GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #19

[SouthAussie]

In this new Australian article it says ....

(paraphrased)

Erin has spent the last two years confronting reality, but now she will feel the full force of the pain of those who survived the murders or were directly impacted.

It also says that Erin's sentence will probably come later this year.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/mushroom-killer-erin-patterson-will-face-surviving-victims-when-court-resumes/news-story/f4ded7e10ca6a187eb52c5ded1ebd794?amp

 

[SouthAussie]

Did we know this? I can't remember reading it before. This was among the evidence that was suppressed - found on a device from Erin's home.


These included an appendix from a 2007 book titled Criminal Poisonings, which listed the colour, odour, taste and lethal dose of poisons.

Convicted mushroom killer Erin Patterson to learn sentence

Convicted triple murderer Erin Patterson returns to court on Monday for the next step in her long-running case.

www.thenewdaily.com.au

 

[drsleuth]

Did we know this? I can't remember reading it before. This was among the evidence that was suppressed - found on a device from Erin's home.


These included an appendix from a 2007 book titled Criminal Poisonings, which listed the colour, odour, taste and lethal dose of poisons.

Convicted mushroom killer Erin Patterson to learn sentence

Convicted triple murderer Erin Patterson returns to court on Monday for the next step in her long-running case.

www.thenewdaily.com.au

Quite the coincidence really

Criminal Poisoning: Investigational Guide for Law Enforcement, Toxicologists, Forensic Scientists, and Attorneys​

by John H Trestrail III
In this revised and expanded edition of his critically acclaimed Criminal Poisoning: Investigational Guide for Law Enforcement, Toxicologists, Forensic Scientists, and Attorneys, leading forensic scientist John Trestrail offers a pioneering survey of all that is known about the use of poison as a weapon in murder. Topics range from the use of poisons in history and literature to convicting the poisoner in court, and include a review of the different types of poisons, techniques for crime scene investigation, and the critical essentials of the forensic autopsy. The author updates what is currently known about poisoners in general (psychological profile, types, and statistical analyses) and their victims (who gets poisoned, investigative considerations, and classic symptoms of poisoning). The Appendix has been updated to include the more commonly used poisons, as well as the use of antifreeze as a poison, to reflect some cases that have recently come to light.

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[Deleted member 367982]

I think it's possible she loved her kids but at the same time she's quite a vengeful and obsessive person, so if they did act out and showed the usual teenage resentment of parents, who knows what she would've done. JMO

She probably loved Simon at one stage and look what she tried to do to him once their marriage was over.
I think you're right and it could have ended very badly for either of her children if they wanted to side with Simon.
She's vengeful all right with a capital V and she wasn't locked up quick enough IMO

 

[Deleted member 367982]

I wonder if Simon's accountant hadn't put in the estranged part in his tax return if they all wouldn't still be alive today.

"But in 2022, Simon filed a tax return where he listed himself as single — the result of a mix-up with his accountant, he said."

'She's no dope': Who is the host of Australia's most infamous lunch?

The world has met Erin Patterson as the murderous cook behind a mushroom meal that killed three relatives. But years before her courtroom infamy, the woman from Melbourne's suburbs divided opinions.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Monstradamus]

I wonder if Simon's accountant hadn't put in the estranged part in his tax return if they all wouldn't still be alive today.

"But in 2022, Simon filed a tax return where he listed himself as single — the result of a mix-up with his accountant, he said."

'She's no dope': Who is the host of Australia's most infamous lunch?

The world has met Erin Patterson as the murderous cook behind a mushroom meal that killed three relatives. But years before her courtroom infamy, the woman from Melbourne's suburbs divided opinions.

www.abc.net.au

I think she tried to poison him long before the tax return.

 

[SouthAussie]

Quite the coincidence really

Criminal Poisoning: Investigational Guide for Law Enforcement, Toxicologists, Forensic Scientists, and Attorneys​

by John H Trestrail III
In this revised and expanded edition of his critically acclaimed Criminal Poisoning: Investigational Guide for Law Enforcement, Toxicologists, Forensic Scientists, and Attorneys, leading forensic scientist John Trestrail offers a pioneering survey of all that is known about the use of poison as a weapon in murder. Topics range from the use of poisons in history and literature to convicting the poisoner in court, and include a review of the different types of poisons, techniques for crime scene investigation, and the critical essentials of the forensic autopsy. The author updates what is currently known about poisoners in general (psychological profile, types, and statistical analyses) and their victims (who gets poisoned, investigative considerations, and classic symptoms of poisoning). The Appendix has been updated to include the more commonly used poisons, as well as the use of antifreeze as a poison, to reflect some cases that have recently come to light.

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It appears that Erin was doing some poison research, from a law enforcement/toxicologist guide!

imo

 

[Detechtive]

It appears that Erin was doing some poison research, from a law enforcement/toxicologist guide!

imo

Exactly!

 

[Detechtive]

I wonder if Simon's accountant hadn't put in the estranged part in his tax return if they all wouldn't still be alive today.

"But in 2022, Simon filed a tax return where he listed himself as single — the result of a mix-up with his accountant, he said."

'She's no dope': Who is the host of Australia's most infamous lunch?

The world has met Erin Patterson as the murderous cook behind a mushroom meal that killed three relatives. But years before her courtroom infamy, the woman from Melbourne's suburbs divided opinions.

www.abc.net.au

Simon put ‘single’ on the tax return because she was poisoning him.

 

[SouthAussie]

Simon put ‘single’ on the tax return because she was poisoning him.

Yes, in the same way that Simon removed Erin from being his medical power of attorney. He was obviously trying to get away from her, without something worse happening. Only it did.

imo


He changed these directives so that his father, Don Patterson, not his estranged wife, was listed as his medical power of attorney, Ford said.

What the jury wasn't allowed to hear in the Erin Patterson trial: suspicions and mystery illnesses

Material and claims the jury in Australia’s mushroom lunch murder trial wasn’t allowed to hear can be reported after a suppression order was lifted

www.theguardian.com

 

[MrJ]

The most dangerous time in an abusive relationship is when trying to leave.

 

[JBowie]

In this new Australian article it says ....

(paraphrased)

Erin has spent the last two years confronting reality, but now she will feel the full force of the pain of those who survived the murders or were directly impacted.

It also says that Erin's sentence will probably come later this year.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/mushroom-killer-erin-patterson-will-face-surviving-victims-when-court-resumes/news-story/f4ded7e10ca6a187eb52c5ded1ebd794?amp

(also paraphrased)

Numerous victim impact statements are expected by the prosecution.

 

[Detechtive]

I think she tried to poison him long before the tax return.

She was looking up red kidney bean poisons in late 2019 when she was trying to 'reconcile' with him.

 

[Detechtive]

Her kid's food. She messed with her kid's food.

She admitted sneaking powdered mushrooms into their food. That really creeped me out since she was practicing how to poison future meals, by testing food on her kids.

If she had not been caught, what do we think might have happened, if one of her kids turned into typical teenagers that act out and have outbursts and growing pains? I think we have all seen how teens go through emotional growing pains and 'hate' us for awhile because we tell them they can't go to a college beer bash at 16.

How do we think Erin might have reacted if her kids did things she did not like? Would she have baked them a special meal?

I don't think that was the only time she messed with other peoples food, IMO!

 

[Deleted member 363451]

Mushroom murderer Erin Patterson will face the families of her victims at a plea hearing. Here’s what to expect | Erin Patterson mushroom trial | The Guardian Mushroom murderer Erin Patterson will face the families of her victims at a plea hearing. Here’s what to expect

 

[windrower]

I've said it before but this case is shockingly similar to that of Sarah Boone nee Paulson in the USA who tortured and murdered her partner, tricking him into getting inside a suitcase, rendering him trapped and beating him with a baseball bat, pushing him down stairs inside the case, and leaving him to die over several hours of suffocation, pleading and crying for help.

She turned down a 15 year plea deal. She went through 8 lawyers. She's serving life with no parole.

JMO MOO

Iirc, LE had a recording (can’t recall whether just audio or visual, too) of much of the suitcase murder.

SB sure thought she was smarter, better, more everything than anyone else. Same as EP.

Thanks for this - I haven't heard of that case. Going to look!

Don’t miss SB’s poster ad for an attorney.

These two “ladies” are sorry excuses for humans. IMO

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I can't remember who first asked about the lies but:

Most damaging lie: the gastric-band

Most absurd lie: the bush poo

Most racist lie: the Asian grocer

Most concocted lie: how the DC mushrooms got in the mix

I think the most absurd lie is ovarian cancer in the elbow.
IMO it's also the most damaging lie as it's the thing that lured the family together

100% with the racism, let's just blame random 'Asians' for some vicious torturous murders.

Most convoluted lie: the dehydrator, before and after LE finding the instruction manual and her tip trip. No I never had one, never foraged anything, never preserved or dried out any foodstuffs ... oh yes, I did do all those things.

 

[Monstradamus]

Latest ABC article

Erin Patterson to appear for first time since guilty murder verdict

Victims of Erin Patterson and their loved ones will face the triple-murderer in Victoria's Supreme Court today, as they give statements to the court ahead of her sentencing.

www.abc.net.au

 

[MrJ]

Good morning. Today is day one of the pre sentencing hearing. I'm pretty sure the ABC will be covering it so I'll update the thread starting at around 10:30 am my time which is a little over three hours away for international people.

 

[Bekind89]

Good morning. Today is day one of the pre sentencing hearing. I'm pretty sure the ABC will be covering it so I'll update the thread starting at around 10:30 am my time which is a little over three hours away for international people.

Thank you, much appreciated!