GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

[MaxDecimus13]

I don't know where they got 9 seconds from? She was in there a few seconds at the most.

It comes from the second she touches the door to the second she leaves.

 

[Jake18]

I have no doubt Mr Mandy will come up with something to justify appeal, given he was skilled enough to keep some evidence out and managed to construct a defence out of very little.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if he recommends she work with someone else through any appeal process.

 

[Jake18]

I still can't understand why the tip trip from the day of the meal was ruled inadmissible

I mean it's obviously her, and it's time and date stamped, so it can't have been in dispute that she went there on that day at that time. If nothing else, it proves she was lying about Lego and cake binges.

I realise that in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter because she was found guilty regardless, but I'm so confused about how it's decided what evidence is/isn't admissible.

If she'd been found not guilty but then all this stuff about Simon's previous illness and the tip trip came out... Or is it only able to come out because she's been found guilty? And if she had been found not guilty it wouldn't have been permitted to be published?

I wonder if it would have been allowed IF she’d said she’d vomited in the police interview, so the prosecution could prove that she wasn’t at home, binging, at that time.

So sneaky of the defence to make up the vomiting later on.

 

[MrJ]

For what it is worth, I think Erin did what she did because she could & was so arrogant that she thought that she would get away with it & nobody would dare question her.

I can't stand her.

I agree, and she did get away with allegedly poisoning Simon so she felt emboldened. Unfortunately for her, the doctors and the victims were on to medical treatment quickly to determine what was going on. Not before she stalled though and could've saved their lives...

 

[Deleted member 363451]

It comes from the second she touches the door to the second she leaves.

Oh, okay.

 

[Marg944]

How lovely that the jury had a little bit of a special outing!!!



“The day before the verdict, the jury was permitted to escape its enforced isolation – and the chaotic scenes at the hotel, where they were not allowed to use the gym or onsite bar – with a trip to a local winery.”

Jurors hotel booking bungle caused mushroom murder trial havoc

In the final days of their deliberations in Erin Patterson’s high-profile murder trial, jurors, police, prosecutors and media found themselves at the same hotel.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Yes. Would be very interesting indeed. What, if anything, in her past led her to where she is now. And why? Or is it simply a personality type and there was no specific incident that shaped the outcome?

Also I would be quite interested re those types of persons who continually defend the indefensible, and causes behind that. Is that from a past instance of perceiving themselves as a lone defender - and being proved right - then becoming obsessed with repeating that feeling at any cost? Or is it just a personality type also, and no specific incident in the history...? Either way, humans are truly fascinating stuff!

Yes, there has to be a personality type for those who are still defending her even now. There's a couple of ratbag creators on Tik Tok who are using every excuse under the sun for her...

 

[MrJ]

I can understand that there are those who want to see the good in everybody. However, at the end of the day Erin Patterson is a triple murderer. I personally struggle to see how people could defend her

 

[Jake18]

Considering that Australians have three large bins at home - one for general waste, one for recycling, and one for green waste - Erin used the rubbish dump facilities more than I would have thought was necessary. Especially when you have to pay to dump stuff at the rubbish dump.

And (she said) she had a skip bin delivered annually to get rid of other hard rubbish - like Phone A.

imo

I recall reading that bin day was Thursday and that on Monday when the police were looking in the bins they found - I think - only two bags, including the Woolworths bag.

So, no need to do a dump trip for overflowing rubbish.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Was Erin Patterson's chilling crime inspired by Midsomer Murders?

Could Erin Patterson's evil actions have been inspired by a classic British TV crime drama?

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Sarahlou]

I can understand that there are those who want to see the good in everybody. However, at the end of the day Erin Patterson is a triple murderer. I personally struggle to see how people could defend her

There's no reasonable reason why anyone would defend such a horrid person. None. It's actually quite disgusting.

I agree with JessD.

 

[SilentHill]

If she'd been found not guilty but then all this stuff about Simon's previous illness and the tip trip came out... Or is it only able to come out because she's been found guilty? And if she had been found not guilty it wouldn't have been permitted to be published?

I'm very curious about this too actually. I think it would be suppressed if found not guilty as it wasn't part of the trial?

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I can understand that there are those who want to see the good in everybody. However, at the end of the day Erin Patterson is a triple murderer. I personally struggle to see how people could defend her

I don't understand anyone seeing the good in someone like Erin Patterson, or blaming it on her childhood.

 

[Marg944]

A photographer made a bizarre contraption to catch Erin Patterson. The gamble paid off.​

“Erin Patterson believed the confines of her prison van would shield her from the media’s relentless gaze – but she was wrong. This is the story behind the visceral photographs that exposed her anguish, a testament to the dedication of the photographer and journalist who managed to capture the defining images of a high-profile trial.

Martin Keep, though, ventured out into the bitter cold, a custom rig mounted to his body with studio flashes twisted around his camera. It was something that Keep, who was photographing the trial for Agence France-Presse, his colleagues, and Agephotographer Jason South had never seen before – a bizarre creation, born out of a chance find at former Jetstar pilot Greg Lynn’s trial almost a year before.

For years in Melbourne, photographers haven’t bothered chasing police vans, thinking they couldn’t capture the scene inside. “But the Greg Lynn case changed all that,” South said.

“[Age colleague] Joe Armao got a picture inside [Lynn’s] van without anybody in it, and he showed me. He said: ‘You can see in there.’ I spent days and days, and got Greg Lynn in that van.

On May 12, Keep thought he’d test out his rig for the first time, and caught her staring dead-eyed through the window of the police van.

In his images, her shock at being photographed is visceral. Her face falls before she turns away from the camera, covering her face with her hands, in a now-iconic set of photographs.

“After that series of flashes through the window, [photographers] never saw her again,” South said.

“She would dive underneath the window, or … [sit with] the back of her head on the window, so there’s no chance of seeing her. She’d ride like that all the way to Melbourne – 165 kilometres back.”

A photographer made a bizarre contraption to catch Erin Patterson. The gamble paid off

Erin Patterson believed the confines of her prison van would shield her from the media’s relentless gaze – but she was wrong. This is the story behind the visceral photographs that exposed her anguish, a testament to the dedication of the photographers and journalist who captured the defining...

www.theage.com.au

 

[Tweet57]

In the photo of Erin in the police vehicle after the verdicts , she is reading a large book. After just being found guilty on 4 charges, I find it a bit weird, that she can calmly read. It seems rather cold and detached behaviour IMO

 

[Marg944]

Martin Keep with the equipment he used to photograph Erin Patterson in the back of the police van.Credit: Martin Keep

A photographer made a bizarre contraption to catch Erin Patterson. The gamble paid off

Erin Patterson believed the confines of her prison van would shield her from the media’s relentless gaze – but she was wrong. This is the story behind the visceral photographs that exposed her anguish, a testament to the dedication of the photographers and journalist who captured the defining...

www.theage.com.au

Martin Keep’s work:-

Erin Patterson verdict as it happened: Guilty mushroom cook showed ‘no expression or reaction’ to jury findings; Morwell locals react outside court

After six days of deliberations, the jury found the mother of two, 50, guilty of three charges of murder and one of attempted murder over the fatal beef Wellington lunch she served in July 2023.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Two SCents]

And if she did? What would that mean to you?

It would mean the difference between it being suggested and being diagnosed.

'At one point, during the pre-trial hearing, he went so far as to suggest that she is on the autism spectrum, describing her empathetic behaviour in public as different to the trickier personality she adopted in private.
‘I think Erin is very good at relating to people,’ was how he put it. ‘She’s learnt how to do that the way a high-functioning Asperger’s does, so the way she presents is high functioning… She knows how to appear to be enjoying interaction.’

https://archive.md/2025.07.07-132416/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14881551/shocking-secret-mushroom-killer-kept-Australia-GUY-ADAMS-reveals-sensational-truth-trial-rocked-nation.html#selection-1483.0-1487.240

 

[Deleted member 363451]

A photographer made a bizarre contraption to catch Erin Patterson. The gamble paid off.​

“Erin Patterson believed the confines of her prison van would shield her from the media’s relentless gaze – but she was wrong. This is the story behind the visceral photographs that exposed her anguish, a testament to the dedication of the photographer and journalist who managed to capture the defining images of a high-profile trial.

Martin Keep, though, ventured out into the bitter cold, a custom rig mounted to his body with studio flashes twisted around his camera. It was something that Keep, who was photographing the trial for Agence France-Presse, his colleagues, and Agephotographer Jason South had never seen before – a bizarre creation, born out of a chance find at former Jetstar pilot Greg Lynn’s trial almost a year before.

For years in Melbourne, photographers haven’t bothered chasing police vans, thinking they couldn’t capture the scene inside. “But the Greg Lynn case changed all that,” South said.

“[Age colleague] Joe Armao got a picture inside [Lynn’s] van without anybody in it, and he showed me. He said: ‘You can see in there.’ I spent days and days, and got Greg Lynn in that van.

On May 12, Keep thought he’d test out his rig for the first time, and caught her staring dead-eyed through the window of the police van.

In his images, her shock at being photographed is visceral. Her face falls before she turns away from the camera, covering her face with her hands, in a now-iconic set of photographs.

“After that series of flashes through the window, [photographers] never saw her again,” South said.

“She would dive underneath the window, or … [sit with] the back of her head on the window, so there’s no chance of seeing her. She’d ride like that all the way to Melbourne – 165 kilometres back.”

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A photographer made a bizarre contraption to catch Erin Patterson. The gamble paid off

Erin Patterson believed the confines of her prison van would shield her from the media’s relentless gaze – but she was wrong. This is the story behind the visceral photographs that exposed her anguish, a testament to the dedication of the photographers and journalist who captured the defining...

www.theage.com.au

Agatha Christie?

 

[Eloise]

I would also want to hear about any actual diagnoses she has. If she doesn't have a diagnosis, then I'd take that with a grain of salt, even coming from Simon who'd know her better than anyone. There are personality disorders that have some superficial similarities to autism, including masking behaviours, but it really needs a clinical diagnosis to be sure.

 

[drsleuth]

It would mean the difference between it being suggested and being diagnosed.

'At one point, during the pre-trial hearing, he went so far as to suggest that she is on the autism spectrum, describing her empathetic behaviour in public as different to the trickier personality she adopted in private.
‘I think Erin is very good at relating to people,’ was how he put it. ‘She’s learnt how to do that the way a high-functioning Asperger’s does, so the way she presents is high functioning… She knows how to appear to be enjoying interaction.’

https://archive.md/2025.07.07-132416/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14881551/shocking-secret-mushroom-killer-kept-Australia-GUY-ADAMS-reveals-sensational-truth-trial-rocked-nation.html#selection-1483.0-1487.240

Or just plain old manipulation??