Canada, Greenland, Mexico, etc - USA Tariffs / Trade War commencing March 2025 #5

[Herat]

More tariff chaos from America's second largest grocery store chain:

How are suppliers supposed to give Albertsons 3 month's notices to increase their prices when the tariffs haven't been finalized and it's likely that Trump will make them instantly effective, not allowing major food supply chains or suppliers to ramp up and deal with the regulatory paperwork that will be required?

And, the tariffs may be different for different varieties of the same products, or released at different times.

Grocery company CEO's and their suppliers must be furious with Trump over all this. What a mess.

Albertsons supermarket chain warns suppliers company is ‘not accepting cost increases’ over Trump’s tariffs

North America’s second-largest supermarket chain is warning its suppliers that, with few exceptions, it won’t agree to price hikes as merchants grapple with President Trump’s tari…

nypost.com

 

[musicaljoke]

More tariff chaos from America's second largest grocery store chain:

How are suppliers supposed to give Albertsons 3 month's notices to increase their prices when the tariffs haven't been finalized and it's likely that Trump will make them instantly effective, not allowing major food supply chains or suppliers to ramp up and deal with the regulatory paperwork that will be required?

Grocery company CEO's and their suppliers must be furious with Trump over all this.

Albertsons supermarket chain warns suppliers company is ‘not accepting cost increases’ over Trump’s tariffs

North America’s second-largest supermarket chain is warning its suppliers that, with few exceptions, it won’t agree to price hikes as merchants grapple with President Trump’s tari…

nypost.com

I wonder if price drops also require three months notice. :/

What an insane time for suppliers. They can't just guess what lies ahead, and they can't raise their prices in anticipation of tariff price hikes because suppliers are competitive.

 

[Dotta]

That would be due to the tariff imposed by the USA on products from China ... and which China is passing on to the consumer.

​

"Tariffs End American Dream. ​

'Temu' and 'Shein' Under Pressure in US –​

Europe a New Front for Expansion.​

The United States is formally ending its
'de minimis' policy—
a duty-free regime for shipments worth up to $800.

For years,
that arrangement allowed Chinese e-commerce giants like Temu and Shein to flood the market with cheap products at no extra cost.

But starting May 2,
any shipment from outside the U.S.
that exceeds that limit
will be subject to 120 percent duty
or a flat fee of at least $100.

It’s a fundamental shift
that dramatically changes the economics of cross-border micro-shipping.

In the face of America’s problems,
Temu is turning its attention to Europe.

In April,
the company announced two strategic partnerships
that could revolutionize the way the platform operates in the Old Continent.

- The first is cooperation with DHL Group.
- The second key partnership is integration with the German ERP PlentyONE (formerly Plentymarkets)."

More in the link

Cło kończy amerykański sen. Temu i Shein pod presją w USA - Europa nowym frontem ekspansji – ecommercenews.pl – Wiadomości o E-Commerce w Niemczech i na Świecie

Cła w USA zatrzasnęły drzwi, więc Temu i Shein przerzucają siły na Europę. Temu stawia na partnerstwa z DHL i europejskimi SaaS, a polscy sprzedawcy stają przed wyborem: wskakujemy na nowy marketplace czy bronimy marże i rynku?

ecommercenews.pl

 

[slowpoke]

Once again, when I shop at Costco, I read the labels to figure out where stuff is made, and therefore susceptible to tariffs. Now it's a matter of curiosity as well as a concern for shortages or price increases.

I have a feeling there is some chicanery going on.

I buy Campari branded tomatoes that come on the vine, in a package of about 12. I like them because they are not too big and are easily cut up to put in salads or stews and can easily be eaten fresh in the hand.

For months I've been buying them labeled as hothouse-grown in British Columbia. Which made sense during the winter months.
The last set I bought 3 weeks ago was Grown in the USA
The set I bought yesterday were Product of Mexico.

BC Canada, US, Mexico? They all look like the same product to me.

I think they have all been the same price, exactly same packaging and logo, only the origin notation has changed. So curious.

If it’s the Sunset Campari tomatoes, they have hothouses across North America, and has a workforce of over 3,000 employees in Canada, the US, Mexico, and Holland. (Link)

So, perhaps that’s why you’ve seen Canada, US and MX at different times. jmo

(Also Interesting: If the brand of tomatoes is Sunset Campari, there’s apparently is or was a lawsuit saying Sunset wrongfully trademarked the name “Campari”, as the name is merely the variety name of the tomato.) (Link)

 

[Lyanna]

Voters turn against Trump ahead of 100-day mark

President’s approval ratings fall to record low amid concerns over aggressive economics

www.telegraph.co.uk

The only thing voters do appear to approve is border control, everything else, Donald is not receiving much approval.
I suspect he will be oblivious to these facts however

Moo

 

[indicolite22]

Voters turn against Trump ahead of 100-day mark

President’s approval ratings fall to record low amid concerns over aggressive economics

www.telegraph.co.uk

The only thing voters do appear to approve is border control, everything else, Donald is not receiving much approval.
I suspect he will be oblivious to these facts however

Moo

He already stated that Fox News polls were biased against him. He just doesn't accept reality. According to him, people are starting to realize how great his tariffs are.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Voters turn against Trump ahead of 100-day mark

President’s approval ratings fall to record low amid concerns over aggressive economics

www.telegraph.co.uk

The only thing voters do appear to approve is border control, everything else, Donald is not receiving much approval.
I suspect he will be oblivious to these facts however

Moo

Why would he care? He doesn't have to worry about re-election and the Republican-controlled Congress will never hold him accountable for anything.

 

[Sillybilly]

Canadians in general are fairly laid back and easy going, but when a foreign country threatens to take away our quality of life, destroy our Constitution, and wipe out our pristine natural environment, there's no coming back from that. We've been put on notice that there's a rabid dog at the gates and no basket of poison apples will unlock it.

Mr Potty Mouth needs to stay on his side of the "arbitrary lines drawn in pencil" that mark USA borders. Canadians will stay firmly on their side of Canada's clearly defined historic borders.

As for Vance, or whatever his name might be today, if he decides to flounce into Canada then, as with Trump, he has to show respect. Canada is a sovereign country with a Prime Minister and a quality of life that far exceeds the USA. Canada will accept refugees from the USA, but will not accept advice from authoritarian governments.

J.D. Vance’s Best Friend, the Canadian Politician, Has No Comment​

Jamil Jivani has little to say about Vance in his campaign for Canadian parliament, after Trump destroyed America’s relations with its neighbor
By Guy Lawson
April 27, 2025

 

[musicaljoke]

J.D. Vance’s Best Friend, the Canadian Politician, Has No Comment​

Jamil Jivani has little to say about Vance in his campaign for Canadian parliament, after Trump destroyed America’s relations with its neighbor
By Guy Lawson
April 27, 2025

Jivani hasn't been in office long. We'll know tomorrow if he keeps his seat.

 

[Yellowbelly]

More tariff chaos from America's second largest grocery store chain:

How are suppliers supposed to give Albertsons 3 month's notices to increase their prices when the tariffs haven't been finalized and it's likely that Trump will make them instantly effective, not allowing major food supply chains or suppliers to ramp up and deal with the regulatory paperwork that will be required?

And, the tariffs may be different for different varieties of the same products, or released at different times.

Grocery company CEO's and their suppliers must be furious with Trump over all this. What a mess.

Albertsons supermarket chain warns suppliers company is ‘not accepting cost increases’ over Trump’s tariffs

North America’s second-largest supermarket chain is warning its suppliers that, with few exceptions, it won’t agree to price hikes as merchants grapple with President Trump’s tari…

nypost.com

There will be force majeure clauses in the contracts that the suppliers have with the supermarkets which the suppliers will try to use to avoid having to supply the supermarkets at a massive loss.

 

[otto]

J.D. Vance’s Best Friend, the Canadian Politician, Has No Comment​

Jamil Jivani has little to say about Vance in his campaign for Canadian parliament, after Trump destroyed America’s relations with its neighbor
By Guy Lawson
April 27, 2025

I suppose that if the Conservatives are elected, this man will have a prominent role in discussions with the USA.

Canadian politician Jivani blames Canada for the USA Government's intention to destroy Canada's economy so the USA can steal the land on which Canadians stand. He echoes the values and goals of Trump and his government.

That will be an interesting riding to watch during election results!

"In his letter, Jivani blamed the current economic crunch as "the direct result of a toxic dynamic" between the Liberal government and Trump's first administration."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jamil-jivani-jd-vance-inauguration-1.7434145

"He’s railed against critical race theory, DEI, and the “liberal elite.” He’s leveled accusations of “wokeness,” which he calls “the new religion of the left,” at all the usual suspects, from arts workers to teachers, but also at targets further afield. “Big businesses have been getting away with social activism for far too long,” he wrote in one National Post column.

How J.D. Vance Became a Flash Point in an Election in Durham

thelocal.to

 

[angelainwi]

Why would he care? He doesn't have to worry about re-election and the Republican-controlled Congress will never hold him accountable for anything.

Trump is so thin skinned that he does care very much about his approval numbers, way more than he should. When they are low it eats him alive.

 

[Lilibet]

I buy Campari branded tomatoes that come on the vine, in a package of about 12. I like them because they are not too big and are easily cut up to put in salads or stews and can easily be eaten fresh in the hand.

For months I've been buying them labeled as hothouse-grown in British Columbia. Which made sense during the winter months.
The last set I bought 3 weeks ago was Grown in the USA
The set I bought yesterday were Product of Mexico.

I love Campari tomatoes too. I just checked the ones I got Friday and they say “greenhouse grown” on the front and on the back label “Product of USA.”

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Trump is so thin skinned that he does care very much about his approval numbers, way more than he should. When they are low it eats him alive.

I think that was true in the past, but I'm not sure it is anymore. His approval number seem to be on a downward trajectory, and I don't see him doing anything to improve them.

JMO

 

[Lilibet]

If it’s the Sunset Campari tomatoes, they have hothouses across North America, and has a workforce of over 3,000 employees in Canada, the US, Mexico, and Holland. (Link)

So, perhaps that’s why you’ve seen Canada, US and MX at different times. jmo

(Also Interesting: If the brand of tomatoes is Sunset Campari, there’s apparently is or was a lawsuit saying Sunset wrongfully trademarked the name “Campari”, as the name is merely the variety name of the tomato.) (Link)

Mine are “private selection” from Kroger. I haven’t kept track of where mine are coming from. That’s interesting about the Sunset Campari.

 

[otto]

I was just listening to the BBC news and the next step in the tariff war is supply shortages in the USA. Companies like Walmart have already reduced their orders from China because tariffed products are too expensive. Inflation will follow. Apparently the USA is at a fork in the road. Continuing down this path means USA dollar will continue to lose value. Financial uncertainty means bankruptcies. Trump can turn it around if he sorts it out with China, but someone has to be brave enough to make that first phone call.

 

[angelainwi]

I was just listening to the BBC news and the next step in the tariff war is supply shortages in the USA. Companies like Walmart have already reduced their orders from China because tariffed products are too expensive. Inflation will follow. Apparently the USA is at a fork in the road. Continuing down this path means USA dollar will continue to lose value. Financial uncertainty means bankruptcies. Trump can turn it around if he sorts it out with China, but someone has to be brave enough to make that first phone call.

Please get one of his underlings on it STAT! Someone with some grace, if there is anybody....what is Kellogg like? Who would even be the right person?

 

[SouthAussie]

"After the US raised tariffs to 145% in April 2025, cargo shipments from China fell by around 40% ... "

Trump’s China tariffs to trigger US supply chain shock

 

[IzzyBlanche]

"I voted for Trump because he'll be better for the economy" they said.

 

[otto]

Please get one of his underlings on it STAT! Someone with some grace, if there is anybody....what is Kellogg like? Who would even be the right person?

Trump has already announced that he is in meetings with China (TIME). China then announced that this is not true.

Trump doesn't want to make the first contact with China. He wants to make the point that China needs the USA and is crawling on hands and knees begging for a deal. That's not going to happen.

The USA and China need a neutral mediator, but Trump is probably too stubborn to agree to that as well. Trump has made an huge mess of the global economy.

Trump lives in a fantasy world where he looks at the trillions of dollars of USA debt - accumulated since 2005 - and he imagines that all other countries are going to pay taxes to the USA to pay down that debt. The taxes are tariffs that he believes will flow into the External Revenue Office. The one little detail that went over his head is that tariffs on imported products means higher prices for the USA consumer, and that the USA consumer is the party that will pay into the External Revenue Office.

Perhaps the USA should not have lived beyond their means for the past 20 years, spent less, managed finances better, and they wouldn't be in this situation. The crazy idea that the USA will solve their overspending by putting a tax on imported products is so simplistic it defies common sense.