GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #20
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Are the judges there allowed to order psych or autism evaluations if they felt it would be necessary? If he could have but didn't, then that might mean he's not buying what she's selling.2m ago07.23 BST
Touching on the defence’s submission about Patterson having “Asperger syndrome”, Warren says it is “hearsay” and the “evidence isn’t there.”
Beale says Patterson doesn’t have “a lot of credibility”.
Erin Patterson plea hearing: mushroom murderer’s prison conditions ‘don’t sound very humane’, judge says – as it happened
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Patterson’s fate to be decided September 8
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September 8 is the date Erin Patterson will learn her fate – whether that be life in prison without the possibility of parole, as the prosecution has requested, or life with the possibility of the poisoner one day walking outside of jail once again.Ian Wilkinson, the sole survivor of the fatal beef Wellington lunch, nodded in acknowledgment as the judge confirmed the date and location – Melbourne.
We will be back with live coverage for the sentencing at 9.30am in September.
The ‘elaborate’ cover-up after the beef Wellington lunch and the single word that might have changed everything
September 8 is the date Erin Patterson will learn her fate – whether that be life in prison without the possibility of parole, as the prosecution has requested, or life with the possibility of the poisoner one day walking outside of jail once again.
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Crown: Erin intended to kill guests when she invited them to lunch
Ms Warren said Erin must have had an intention to use the death cap mushrooms on “somebody” when she picked them.
More specifically, she said she had an intention to kill the lunch guests when she invited them to the lunch on July 16, but when exactly she formed this intention was “anyone’s guess”.
“Our argument was that she invited the other lunch guests to try to persuade Simon Patterson to attend as well,” she said.
“He had been reluctant to attend any occasion where she was preparing food.”
But Justice Beale asked Ms Warren whether there would be an issue with punishing Erin for an offence that she has not been charged with.
Ms Warren replied that the fact Erin had prepared a fifth poisoned beef wellington for Simon was nothing more than a “relevant factor” in the sentencing process.
Crown: Erin intended to kill guests when she invited them to lunch
Ms Warren said Erin must have had an intention to use the death cap mushrooms on “somebody” when she picked them.
More specifically, she said she had an intention to kill the lunch guests when she invited them to the lunch on July 16, but when exactly she formed this intention was “anyone’s guess”.
“Our argument was that she invited the other lunch guests to try to persuade Simon Patterson to attend as well,” she said.
“He had been reluctant to attend any occasion where she was preparing food.”
But Justice Beale asked Ms Warren whether there would be an issue with punishing Erin for an offence that she has not been charged with.
Ms Warren replied that the fact Erin had prepared a fifth poisoned beef wellington for Simon was nothing more than a “relevant factor” in the sentencing process.
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He will sentence Erin Patterson on September 8 at 9.30am.
During a sentencing, a judge will summarise the case, the prosecution and defence arguments about the length of the jail term, and the victim impact statements before announcing a decision.
Sentencing remarks can range from 30 minutes to hours, depending on the level of detail a judge wishes to include and the complexities of the case they are dealing with.
Erin Patterson will receive a head sentence, the longest time she can be jailed for, and possibly a non-parole period, which is the length of time she must serve before she can apply to be released.
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What happens next?
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Justice Christopher Beale will consider all the material put before him over the plea hearing, including both oral and written submissions.He will sentence Erin Patterson on September 8 at 9.30am.
During a sentencing, a judge will summarise the case, the prosecution and defence arguments about the length of the jail term, and the victim impact statements before announcing a decision.
Sentencing remarks can range from 30 minutes to hours, depending on the level of detail a judge wishes to include and the complexities of the case they are dealing with.
Erin Patterson will receive a head sentence, the longest time she can be jailed for, and possibly a non-parole period, which is the length of time she must serve before she can apply to be released.
The ‘elaborate’ cover-up after the beef Wellington lunch and the single word that might have changed everything
September 8 is the date Erin Patterson will learn her fate – whether that be life in prison without the possibility of parole, as the prosecution has requested, or life with the possibility of the poisoner one day walking outside of jail once again.
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Well, Erin's a WASP if ever I saw one.
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He says he is confident Patterson will remain isolated for a long time.
Beale tells the court that Patterson’s “notoriety is not going to diminish.”
But Warren argues her fame will die down, noting “at some point people will lose interest”.
When asked when this could occur, Warren says she cannot estimate how long this would be. Beale says he anticipates Paterson would remain isolated for a long time.
Warren argues against Beale imposing a fixed non-parole period, saying this would be inappropriate.
Beale says he will sentence Patterson on 8 September.
The court adjourns.
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Patterson’s 'notoriety is not going to diminish', judge says
As the prosecution touches on Patterson’s custody conditions, Beale says it “doesn’t sound very humane.”He says he is confident Patterson will remain isolated for a long time.
Beale tells the court that Patterson’s “notoriety is not going to diminish.”
But Warren argues her fame will die down, noting “at some point people will lose interest”.
When asked when this could occur, Warren says she cannot estimate how long this would be. Beale says he anticipates Paterson would remain isolated for a long time.
Warren argues against Beale imposing a fixed non-parole period, saying this would be inappropriate.
Beale says he will sentence Patterson on 8 September.
The court adjourns.
Erin Patterson plea hearing: mushroom murderer’s prison conditions ‘don’t sound very humane’, judge says – as it happened
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Maybe just word processing and solitaire?
It’s crazy to me that after all of this time, Erin has not had a proper medical or psych assessment.
Someone, make it make sense.
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"It felt good at the time"?
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Her parents only lived into their 60s and early 70s and she's obese, unhealthy, and a miserable human. I doubt she would live longer than them.
“Meals are provided to Patterson through a trapdoor”
She should count herself lucky that she's fed at all.
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I believe if she had undergone assessment she would get less than the 30 year parole period her own lawyer was touting for.
She was blatantly guilty from the time she put four lunch guests on their death beds (one extremely lucky to survive) and a fifth who she was relentlessly trying to poison multiple times could also have died if he hadn't turned the invitation down.
It's crazy to me that she didn't just plead guilty from the start. Forget Mandy and keep her $2m.
Armed with her assessments to say her mind wasn't functioning correctly because of how it was wired, she could have told the court herself that she would sort her mental state out in prison, say sorry to her surviving victims by handing over to them all her assets and I think she would have been out in 20 to 25 years.
By undergoing programs and therapy in prison to help her rehabilitate would be far more beneficial than her crocheting. IMO
Doubtless that'll be the Asperger's kicking in.
As I've said before, IMO an American-type sentence is called for: life plus 100 years for each deceased victim, to be served consecutively.
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