CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #4

[Ruby_PA]

It might just be the way he talks, but that last line and the "probably be looking for the rest of my life" makes it sound like he doesn't think this case will ever get solved for some reason.

When asked if he had anything to do with the children’s disappearance, he was adamant in his answer.
“I 100 per cent did not and I will hold that to my last day on this planet,” he said.

Sounds to me more like he is saying he will stick to his story of not being involved till his dying day. Not that they will never be found... Very different thing, I think. He doesn't know if he will live for another 5 or 50 years, but either way, he's not changing his story.

 

[Chimera]

“I don’t know if they’re out there in the woods, I mean, searchers are doing everything they can, but from the beginning I called for abduction,” he said.

Martell said doesn’t know if police are looking into that possibility, but RCMP have said publicly there is no evidence of abduction.

The disappearance has sparked rampant speculation on social media — much of it targeting Martell and the children’s mother. Martell calls it all “nonsense.”

When asked if he had anything to do with the children’s disappearance, he was adamant in his answer.

“I 100 per cent did not and I will hold that to my last day on this planet,” he said.

Nova Scotia kids missing for 18 days ‘weighing heavy’ on community: premier | Globalnews.ca

After a weekend of renewed searching for a pair of missing children, Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston says the siblings' disappearance is "devastating" for so many people.

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Bbm.
That (imo !) is such a strong statement to make at this time in the investigation !
If LE don't think someone took them , what are we left with ?
Searches for where the children may have wandered have been fruitless thus far.
Omo.

 

[MistyWaters]

Bbm.
That (imo !) is such a strong statement to make at this time in the investigation !
If LE don't think someone took them , what are we left with ?
Searches for where the children may have wandered have been fruitless thus far.
Omo.

The RCMP have consistently referred to a missing children investigation as opposed to a homicide investigation. As much as the general public wants the case solved toot sweet, I think they’re cautious of not pushing anyone over the edge.

Another possible option accounting for why they’re missing is accidental death. Did the children travel with someone anytime between Tuesday afternoon school to Friday morning? We don’t know the answer to that but it might explain why the mom’s emotional state appears to be rather fragile. No reason for me to think that other than my impression of her the only time she spoke.
JMO

 

[musicaljoke]

Just catching up so I’m really sorry if I ask questions already discussed.
Just a couple of queries, do we know how far the children ‘ could’ have walked prior to searches beginning ?
How was the weather that day ? Could it be possible they have found shelter in any small ridges or such ? Somewhere a child could fit that might not even be noticeable to a grown adult ? Is there water nearby ? Could it be possible one kid fell in and the other went in to help ? I was also wondering why the parents aren’t sure what Lilly was wearing as the missing poster says she ‘ might’ be wearing . It does say she was in their room prior to going missing. Sorry if this has all been covered previously . Bless their little souls I really hope they are found soon. I just find it strange absolutely no trace at all has been found of them in the woods if they were there.

The poster says she "might" be wearing ... because if she took it off after leaving the house, then she wouldn't be wearing it anymore. Don't eliminate a possible sighting just because Lilly was wearing something other than that which was described on the poster.

 

[Chimera]

The RCMP have consistently referred to a missing children investigation as opposed to a homicide investigation. As much as the general public wants the case solved toot sweet, I think they’re cautious of not pushing anyone over the edge.

Another possible option accounting for why they’re missing is accidental death. Did the children travel with someone anytime between Tuesday afternoon school to Friday morning? We don’t know the answer to that but it might explain why the mom’s emotional state appears to be rather fragile. No reason for me to think that other than watching her the only time she spoke.
JMO

Bbm.
Agreed.
And so we wait....

Still wishing for a miracle and the kids could be recovered safely, but just do not see how that's possible.
I'm fairly certain no one is harboring them.
Imo.

 

[Skigh]

The RCMP have consistently referred to a missing children investigation as opposed to a homicide investigation. As much as the general public wants the case solved toot sweet, I think they’re cautious of not pushing anyone over the edge.

Another possible option accounting for why they’re missing is accidental death. Did the children travel with someone anytime between Tuesday afternoon school to Friday morning? We don’t know the answer to that but it might explain why the mom’s emotional state appears to be rather fragile. No reason for me to think that other than my impression of her the only time she spoke.
JMO

I am not sure the public want the case solved tout suite ,but are interested in what is going to happen next as they do not want things to just peter out with no more information given.
It would be a huge coincidence for both children to accidentally be killed. If an accident then why not report it?

 

[Fika]

Just catching up but one thought I had was the backpack. If they wandered off where were they planning to go? Its a little unusual for the child to wear a backpack when playing in the house or outside in the yard.

So I have been thinking IMO since Lilly was sick for sometime and off school is it possible that she took a backpack and wanted to go to school and perhaps missed the bus and decided to walk? Just an idea IF they wandered that maybe could be why.

I wonder what was in the backpack anything missing from the house?

 

[MistyWaters]

I am not sure the public want the case solved tout suite ,but are interested in what is going to happen next as they do not want things to just peter out with no more information given.
It would be a huge coincidence for both children to accidentally be killed. If an accident then why not report it?

Fear, remorse, guilt? It might be easier to just hide?

 

[aggiekel2005]

Just catching up but one thought I had was the backpack. If they wandered off where were they planning to go? Its a little unusual for the child to wear a backpack when playing in the house or outside in the yard.

So I have been thinking IMO since Lilly was sick for sometime and off school is it possible that she took a backpack and wanted to go to school and perhaps missed the bus and decided to walk? Just an idea IF they wandered that maybe could be why.

I wonder what was in the backpack anything missing from the house?

My question is that if both kids were in school and though they were going to school, missed the bus, decided to walk, why is only one kid taking a backpack? It would make more sense that Lily would have also had Jack take his backpack right? I assume a 4 year old would have some type of bag with a change of clothes, pullups etc. for school.

 

[Chimera]

My question is that if both kids were in school and though they were going to school, missed the bus, decided to walk, why is only one kid taking a backpack? It would make more sense that Lily would have also had Jack take his backpack right? I assume a 4 year old would have some type of bag with a change of clothes, pullups etc. for school.

There's something about that backpack and the boots specifically, that stand out to me -- and not in a good way, either.
They feel important somehow ?
Imo.

 

[Skigh]

Fear, remorse, guilt? It might be easier to just hide?

I would think reporting it would be easier than hiding bodies and endlessly lying and worrying the truth could emerge.

 

[aggiekel2005]

There's something about that backpack and the boots specifically, that stand out to me -- and not in a good way, either.
They feel important somehow ?
Imo.

They do to me too almost like them being missing is staged. IMO I don't believe the kids wandered off and I don't have hope that this will have a happy ending.

 

[MistyWaters]

My question is that if both kids were in school and though they were going to school, missed the bus, decided to walk, why is only one kid taking a backpack? It would make more sense that Lily would have also had Jack take his backpack right? I assume a 4 year old would have some type of bag with a change of clothes, pullups etc. for school.

I think first we’d have to know if Jack brought a backpack to school 100% of the time to draw any conclusions IF the children mistakingly headed for school on their own that day. Nothing has been mentioned about one left at home that morning either.
JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

I would think reporting it would be easier than hiding bodies and endlessly lying and worrying the truth could emerge.

It should be. That’s why I wondered if they’d went somewhere, bodies don’t necessarily have to well hidden but just in a different place.

People don’t always do the right thing otherwise 100% of all crimes and incidents would be closed because people turned themselves in, I suppose things such as reputation, shame, fear of failure, even embarrasment might stand in the way of admitting the truth? Not everyone is the same on the scale of honesty and once that first story gets told it becomes more difficult to walk it back.
JMO

 

[Skigh]

It should be. That’s why I wondered if they’d went somewhere, bodies don’t necessarily have to well hidden but just in a different place.

People don’t always do the right thing otherwise 100% of all crimes and incidents would be closed because people turned themselves in, I suppose things such as reputation, shame, fear of failure, even embarrasment might stand in the way of admitting the truth? Not everyone is the same on the scale of honesty and once that first story gets told it becomes more difficult to walk it back.
JMO

I can see bodies being hidden if something happened through gross neglect or criminal activity,but not through a genuine accident.

 

[ttjo]

“I don’t know if they’re out there in the woods, I mean, searchers are doing everything they can, but from the beginning I called for abduction,” he said.

This is the part of that statement that haunts me, as well as him saying the back pack will be brown now and jack would have taken off his pull up.
Surely he didn't think he needed to tell trained searchers " it could be brown now" cause otherwise they might miss it.
it sort of feels a little like excuse making, or because he said from the beginning he wanted borders to be on the lookout ( abduction) thats why you didn't find it,

 

[Skigh]

There's something about that backpack and the boots specifically, that stand out to me -- and not in a good way, either.
They feel important somehow ?
Imo.

I agree ,it is something that keeps niggling at the back of the mind about the backpack and boots. Why no backpack for Jack ,he must have taken one to put in artwork ,bits and pieces ,spare clothing etc. Why no coats ?

 

[teeby]

My preschooler doesn't typically take a backpack to school. They bring papers home relatively infrequently in large batches and spare clothes are kept at school. Mine brings a lunchbox, but if the school provides lunch, it doesn't strike me as unusual not to have anything you bring every day at that age.

 

[Slamalam]

I wish we knew more about this backpack… If it was specifically her school backpack, or more of a play-time backpack? (Was that addressed and I missed it? Was it specifically her school backpack?) I am curious because my child has more than one backpack- one for school, and a couple more flimsy ones that are of the drawstring variety, that she brings along on a walk or hike (in case we find treasures like great acorns, leaves, rocks, bugs etc).

If we knew what kind of backpack it is, we might be able to speculate about Lily’s intentions. Thought she would walk to school? Thought she would go on a nature walk around the yard? Something else?

 

[ginestra]

The confusion is the backpack-it signifies to me that Lily thought she was going to school, but according to the adults, they weren't going to school that day. Unsure if called off for school. Added that everything seemed to be happening right around school time.