GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #21

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And I believe Simon now has longterm health problems too. Not to mention the children's probable mental health problems.
It's definitely a long lasting ripple effect.
She has ruined so many lives, and does not deserve to see the light of day ever again, imo.
 
  • #102
I don’t understand why it’s a specific sentencing issue for Erin as opposed to a penal system issue. Why would the court become involved in considering her sentence based on hardship when the Australian penal system could and may make positive changes over the years? Does this mean every prisoner confined to solitary is entitled to shorter prison time?

IMO if prison time is inhumane then fix it, don’t allow a criminal to benefit! Grr.
 
  • #103
I don’t understand why it’s a specific sentencing issue for Erin as opposed to a penal system issue. Why would the court become involved in considering her sentence based on hardship when the Australian penal system could and may make positive changes over the years? Does this mean every prisoner confined to solitary is entitled to shorter prison time?

IMO if prison time is inhumane then fix it, don’t allow a criminal to benefit! Grr.

I doubt any such 'hardship' argument will swing the Appeals Court. After all, child molesters and other despicable scum, are usually isolated for the term of their imprisonment.
 
  • #104
I don’t understand why it’s a specific sentencing issue for Erin as opposed to a penal system issue. Why would the court become involved in considering her sentence based on hardship when the Australian penal system could and may make positive changes over the years? Does this mean every prisoner confined to solitary is entitled to shorter prison time?

IMO if prison time is inhumane then fix it, don’t allow a criminal to benefit! Grr.
I agree the system needs fixing; court is not the place to do it. Solitary confinement for endless years would surely be against Human Rights. In Australia, our prison system is not barbaric. We should not equate Erin Patterson who targeted her crimes with the likes of Martin Bryant who randomly shot over 30 people dead.
 
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I agree the system needs fixing; court is not the place to do it. Solitary confinement for endless years would surely be against Human Rights. In Australia, our prison system is not barbaric. We should not equate Erin Patterson who targeted her crimes with the likes of Martin Bryant who randomly shot over 30 people dead.
Martin Bryant had mental health issues. Erin doesn’t. IMO
 
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Martin Bryant had mental health issues. Erin doesn’t. IMO
DO you think people should be sentenced on their mental health issues and IQ? Or should they be sentenced on their crime?
 
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  • #109
DO you think people should be sentenced on their mental health issues and IQ? Or should they be sentenced on their crime?

If they have mental health issues, they should be getting treatment in a facility which also protects the public from them, IMO. If they have a personality disorder, like Erin does (IMO) she is not able to be rehabilitated.

It is awful to compare crimes. But someone with a low IQ and mental health issues certainly has diminished capacity, as opposed to somebody of sound mind with a high IQ who plans on killing people over the course of years.

The court sees mental health issues as important in sentencing, so of course I do. IMO
 
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If they have mental health issues, they should be getting treatment in a facility which also protects them from the public, IMO. If they have a personality disorder, like Erin does (IMO) she is not able to be rehabilitated.

It is awful to compare crimes. But someone with a low IQ and mental health issues certainly has diminished capacity, as opposed to somebody of sound mind with a high IQ who plans on killing people over the course of years.

The court sees mental health issues as important in sentencing, so of course I do. IMO
And Erin would still be capable of poisoning people in her '80's if she got out then. The general public wouldn't necessarily be safe just because they weren't her family members.
 
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If they have mental health issues, they should be getting treatment in a facility which also protects the public from them, IMO. If they have a personality disorder, like Erin does (IMO) she is not able to be rehabilitated.

It is awful to compare crimes. But someone with a low IQ and mental health issues certainly has diminished capacity, as opposed to somebody of sound mind with a high IQ who plans on killing people over the course of years.

The court sees mental health issues as important in sentencing, so of course I do. IMO
I have connections to the 2 girls and their mother murdered at Port Arthur. Bryant having mental issues has no bearing on grief.
 

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