CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[Snoop Sister]

Thanks. I knew the police would want to speak to the staff ,I was not sure it would be under the heading of a formal interview. I am a retired teacher so know how much information they would know about the children.

Teachers are often with their students more hours than parents. So, imo I think Lilly and Jack’s teachers could provide much insight.

 

[aggiekel2005]

This! It’s odd they can’t describe the 4 year olds clothes. I’d be more likely to be unable to describe the 6 year olds… just due to the fact 6 year olds can dress themselves reasonably appropriately. But to not even recall what he went to bed in and say “possibly pjs that look like this” and the fact his day clothes are unknown. That fact completely baffles me.

Yes! I just tried this on myself to see if I could reasonably tell someone what my 7 and 12 year olds wore to school this morning. I can accurately describe both outfits and they dress themselves. I can even tell you what they wore to bed as well, and again, they dress themselves.

 

[Belly]

Thanks. I knew the police would want to speak to the staff ,I was not sure it would be under the heading of a formal interview. I am a retired teacher so know how much information they would know about the children.

Being a retired teacher, you’d know exactly how much kids talk. Might be interesting to see if we eventually find something out from a teacher interview. It could lead to a very interesting view on mom and step dads relationship.

Teachers are sooo important to child safety and wellbeing. Not all kids go home to love.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Yes! I just tried this on myself to see if I could reasonably tell someone what my 7 and 12 year olds wore to school this morning. I can accurately describe both outfits and they dress themselves. I can even tell you what they wore to bed as well, and again, they dress themselves.

Now just throw in the panic of losing your two kids. Imo it might not be as easy as you might think. At the time anyway. Moo

 

[Lusitana]

I just wish we could get an official and clear answer regarding when was the last time both Lilly and Jack were at school.

 

[branmuffin]

Do we know whether drug tests were done? I know DM volunteered to give a drug test. It would be one more thing to cross off the list but wouldn't eliminate any further investigation.

 

[Lucy6226]

I just wish we could get an official and clear answer regarding when was the last time both Lilly and Jack were at school.

I thought we did. The Tuesday before they went missing. School was closed on the Wednesday. They were apparently off sick on Thursday and Friday

 

[Snoop Sister]

I just wish we could get an official and clear answer regarding when was the last time both Lilly and Jack were at school.

Their bus driver reported that the last time he saw the children is when he dropped them off at home two weeks ago today. Wednesday was a staff development day and Thursday and Friday they were home from school as Lilly had a cough apparently.
Links have been listed previously.

 

[MistyWaters]

I just wish we could get an official and clear answer regarding when was the last time both Lilly and Jack were at school.

The bus driver was interviewed by the Globe but the article is now paylocked. He reminisced about both the children and stated he dropped them off Tuesday after school. As we know there was no school on Wednesday and Thursday involved a cough, Tuesday had to have been the last day they were in school.

Locked

Disappearance of two children has rocked rural Nova Scotia community

After calling off search and rescue teams for Jack, 4, and Lilly Sullivan, 6, police say they’re zeroing in on specific search areas and investigating possible criminal elements

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[branmuffin]

First Nations children may also be eligible for compensation through the First Nations Child and Family Services Settlement. Indigenous children may also qualify for funding through Jordan's Principle, which helps them access essential services.

I've only heard that the children have a maternal grandfather who has Indian Status. There are rules on whether or not subsequent generations can have Indian Status. Based on the information below would these children be considered First Nation.

https://www.afn.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/06-19-02-06-AFN-Fact-Sheet-Second-Generation-cut-off-final-revised.pdf

 

[sar2them1984]

I wonder of this family were already known to any outside services? I mean we have a family with 3 young children, 2 whom the family identify as having potential additional needs, from what we can see from the outside of the home living conditions may have been questionable and, from statement released in the press (by step father I think) the family seemed to be low income, with mom being a stay at home mom and step dad only working minimal hours. Not saying they would be known to the equivalent of Child Protection services but would be interesting to know if they recieved any family support or there were professionals who had insight into the family

 

[Mauig’ma]

I wish we were allowed to say what we really think happened. Because I feel like people aren’t being truthful how things unfolded that dreadful day. I really don’t think they know tbh imo. A lot of these cases start with information that the child/ren haven’t been in school a day or two or even longer before 911 is called. First red flag imo

 

[tlcya]

I've only heard that the children have a maternal grandfather who has Indian Status. There are rules on whether or not subsequent generations can have Indian Status. Based on the information below would these children be considered First Nation.

https://www.afn.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/06-19-02-06-AFN-Fact-Sheet-Second-Generation-cut-off-final-revised.pdf

It is MBM's father who is a member of the band. Not her mother. the band made a public statement to that effect and calling for calm and pleading for people to provide support and not participate in hurtful speculation if I recall.

 

[branmuffin]

Actually, the father would be legally responsible too, based on what the Criminal Code says:
Criminal Code

Duty of persons to provide necessaries

• 215(1) Every one is under a legal duty
  • (a) as a parent, foster parent, guardian or head of a family, to provide necessaries of life for a child under the age of sixteen years;
  • (b) to provide necessaries of life to their spouse or common-law partner; and
  • (c) to provide necessaries of life to a person under his charge if that person
    • (i) is unable, by reason of detention, age, illness, mental disorder or other cause, to withdraw himself from that charge, and
    • (ii) is unable to provide himself with necessaries of life

People can give up parental rights but they will only be accepted if it is to the benefit of the child.

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www.therileyfirm.ca

 

[MistyWaters]

I've only heard that the children have a maternal grandfather who has Indian Status. There are rules on whether or not subsequent generations can have Indian Status. Based on the information below would these children be considered First Nation.

It was acknowledged earlier by the chief that the children are members of the band. The only information about how they qualified is through the maternal grandfather, as you mentioned. Maybe the biodad belongs to the same band, purely my speculation.

More speculation - Where’s “back home”?? Do we know where MBM lived prior to hooking up with DM three or so years ago?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/americas/missing-siblings-canada-nova-scotia-intl-hnk

The children are members of the Sipekne’katik First Nation, according to chief Michelle Glasgow.

“Please help bring Lily and Jack back home,” Glasgow said on social media.

 

[Ontario Mom]

It is MBM's father who is a member of the band. Not her mother. the band made a public statement to that effect and calling for calm and pleading for people to provide support and not participate in hurtful speculation if I recall.

That's exactly what they stated. The children's maternal grandfather, and pleaded with the public not to speculate.

 

[Sailor Bug]

I just wish we could get an official and clear answer regarding when was the last time both Lilly and Jack were at school.

Lilly and Jack’s seat – in the front, to the right – has sat empty, with their names still taped above it, since April 29, when Mr. Ward last dropped them off at the end of their dirt driveway after school. Disappearance of two children has rocked rural Nova Scotia community

 

[CityKid]

MOO. One of my theories. So much talk about boots. DM mentioned their boots with more detail than anything else they were wearing and said "their boots were gone." He also mentioned the boot prints outside the house. The bus driver mentioned that Jack would take off his boot and throw it at him while he was driving. MBM didn't mention them in her interview, though. I wonder if Jack ever got in any trouble for throwing his boots? Did a fellow student tell their parents that Jack was prone to throw boots, or did the bus driver mention it? Were MBM and DM told about Jack's behavior by the school, maybe threatened that there would be a home visit to discuss Jack's behavior and Lilly's shrieking? IMO I think those "boots were gone" Tuesday night after the kids came home from school. IMO those boots are not where the children are.

 

[thelesis]

It was acknowledged earlier by the chief that the children are members of the band. The only information about how they qualified is through the maternal grandfather, as you mentioned. Maybe the biodad belongs to the same band, purely my speculation.

More speculation - Where’s “back home”?? Do we know where MBM lived prior to hooking up with DM three or so years ago?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/americas/missing-siblings-canada-nova-scotia-intl-hnk

The children are members of the Sipekne’katik First Nation, according to chief Michelle Glasgow.

“Please help bring Lily and Jack back home,” Glasgow said on social media.

Reading the CNN article, I'm a little confused. Glasgow's social media, linked in in your quote, does not say anything about Lily and Jack being members of the band, but that they are 'a part of' the band. In addition, the press release from Sipekne’katik First Nation does not mention the kids being members of the band. The wording is important on this one and I'm speculating that CNN didn't do their due diligence in researching band membership in Canada.

And then there's another layer, in that being a member of a band does not necessarily mean you have Indian Status (don't come for me, that's the official government term!). It's super confusing.

 

[branmuffin]

As countries law systems vary ,is a formal interview , in Canada, one done under oath and a reason has to be given for the interview ?

If someone is being interviewed by LE they are under no obligation to answer any questions. LE love people like DM who can't stop talking. He's either giving them bucketloads of information they can use or he might be spinning a tale. An interrogation is another thing altogether. Just for an example, in Canada if LE decides to interrogate someone, the POI has no right to counsel while being interrogated. However, if they request one, LE cannot put roadblocks to deny counsel. The POI can't be compelled to speak but if the POI has already spoken freely those things could be used against him/her.