Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a flight from Queensland, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025 *Arrests* #3

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Just for the record Warshawski, throughout the above post, you have used initials NB. There is nobody in this case with initials NB and it would appear from the context that you mean the accused TB (Tanika Bromley).
Thanks Silly Billy. .. and apologies everyone… not sure where my brain was at then but clearly not where it should have been ! Yes I meant TB.
 
Some of the statements have been so carefully worded as to end up convoluted. I take this one to mean that there is no trace beyond the BMX track... but I can't explain why 'prior to'. And the '3 arrived. 3 never left the car' one - that's just so strangely worded.

Yes, very carefully worded.
In regards to Pheobe being last seen alive, it's specifically stated to be that morning, prior to the Airport / BMX track.
As I said above, referencing the BMX track, and earlier saying that 3 persons were in the car and didn't exit the vehicle leads me to believe they have CCTV in that area (and could not confirm if all parties were alive). Remember it's difficult to see inside a car though closed windows, especially if the camera is some distance away.

The last seen alive reference could be anywhere from the Gin GIn house along the way to Airport Drive, but confirming that the third person was actually Pheobe and confirming that she was alive - this tells me they were outside of the car. They may for instance have stopped at the IGA in Gin Gin (JW stated that he bought energy drinks there around 8am). Note that's not confirmed... that was from his Daily Mail interview.
 
What does this even mean?
View attachment 592698Were they given a description of the area where Pheobe could be found? Or a photograph? As unlikely as that soundsd, why would they be looking for a 'mirror location' visually? Am I missing something, again?
Probably another tree pushed down in an attempt to block the track or view of it or the location where they took PB?

Similar width track?

Similar regrowth to first?
 
I think some of the media are doing a great job covering this case and getting out what information they can to avoid legalities

Without media, no one would have any details!
Media, Witnesses and timelines all make up a clearer picture.

If it wasn't for Media, cases like these would probably never be solved! Witnesses come forward when they read accounts from the media!

The DM who has been on the ground in Gin Gin from the start stated the call to PB boyfriend was made at around 8.30am BEFORE they left for Bundaberg


"about 8.30am, before they’d left Gin Gin for Bundaberg, Pheobe called her boyfriend to let him know she was on the way. "

Daily Mail Australia previously reported the boyfriend claimed he heard shouting during the call. The boyfriend later told a friend: 'They were both yelling at her and I couldn't really hear her.'


The *8am* IGA tale JW told about getting drinks, could actually be a cover by him, for something else that was maybe witnessed in that area that morning.

I think there is a LOT of information not known to the media and public and that every theory is valid at this point in time.

""We will allege that three people arrived near to the airport, and that three people never left that vehicle," Detective Inspector Mansfield said at a press conference on Friday morning



3 people arrived. 3 people never left the vehicle.

There is a theory there that it could be that they all drove back to Gin Gin!?
Car shown 10.30 am back into Gin Gin

Maybe something happened back at the house AFTER returning from the airport ? That would really escalate an already volatile situation.

And whereby the television was smashed.

It could be that the alleged murder didn't happen anywhere near the airport.

It could be that the murder took place back at the house and then his car was used to transport PB to GNP later that evening.

Have yet to hear the police say, PB was murdered at Bundaberg Airport vicinity and then her body was buried nearby.

All Ive heard and read is TB car was seen in the Airport area with 3 people in it and that no one LEFT that vehicle.

JMO

Gin Gin is only 40 mins from Bundaberg.

My theory is they left the airport via Samuels drive to dispose of PB at GNSNP. They dumped PB luggage after that somewhere. Then arrived backed in Gin Gin by 10.30am and acted like nothing had happened until they were contacted the next day. Then they've freaked out and relocated her.
 

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What does this even mean?
View attachment 592698Were they given a description of the area where Pheobe could be found? Or a photograph? As unlikely as that soundsd, why would they be looking for a 'mirror location' visually? Am I missing something, again?

It sounded to me like he was saying the bush or ground in the area had been disturbed in a similar way as the first location. It could be from a body being dragged, it could be from a car being driven some distance away from the track.

Just a reminder for those new to the case - the Police allege the body was moved more than once. It seems as if it was initially placed in the first location in Goodnight Scrub. Then later moved to another location, 9km from the first location (still in the vicinity of Goodnight scrub).


My theory is they left the airport via Samuels drive to dispose of PB at GNSNP.

That's what I gathered as well. They may have been taking backroads on the way from Airport drive to Goodnight Scrub hoping to avoid CCTV.

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What does this even mean?
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I think (and I might be mistaken) that they mean a track of
1) a car entering the bushland in a remote location, so driving off roand in place where it's possible and not too open/visited, leaving respective tracks in a similar setting and/or
2) a track of a person pulling a dead body into the bushland (possibly with the same method and/or trajectory, say, dragging her ca 15 meters into the bushland and then turning 90 degrees and pulling her whole body just slightly past the track, then leaving either via the same or different track trying to leave as little signs as possible; or using a specific item to help with the moving of the body (wheelbarrow, large plastic sheet, her own suitcase, whatever) that leaves specific type of tracks).
 
Do you know the statistics of how many people are in DV relationships that report it to police compared to the ones who don’t ? Statistics say around 60%

It has been stated by TB’s brother that she was in fact being beaten by JW. It’s pretty obvious to me that there relationship was violent.

For anyone who doesn’t understand the dynamics that can come into play when you bring DV/ drugs into a relationship, I’ll give you a quick run down from experience.
1. It’s not as easy as “she had the opportunity to leave” this can be either very unsafe given the lack of police care. It’s highly likely will either not show up, like seen in this case. Or they will downplay it, or put an AVO in place which is literally not stopping anything when you are dealing with an unhinged psychopath.
2. If you bring drugs into the mix, there is an added layer of addiction which is a disease and you will do absolutely anything to get your fix. Example- staying with someone who is violent because they supply you your drugs and you feel stuck because your addiction comes before everything including your safety.
3. Financial control. Sometimes people can’t leave because where will they go? Their partner has control of every aspect of their lives.
4. DV usually doesn’t just start with instantly getting hit. It’s usually a build up, a slow break down of your character and worth. Stripping the person who you once were to where you now accept things that happen to you with a hope that things may change.

Personally I think TB is a horrible person, she should have told the police the truth in the first interview. But I do however see a scenario in which at the time she felt like she had to go along with what was happening. I am being bias again with the thought that a woman wouldn’t kill another woman, which is probably naive of me, but my view on men has been very tainted by as I stated, experience in this world.
Well said. I'm very sorry for your experience.
 
I think (and I might be mistaken) that they mean a track of
1) a car entering the bushland in a remote location, so driving off roand in place where it's possible and not too open/visited, leaving respective tracks in a similar setting and/or
2) a track of a person pulling a dead body into the bushland (possibly with the same method and/or trajectory, say, dragging her ca 15 meters into the bushland and then turning 90 degrees and pulling her whole body just slightly past the track, then leaving either via the same or different track trying to leave as little signs as possible; or using a specific item to help with the moving of the body (wheelbarrow, large plastic sheet, her own suitcase, whatever) that leaves specific type of tracks).

That's a good thought. The situation at the 2nd track may have mirrored the situation at the 1st track. Same kind of drag marks, same kind of placement, same kind of concealment.
 
Once phone is turned off, it shows last location the phone was on

Theoretically then, her phone could have been turned off and thrown, before the car made its way back to the house, making it impossible for her to call anyone.
Correct. If phone went off for example after call to BF it would show the location and travelling route to that point.
 
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It has been stated by TB’s brother that she was in fact being beaten by JW. It’s pretty obvious to me that there relationship was violent.

For anyone who doesn’t understand the dynamics that can come into play when you bring DV/ drugs into a relationship, I’ll give you a quick run down from experience.
1. It’s not as easy as “she had the opportunity to leave” this can be either very unsafe given the lack of police care. It’s highly likely will either not show up, like seen in this case. Or they will downplay it, or put an AVO in place which is literally not stopping anything when you are dealing with an unhinged psychopath.
2. If you bring drugs into the mix, there is an added layer of addiction which is a disease and you will do absolutely anything to get your fix. Example- staying with someone who is violent because they supply you your drugs and you feel stuck because your addiction comes before everything including your safety.
3. Financial control. Sometimes people can’t leave because where will they go? Their partner has control of every aspect of their lives.
4. DV usually doesn’t just start with instantly getting hit. It’s usually a build up, a slow break down of your character and worth. Stripping the person who you once were to where you now accept things that happen to you with a hope that things may change.

Personally I think TB is a horrible person, she should have told the police the truth in the first interview. But I do however see a scenario in which at the time she felt like she had to go along with what was happening. I am being bias again with the thought that a woman wouldn’t kill another woman, which is probably naive of me, but my view on men has been very tainted by as I stated, experience in this world.

It was also alluded to by the judge during TB's weapons hearing. The judge briefly made a reference to (an unrelated) domestic violence matter, and said that he thought TB may have been under coercive control.

There may not have been any domestic violence related charges or convictions, it may be that the matter had not yet come before the courts, or it may be that the judge simply had information on Domestic Abuse callouts to the pair. Eg police were called, no charges were laid.


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Did I miss Pheobe's mother's input regarding her whereabouts right back at the beginning? I know the phone hasn't been found but where did the tracking device give its last location? Do we know? Sorry if I've missed a discussion.
It was @Eyespywithmylittleeye explaining about Life 360 App that Pheobes mum had
 
I’ve been trying to make sense of that statement:

3 arrived, 3 never left

But I think you’re onto something
Maybe I’m misunderstanding but I’m taking that statement to mean..
No one got out of that car.
Not P as said by housemates
Not housemates - regardless of comment to media of getting out and walking for 2 or 5 or 8 mins.
 
It was @Eyespywithmylittleeye explaining about Life 360 App that Pheobes mum had
There is something that I forgot to mention..
you can create a bubble in the app. Yes one of my teens tried it once til they were quickly reminded to not do that ever again.

You can change your exact location.. to just a generalised area. Something most teens know how to do. Basically it’s limiting your location.

And you can turn your location off entirely.


Not saying this has anything to do with this case - just left it off my prior comments on life 360
 
Did I miss Pheobe's mother's input regarding her whereabouts right back at the beginning? I know the phone hasn't been found but where did the tracking device give its last location? Do we know? Sorry if I've missed a discussion.

It has not been stated by police, but it was reported that the phone was switched off after the last call to the boyfriend made around 8:30am. That call could have been anywhere from the Gin Gin house to the airport.

Police referenced using "Phone Data" to find the remains in Goodnight scrub. I took that to mean phone tower triangulation of the housemates phones. There is no indication from the police that the remains were located using the life 360 app. If that were the case, one would think the police would had gone directly there instead of searching through the forest for three weeks.

Remember, news articles and the words of reporters are often times wrong. The misinformation in the reporting of this particular case has been terrible.
 
A fundraiser has been started in Pheobe's name. With funds received to be given to the SES and others like them in the Wide Bay area.


After speaking with Pheobe’s family, we have decided to honour her memory in a way that reflects the compassion and light she brought into the lives of so many.

"This
[fund] has been created as a way for our community to donate and support the services like the SES who volunteer their time without reimbursement and have played an integral part of finding missing loved ones in our community."

The fundraiser has also pledged to donate to the YSchool in Bundaberg where Pheobe attended.

Pheobe's mother Kylie Johnson posted on Facebook that the fundraiser was "supported by the family".

"Everyone is wanting to assist and this is how we can give back in honour of Phee," she said.

 
Re the Fund mentioned above

IMO
It would be a good idea to create a safe space/shelter in the area
for troubled teens who obviously have no one to turn to in times of need.

With professionals helping:
a psychologist, a career orientation expert/counsellor
helping the youths to find their way in life.

Support for the young is vital for the good of Society.

After all,
the young are the future of the nation.

"It takes a village to raise a child."

JMO
 
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Police referenced using "Phone Data" to find the remains in Goodnight scrub. I took that to mean phone tower triangulation of the housemates phones. There is no indication from the police that the remains were located using the life 360 app. If that were the case, one would think the police would had gone directly there instead of searching through the forest for three weeks.
Yes, thank you, that was my whole thought.... that if KJ had that tracker as stated, surely it wouldn't have taken her 3 weeks to pass the information to the police? Sorry if I'm not making myself too clear today! But it seems like something of a red herring anyway.
 

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