Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a flight from Queensland, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025 *Arrests* #3

[Detechtive]

This concerns me. Given that Pheobe was not buried, was out in the open in an environment with wild animals, and it having been 3 weeks since her death, they may not be able to determine a definite COD.
Still I suppose, investigators seemingly do have enough evidence that this was a murder, whether done in a fit of rage, spontaneous, or otherwise.

We can rule out stabbing or gunshots nearly immediately, in this case, given this statement. Those are obvious nearly immediately, regardless of state of decomposition.

Strangulation and blunt force trauma are then left. IMO

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

We can rule out stabbing or gunshots nearly immediately, in this case, given this statement. Those are obvious nearly immediately, regardless of state of decomposition.

Strangulation and blunt force trauma are then left. IMO

Stragulation is a rare cause of death. The reason is it takes over 4 minutes of constant blocked airway to result in someone dying. Could they have taken her and shot her and nobody heard gun shot? I suspect they dragged her from the car, maybe punching and kicking her? Maybe tied her up or gagged her (with JW's track pants) leaving her defenceless and dragged her somewhere (in the huge grey holdall). Doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[Mercina]

The pieces of this horrendous puzzle are slowly coming together.

1. We now know that the house was not the place of the alleged murder.
2. We know that the call made to PB's boyfriend was made by her.
3. We know that the PB's body was moved twice
4. Neither of the accused handed themselves in to the police.


We also have JW latest statement to the media which revealed a few details that, along with previously-verified information, should be considered likely;

A) JW was driving the vehicle. TB was in the front passenger seat and PB in the back.

B) JW has previously committed acts of DV against TB yet during the 3 week period where both were being interviewed and subsequently arrested, TB did not attempt to roll on JW and utilize a DV defence. This despite the magistrate declaring that TB was not a risk of reacquainting herself with JW (inferring a disharmony amongst the two)

C) Police were initially inaccurate with their first search, later stating that they searched a similar access track 9kms away from their first attempt. This would indicate that they were tipped off to the location but not directly shown where to look. This is critical information and should not be overlooked. Most likely an anonymous phone call, but someone gave them a description of the area.


Again, my theory as follows:

The argument escalated to the point where JW approached the airport terminal but drove straight past it. This may have been to enrage PB or to assert control. He then turned around at the BMX club just past the airport. This sent PB into a panic and she most likely tried to exit but was unable to do so. As the journey progressed back to the main road PB possibly attempted to break free which resulted in an enraged TB attacking her inside the vehicle (what with is unknown). With the two fighting in the car (PB most likely being overpowered by the much larger TB) JW pulls off onto Samuels road (30 second drive from airport Rd) and pulls the vehicle over. PB met her demise here. She was then taken to the first dumping ground and disposed of in a hurry. She was relocated to a more discreet location at a later date.

TB was the instigator and primary culprit. This is why she has not turned on JW.
This was not premeditated as I've discussed previously. This was reactionary. There was no rendering PB unconscious and/or binding and gagging as it this would require planning. If police suspected this they would add kidnapping to the charge of murder.

I will further speculate that PB was most likely strangled/choked to death. Limited space inside the vehicle, weight disparity between her and the accused and the lack of suitable evidence to charge from the first impoundment of the vehicle suggests a clean homicide. A struggle would definitely occured but evidence of a struggle wouldn't look to dissimilar to the state the vehicle was generally kept by the accused.

 

[Mercina]

In his Daily Mail interview JW said that TB was driving.

 

[Detechtive]

Stragulation is a rare cause of death. The reason is it takes over 4 minutes of constant blocked airway to result in someone dying. Could they have taken her and shot her and nobody heard gun shot? I suspect they dragged her from the car, maybe punching and kicking her? Maybe tied her up or gagged her (with JW's track pants) leaving her defenceless and dragged her somewhere (in the huge grey holdall). Doesn't bear thinking about.

It only takes 5-10 seconds to render someone unconscious via strangulation. Strangulation is usually a method used by intimate partners, though.
I still think it was blunt force trauma, probably from the gun. IMO

 

[Cleety_]

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We can rule out stabbing or gunshots nearly immediately, in this case, given this statement. Those are obvious nearly immediately, regardless of state of decomposition.

Strangulation and blunt force trauma are then left. IMO

Or overdose/ poison
But I do however think this was blunt force or strangulation

 

[mishy66]

The initial police report stated:
Pheobe Bishop, pictured, was last seen at Airport Drive, Bundaberg around 8.30am on May 15.

I think the times mentioned outside of that have come from the media and may be unreliable.

I think some of the media are doing a great job covering this case and getting out what information they can to avoid legalities

Without media, no one would have any details!
Media, Witnesses and timelines all make up a clearer picture.

If it wasn't for Media, cases like these would probably never be solved! Witnesses come forward when they read accounts from the media!

The DM who has been on the ground in Gin Gin from the start stated the call to PB boyfriend was made at around 8.30am BEFORE they left for Bundaberg


"about 8.30am, before they’d left Gin Gin for Bundaberg, Pheobe called her boyfriend to let him know she was on the way. "

Daily Mail Australia previously reported the boyfriend claimed he heard shouting during the call. The boyfriend later told a friend: 'They were both yelling at her and I couldn't really hear her.'

Pheobe Bishop's housemate James Wood breaks his silence

The flatmate of missing teenager Pheobe Bishop has revealed explosive new details about the her car ride to the airport on the day she disappeared.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The *8am* IGA tale JW told about getting drinks, could actually be a cover by him, for something else that was maybe witnessed in that area that morning.

I think there is a LOT of information not known to the media and public and that every theory is valid at this point in time.

""We will allege that three people arrived near to the airport, and that three people never left that vehicle," Detective Inspector Mansfield said at a press conference on Friday morning

Police say remains found in search for Pheobe Bishop

Police say they have found what is believed to be human remains in the search for missing Queensland teenager Pheobe Bishop.

www.abc.net.au

3 people arrived. 3 people never left the vehicle.

There is a theory there that it could be that they all drove back to Gin Gin!?
Car shown 10.30 am back into Gin Gin

Maybe something happened back at the house AFTER returning from the airport ? That would really escalate an already volatile situation.

And whereby the television was smashed.

It could be that the alleged murder didn't happen anywhere near the airport.

It could be that the murder took place back at the house and then his car was used to transport PB to GNP later that evening.
 
Have yet to hear the police say, PB was murdered at Bundaberg Airport vicinity and then her body was buried nearby.

All Ive heard and read is TB car was seen in the Airport area with 3 people in it and that no one LEFT that vehicle.

JMO

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/footage-of-car-central-to-investigation-of-missing-gin-gin-teen-emerges/news-story/c127a53b3a6bdd2fae4060ba335ca163

 

[Marg944]

Some mobile towers around Goodnight Scrub National Park that I had posted on Monday, which would have been a part of the telecommunications research data.

Radio Frequency National Site Archive

www.rfnsa.com.au

 

[Marg944]

James Wood, 34, and Tanika Bromley, 33, are both facing one count each of murder, and two counts each of interfering with a corpse after their arrest on Thursday night.

Police say they expect to find Pheobe Bishop's body as housemates charged with murder

James Wood, 34, and Tanika Bromley, 33, are both facing one count each of murder, and two counts each of interfering with a corpse.

www.abc.net.au

Yep. That news article was really informative. Doesn’t say that Pheobe was moved on 2 occasions, nor anything about the phone call. I don’t understand the relevance?

 

[mishy66]

Stragulation is a rare cause of death. The reason is it takes over 4 minutes of constant blocked airway to result in someone dying. Could they have taken her and shot her and nobody heard gun shot? I suspect they dragged her from the car, maybe punching and kicking her? Maybe tied her up or gagged her (with JW's track pants) leaving her defenceless and dragged her somewhere (in the huge grey holdall). Doesn't bear thinking about.

They had about 30 mins to do anything looking at the timing.

I honestly can't see how they could possibly do this , given the area Police say the car was spotted. No gunshot. People would have been reporting gun shots near the airport.

 

[bearbear]

We can rule out stabbing or gunshots nearly immediately, in this case, given this statement. Those are obvious nearly immediately, regardless of state of decomposition.

Strangulation and blunt force trauma are then left. IMO

lethal dose of drugs?

 

[ellugh]

Accidental......no doubt this will be what they claim, hoping for manslaughter instead of murder.
Who knows though at this point if it was accidental?
But manner and cause of death is still to be determined. Hopefully possible and fully determined after 3 weeks.

note ss 302(2) - 302(4) of the Criminal Code
It is "immiterial" that the person did not intend to hurt the person killed/hurt anyone/did not intend to cause death
i.e. they can't simply just say it was an accident and automatically recieve a manslaughter charge.

IMO they may have offered TB a plea deal... if allegedly she was driving the car and JW allegedly committed the act, she may have disclosed information to police in exchange for a manslaughter charge. s 303 defines manslaughter as "unlawfully kills another under such circumstances as not to constitute murder" - allegedly being present for the act and not intervening could be sufficient to constitute manslaughter, but not murder.

JMO, MOO, everything is alleged

CRIMINAL CODE 1899 - SECT 302 murder

www5.austlii.edu.au

CRIMINAL CODE 1899 - SECT 303 manslaughter

www5.austlii.edu.au

 

[mishy66]

Yep. That news article was really informative. Doesn’t say that Pheobe was moved on 2 occasions, nor anything about the phone call. I don’t understand the relevance?

Yes, I didn't realise until now you had also added the same news article to your post.

 

[scepticalscotty]

I think some of the media are doing a great job covering this case and getting out what information they can to avoid legalities

Without media, no one would have any details!
Media, Witnesses and timelines all make up a clearer picture.

If it wasn't for Media, cases like these would probably never be solved! Witnesses come forward when they read accounts from the media!

The DM who has been on the ground in Gin Gin from the start stated the call to PB boyfriend was made at around 8.30am BEFORE they left for Bundaberg


"about 8.30am, before they’d left Gin Gin for Bundaberg, Pheobe called her boyfriend to let him know she was on the way. "

Daily Mail Australia previously reported the boyfriend claimed he heard shouting during the call. The boyfriend later told a friend: 'They were both yelling at her and I couldn't really hear her.'

Pheobe Bishop's housemate James Wood breaks his silence

The flatmate of missing teenager Pheobe Bishop has revealed explosive new details about the her car ride to the airport on the day she disappeared.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The *8am* IGA tale JW told about getting drinks, could actually be a cover by him, for something else that was maybe witnessed in that area that morning.

I think there is a LOT of information not known to the media and public and that every theory is valid at this point in time.

""We will allege that three people arrived near to the airport, and that three people never left that vehicle," Detective Inspector Mansfield said at a press conference on Friday morning

Police say remains found in search for Pheobe Bishop

Police say they have found what is believed to be human remains in the search for missing Queensland teenager Pheobe Bishop.

www.abc.net.au

3 people arrived. 3 people never left the vehicle.

There is a theory there that it could be that they all drove back to Gin Gin!?
Car shown 10.30 am back into Gin Gin

Maybe something happened back at the house AFTER returning from the airport ? That would really escalate an already volatile situation.

And whereby the television was smashed.

It could be that the alleged murder didn't happen anywhere near the airport.

It could be that the murder took place back at the house and then his car was used to transport PB to GNP later that evening.
 
Have yet to hear the police say, PB was murdered at Bundaberg Airport vicinity and then her body was buried nearby.

All Ive heard and read is TB car was seen in the Airport area with 3 people in it and that no one LEFT that vehicle.

JMO

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/footage-of-car-central-to-investigation-of-missing-gin-gin-teen-emerges/news-story/c127a53b3a6bdd2fae4060ba335ca163

Returning home with PB does not make very much sense. If she was alive for that journey she would have attempted to call and let her boyfriend know she was no longer coming. Also, we know the body was moved from its original location. For the reasons I listed in a previous post, it is extremely unlikely she was moved from that house post mortem. Logically, the only reason to relocate her body was to move her into a more hidden location. If she was killed at the house they would have had opportunity and time to plan a disposal site and dump her before suspicion was even raised. If it happened on route (which it surely did), time and digression was not on their side and it stands to reason she was disposed of without much forethought then once a location was selected they returned for her.

 

[Marg944]

“Police discovered the remains in the sprawling Good Night Scrub National Park at 2.30pm on Friday, bringing the three-week search for the missing 17-year-old to a tragic end.

Daily Mail Australia can exclusively reveal a crime scene is under police guard within the remote area, as of early on Saturday morning.

The new location is extremely remote and dotted with the prints of wild pigs and dogs that run rampant in the dense bushland. “

The gruesome reality of Pheobe Bishop's final resting place

Daily Mail Australia can exclusively reveal a crime scene under police guard within the remote area of the Good Night Scrub National Park after human remains were found in the search for Pheobe Bishop.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Detechtive]

lethal dose of drugs?

Police have ruled out that drugs were involved.

 

[bearbear]

She was so infuriatingly CLOSE to the airport then! She almost made it

I can’t understand what the motive could be that it was enough to kill her in the car but not enough to kill her in the house

screaming, hysterical, grabbing steering wheel, a hard angry punch to her head,
im wondering if sex and jealousy plus drug use could be motive?

 

[Detechtive]

I doubt the drug claims. Both were overweight - not exactly a sign of meth addiction. It's all rumour. And it has no place in an investigation, IMO.

 

[essareem]

“Police discovered the remains in the sprawling Good Night Scrub National Park at 2.30pm on Friday, bringing the three-week search for the missing 17-year-old to a tragic end.

Daily Mail Australia can exclusively reveal a crime scene is under police guard within the remote area, as of early on Saturday morning.

The new location is extremely remote and dotted with the prints of wild pigs and dogs that run rampant in the dense bushland. “

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The gruesome reality of Pheobe Bishop's final resting place

Daily Mail Australia can exclusively reveal a crime scene under police guard within the remote area of the Good Night Scrub National Park after human remains were found in the search for Pheobe Bishop.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The footage of the earthmoving machinery is from a different case.

 

[Aussieboy]

I doubt the drug claims. Both were overweight - not exactly a sign of meth addiction. It's all rumour. And it has no place in an investigation, IMO.

I've seen plenty of people on meth that are overweight, not habitual users but the problem is when they go benders and haven't slept for a few days, and then they come down off the drug. They become delirious and aggressive, and the smallest of things makes them snap.