GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #19

[MrJ]

I find it very ironic that EP’s middle name is Trudi when she’s told so many falsehoods

 

[bfew]

I find it very ironic that EP’s middle name is Trudi when she’s told so many falsehoods

Lianne would be much more appropriate.

 

[MrJ]

I wonder if this will be seriously put forward by the defence as a reason to give her a lesser sentence:

Erin says she struggled with self-esteem​

By Joseph Dunstan and Melissa Brown​

Erin tells the court she struggled with parts of herself.

"I had been fighting a never-ending battle of low self-esteem most of my adult life. And the further inroads I made into being middle aged, the less I felt good about myself, I suppose. Put on my weight, could handle exercise less," she says.

She agrees her low self-esteem was mainly about her weight and she planned to have gastric bypass surgery.

Erin Patterson tells murder trial about relationship with estranged husband — as it happened

Erin Patterson's triple murder trial continues in Morwell. She's charged with three counts of murder over the deaths of three relatives who died from after eating a meal she prepared containing death cap mushrooms.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Ellery84]

Is anyone here a subscriber to the HeraldSun?

‘Brilliant but unhinged’: Inside Erin Patterson’s high school days​

Fresh details have emerged about mushroom cook Erin Patterson’s time at high school, with the triple murderer described as being a “super bright” student but “a little bit odd”.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Ftruecrimeaustralia%2Fpolice-courts-victoria%2Finside-erin-pattersons-high-school-days-triple-murderer-described-as-brilliant-but-unhinged-in-teen-years%2Fnews-story%2Fd563bedb1f984a7cd3621b628c7a73e2&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-1-SCORE

No I’m not a subscriber but I kind of wish I was at the moment!!

 

[Ellery84]

I don't think I can cope with this dragging on another 2 weeks. Hope it's on Tuesday! It's been over 2 years now!

Why would they bring up a DUI now? Is it part of sentencing for the murders? Genuinely confused.

 

[Detechtive]

Why would they bring up a DUI now? Is it part of sentencing for the murders? Genuinely confused.

I wasn't the person who said this but past convictions can be raised to show a pattern of criminal conduct. IMO

 

[Monstradamus]

Why would they bring up a DUI now? Is it part of sentencing for the murders? Genuinely confused.

It was suppressed for the murder trial, but could the Prosecution use it to go against her "good" character?

 

[Monstradamus]

Is anyone here a subscriber to the HeraldSun?

‘Brilliant but unhinged’: Inside Erin Patterson’s high school days​

Fresh details have emerged about mushroom cook Erin Patterson’s time at high school, with the triple murderer described as being a “super bright” student but “a little bit odd”.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Ftruecrimeaustralia%2Fpolice-courts-victoria%2Finside-erin-pattersons-high-school-days-triple-murderer-described-as-brilliant-but-unhinged-in-teen-years%2Fnews-story%2Fd563bedb1f984a7cd3621b628c7a73e2&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-1-SCORE

https://archive.md/MnyDn

 

[Deleted member 363451]

https://archive.md/MnyDn

Thank you so much.

 

[Detechtive]

Robert Farquharson was the last person sentenced for triple murder - and he got life with 33 years parole for deliberately killing his three sons.

Surely Erin's sentence has to be at least that, plus a few more for the attempted murder of Ian. Life with 40 years, perhaps?

Robert Farquharson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

IMO

 

[Monstradamus]

I'm hoping LWOP.
Maybe if she had only killed one person she would get parole. But 3, nearly 4?
Surely she is a danger to society forever?

 

[Monstradamus]

I'm also very interested to see if there's been a psychological report done on her.

 

[Detechtive]

I'm hoping LWOP.
Maybe if she had only killed one person she would get parole. But 3, nearly 4?
Surely she is a danger to society forever?

For someone who is 51, Life with 40 would practically be LWOP.
I hope for LWOP too, but they are hesitant to give that sentence because it discourages prisoners to rehabilitate or have good behaviour. IMO

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I'm now 100% convinced that Erin put something(s) in the restroom bins that she was concerned could implicate her in her crimes (that was not fake soiled tissues).

Watching the vid again a few times, it so much looks like Erin is checking the movements in and out of that restroom door very closely whilst loitering around the sandwiches.

She probably only bought the sandwiches as a cover for why she was using the sandwich open fridge area as cover to check out the restroom door area, in case anyone came out with what she had just dumped in one of the restroom bins, that was the sort of item someone might take out of a bin, such as an electronic item like a phone or a digital storage drive.

My money is on her disposing of whatever it was in the sanitary bin. The next person to use it would not see inside it, and no doubt the company that disposes of the contents are likely not to see anything untoward either.

 

[Detechtive]

I'm also very interested to see if there's been a psychological report done on her.

There most certainly will be, because it's mandatory when they are taken into custody, whether she agreed or not. IMO

 

[Detechtive]

I wonder if this will be seriously put forward by the defence as a reason to give her a lesser sentence:

Erin says she struggled with self-esteem​

​

By Joseph Dunstan and Melissa Brown​

Erin tells the court she struggled with parts of herself.

"I had been fighting a never-ending battle of low self-esteem most of my adult life. And the further inroads I made into being middle aged, the less I felt good about myself, I suppose. Put on my weight, could handle exercise less," she says.

She agrees her low self-esteem was mainly about her weight and she planned to have gastric bypass surgery.

Erin Patterson tells murder trial about relationship with estranged husband — as it happened

Erin Patterson's triple murder trial continues in Morwell. She's charged with three counts of murder over the deaths of three relatives who died from after eating a meal she prepared containing death cap mushrooms.

www.abc.net.au

I have no pity for her. She sat on her backside all day causing trouble for people online and obsessively listening to true crime. She isolated herself. She could have been taking the dog for a walk on the beach and seeing a nutritionist or therapist with all of her millions, or you know, giving back to society - volunteering, or actually working like the rest of us. But no, she spent her time causing trouble in peoples lives.

IMO

 

[HoneyBunOne]

“She was quiet, reserved and didn’t get involved in the wider group,” the former student recalled.

“She really kept on the periphery and kept herself to herself.”

She said students in the acceleration program were “super bright” and spent the first several years of high school whipping through the curriculum in separate classes.

She described these students as “smart and boffiny”, but often a “little bit odd”.

“But there was a little bit of joviality between the mainstream students and the Taskforce students about the fact they were a bit nerdy,” she added.

As for Patterson, she was a “STEM girl” with a passion for math and science.

Above is some of the more interesting stuff from the following article (pretty sure it's less than 10% of the article):

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-victoria/inside-erin-pattersons-high-school-days-triple-murderer-described-as-brilliant-but-unhinged-in-teen-years/news-story/d563bedb1f984a7cd3621b628c7a73e2

 

[HoneyBunOne]

My money is on her disposing of whatever it was in the sanitary bin. The next person to use it would not see inside it, and no doubt the company that disposes of the contents are likely not to see anything untoward either.

Quoting myself, because why not?

For those not familiar with the workings of a sanitary bin, they are designed so as to not really be able to see into, because really, why would you want to, given the contents? There are a few different varieties, but essentially they open up and have somewhat of an angled tray, where you put your items to be disposed of, then as you close the lid, the items slide off into the contents of the bin. If you were to open the bin again right after, the items have fallen into the bin and there is no evidence of what was last disposed of.

Therefore, a sanitary bin, IMO, is a much better, safer way to dispose of something you don't want any later visitors to be able to see, than a regular rubbish bin (with a lid or not).

 

[Detechtive]

Quoting myself, because why not?

For those not familiar with the workings of a sanitary bin, they are designed so as to not really be able to see into, because really, why would you want to, given the contents? There are a few different varieties, but essentially they open up and have somewhat of an angled tray, where you put your items to be disposed of, then as you close the lid, the items slide of into the contents of the bin. If you were to open the bin again right after, the items have fallen into the bin and there is no evidence of what was last disposed of.

Therefore, a sanitary bin, IMO, is a much better, safer way to dispose of something you don't want any later visitors to be able to see, than a regular rubbish bin (with a lid or not).

I agree, but, I read somewhere that there is no toilet room/cubicle/area directly inside that door. There is a long hall to the end where the separate M/F/Disabled rest rooms are. If this is true, she wouldn't have had time unless there was some sort of bin right inside that entrance door. IMO

 

[Kemug]

Surely not. I don't think there's any automatic right to do so, is there? It would be at the judge's discretion - if, say, she wanted to express remorse.

I can't see her getting beyond "I'm so sorry I mixed the mushrooms up, I'm so sorry because I loved them so much, and now my life is ruined! Oh woe is me!"