GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #20

[Ellery84]

Speaking of which... this comment by Erin hits differently since the murders....

Well, what was it in response to?

 

[Detechtive]

I'm referring to the reports from people who have worked with her. My point is if she continues with her custom of dissing people who she looks down on and/or who disagree with her point of view then she can expect retaliation: be that instant or when she least expects it.

I haven't seen any comments by people who work with her - only other inmates, who don't generally have much credibility IMO

 

[Ellery84]

I haven't seen any comments by people who work with her - only other inmates, who don't generally have much credibility IMO

Giving comments in exchange for commissary; doesn’t really ensure the most credible information.

IMO

 

[Detechtive]

Well, what was it in response to?

Someone spelling incorrectly.

 

[Ellery84]

Someone spelling incorrectly.

Yeah so, she’s officially unhinged.

 

[Detechtive]

She may not have any financial means with which to fund an appeal. IMO

She is allowed legal aid when her funds are exhausted. They aren't any less competent than normal SC's - they are from the exact same pool as commercial criminal lawyers. She will get a hot-shot legal team on the public purse, of course.

I really hate that our court processes are so tight but also so open to exploitation by cretins like Erin Patterson. IMO

 

[JBowie]

I haven't seen any comments by people who work with her - only other inmates, who don't generally have much credibility IMO

I have read a few articles quoting people who either worked with her or knew her personally. Some may be behind paywalls, but I refer broadly to this reputation and behaviour, none of which will be accepted in prison without consequences:

The unnamed person also told how she was dubbed “crazy Erin” and “would say some weird off-the-cuff things”. They added how she was “super secretive” and “wasn't a nice person, she just wasn't someone you connected to”.

While another colleague alleged she had placed a pencil sharpener blade in a banana. They told The Australian: “No one could prove that, but she had a way about her that was off-putting.”

The ex-colleague also said she was “manipulative” and a “pathological liar”

Insulting 3-word nickname colleagues gave 'mushroom murderer' who killed family

Erin Patterson laced a beef Wellington with poisonous mushrooms for a dinner which led to the deaths of three relatives, and now former work colleagues in Australia have told about her odd behaviour

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[JBowie]

Some more open source reports from former co-workers [bbm]:

Former co-workers told ABC she was “abrupt and abrasive”, and said she refused to join in social activities with colleagues.

Several nicknamed her “Scutter the Nutter” and “crazy Erin”. Others described her as “clever” but “manipulative”, with one saying she could “snap at the drop of a hat”.

One former colleague summed it up to ABC News as: “She was a ritual, habitual and pathological liar. She would just say anything to get away with anything.”

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[Tortoise]

"There's been no remorse shown," Ms Warren says.

"No, she maintains her innocence," Justice Beale says.

RSBM

He seems to be overlooking the fact that she could have provided information to the doctors, but she chose not to. She had no second thoughts about them, in their suffering, even if she claimed it was committed without intention.

 

[JBowie]

"There's been no remorse shown," Ms Warren says.

"No, she maintains her innocence," Justice Beale says.

On that, it struck me that when the guilty verdicts were declared I gather that there was zero reaction from her. Ordinarily I would have expected shaking of head, and/or an outcry such as "You're wrong. I didn't do it", etc.

 

[Moll]

She is allowed legal aid when her funds are exhausted. They aren't any less competent than normal SC's - they are from the exact same pool as commercial criminal lawyers. She will get a hot-shot legal team on the public purse, of course.

I really hate that our court processes are so tight but also so open to exploitation by cretins like Erin Patterson. IMO

From Mandy's comments it hardly seems possible that she is going to appeal the verdict. The sentence when it comes, maybe.

 

[Kemug]

Please my dear friends, can you stop talking about orange cake? Coles make a lovely one, and today I succumbed

 

[Tortoise]

It wouldn't take me two weeks to decide she should never be released. She will always be a risk, given this was poisoning, the most passive form of killing. Her victims were harmless and family members no less. The judge heard all the evidence months ago. I don't have much faith that she will get LWOP, unfortunately.

 

[SouthAussie]

She is allowed legal aid when her funds are exhausted. They aren't any less competent than normal SC's - they are from the exact same pool as commercial criminal lawyers. She will get a hot-shot legal team on the public purse, of course.

I really hate that our court processes are so tight but also so open to exploitation by cretins like Erin Patterson. IMO

I think that Vic Legal Aid are more particular about giving funds for an appeal. Their criteria gets stricter (than for a trial). For example, the appeal must have a good chance of success - as well as the applicant meeting the means test and the merit test.

imo

Guideline 7.7 – appeal against conviction/conviction and sentence in the Court of Appeal

Handbook guideline 7.7 appeal against conviction conviction and sentence in the Court of Appeal.

www.handbook.vla.vic.gov.au

 

[Deleted member 363451]

30 years plus - that's a whole lot of crocheted blankets! The homeless people of Melbourne will be warm at last! Thank you Erin!

I was just talking to a friend of mine about the case and he couldn't get over Colin Mandy saying to keep her in for 30 years non parole.

 

[Ellery84]

I was just talking to a friend of mine about the case and he couldn't get over Colin Mandy saying to keep her in for 30 years non parole.

I’m not a legal person, but even I was shocked. What’s Erin even paying for? She should have just self-represented. IMO

 

[MrJ]

She should have just self-represented. IMO

That would've been even more entertaining to read on the live blogs, but what we got was just as shocking too

 

[Tortoise]

She says the prosecution is calling for a maximum penalty for the murder charges. But she says it does not make the same submission for the attempted murder charge.

RSBM BBM

I'm not sure what she meant by this.

 

[Ellery84]

That would've been even more entertaining to read on the live blogs, but what we got was just as shocking too

At least Erin could have sold her houses and kept the money in trusts for her children to help them to somehow get an education or pay for counselling, but no…she didn't do that.

 

[Ellery84]

RSBM BBM

I'm not sure what she meant by this.

It just means they’re looking more at the murder charges as carrying more weight than the attempted murder charge, is how I took it.

IMO