriguing to see people trying to reframe this horror as some mother of the year scenario - trying to get her children nutritious mushrooms hidden in their muffins. There are many other ways to give your children a nutritious diet which doesn't involve this.

Regardless of whether you think the accused is guilty or innocent, I am curious how people can get past the magnitude of lies here. The fake cancer. The lying about where she obtained the mushrooms, the lying about the dehydrator, the wiping of her phone remotely while it was in police custody, the lies about Simon accusing her of poisoning his parents, the lies about her being sick and consuming the same food as the in-laws, the lies about her children eating the poisoned meal the next day, and on and on.

The majority of these lies have been admitted to by her own defence.

 

[Kemug]

I have one in the family, too.

I wonder if this is why I don't find it difficult to believe that she concocted a highly manipulative attention-seeking reason to lure these poor (what seem like wholesome lovely and perhaps naive) people to a horrific end. JMO.

Perhaps they may have been a bit naive, after nearly a lifetime of probably trying to see the best in everyone. But I doubt if anyone, even us clever sleuths, could have possibly imagined that our daughter-in-law was murdering us. (allegedly)

 

[Detechtive]

Perhaps they may have been a bit naive, after nearly a lifetime of probably trying to see the best in everyone. But I doubt if anyone, even us clever sleuths, could have possibly imagined that our daughter-in-law was murdering us. (allegedly)

Agreed, I wasn't trying to criticise them at all by saying Naive. They seemed like truly salt of the earth people who saw the best in others. I don't think anyone could imagine this scenario, although, Heathers comments about the crockery seemed insightful after the event.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I'm not really certain that "the children don't like mushrooms." The daughter stated they were "okay" and that she ate them sometimes. I wonder if Erin didn't *claim* the kids didn't like them as part of her explanation about why they didn't get sick (scraping them off etc).

But I'm also stuck on how she supposedly knew that the illnesses/deaths were caused by mushrooms as opposed to some other part of the meal. MOO

 

[Ellery84]

I'm not really certain that "the children don't like mushrooms." The daughter stated they were "okay" and that she ate them sometimes. I wonder if Erin didn't *claim* the kids didn't like them as part of her explanation about why they didn't get sick (scraping them off etc).

But I'm also stuck on how she supposedly knew that the illnesses/deaths were caused by mushrooms as opposed to some other part of the meal. MOO

Right! How did Erin know the food poisoning wasn’t caused by the meat?

Did she know the mushrooms were poisonous?

 

[Kemug]

I've realised (a bit belatedly, but there's a lot to get one's head around) that it doesn't really matter if the mushrooms in the rubbish bin were Death Caps or not. If they were, so what - "As I said, I bought some at Woolworths and some at a Chinese shop. I didn't know any of them were poisonous". If they weren't, well I bought them from 2 different places, so obviously some were poisonous and some not."

 

[Ellery84]

I've realised (a bit belatedly, but there's a lot to get one's head around) that it doesn't really matter if the mushrooms in the rubbish bin were Death Caps or not. If they were, so what - "As I said, I bought some at Woolworths and some at a Chinese shop. I didn't know any of them were poisonous". If they weren't, well I bought them from 2 different places, so obviously some were poisonous and some not."

Where is your quote from?

 

[BreakingNews]

Or maybe she was just practising so she could wipe out Simon and his family.

I was just putting out another idea. Mushrooms are very beneficial to our health.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I have one in the family, too.

I wonder if this is why I don't find it difficult to believe that she concocted a highly manipulative attention-seeking reason to lure these poor (what seem like wholesome lovely and perhaps naive) people to a horrific end. JMO.

I loved my mother dearly, but we all knew that mum was a hypochondriac. I think Erin is too but their might also be a Munchausen by Proxy factor going on there...

It's intriguing to see people trying to reframe this horror as some mother of the year scenario - trying to get her children nutritious mushrooms hidden in their muffins. There are many other ways to give your children a nutritious diet which doesn't involve this.

Regardless of whether you think the accused is guilty or innocent, I am curious how people can get past the magnitude of lies here. The fake cancer. The lying about where she obtained the mushrooms, the lying about the dehydrator, the wiping of her phone remotely while it was in police custody, the lies about Simon accusing her of poisoning his parents, the lies about her being sick and consuming the same food as the in-laws, the lies about her children eating the poisoned meal the next day, and on and on.

The majority of these lies have been admitted to by her own defence.

I find it amazing that some people are still defending her, to be frank. She's been arrested on 3 charges of murder and one charge of attempted murder.

 

[Kemug]

Where is your quote from?

The top of my head. ie imagining what the accused might say. Quotations can sometimes be like that. And oops, I see I accidentally omitted one lot of quotation marks, there should also be some in front of "well". "A thousand pardons!", as some might say.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I've realised (a bit belatedly, but there's a lot to get one's head around) that it doesn't really matter if the mushrooms in the rubbish bin were Death Caps or not. If they were, so what - "As I said, I bought some at Woolworths and some at a Chinese shop. I didn't know any of them were poisonous". If they weren't, well I bought them from 2 different places, so obviously some were poisonous and some not."

Erin Patterson has since admitted that she did indeed forage for the poisonous mushrooms, and it was panic that made her lie and say that she bought them from a Chinese grocer. She also lied about not owning a food hydrator. Her lawyer said that it was a 'terrible accident' that she picked the poisonous mushrooms. This is what the defence will put in their final summary and if the jury is dumb enough, they'll swallow it...