Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #2

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While mutual help is understandable, Australia's navy is very small, with limited capability. China just had a major naval exercise off the coast of Australia, and at first they weren't detected

Canada's North is far from Australia, and I'm not sure how much help they can provide to Canada.

Pretty sure we are not going to send any of our defence to help Canada at this time. Maybe some people to help them understand how OTHR works, once the system is established ... and once we have helped Canada to build the system.

We will probably only send a smallish peacekeeping force to Ukraine also, if required.

We have enough issues here with China consistently breathing down our necks. And us (and NZ) sitting all alone here on the other side of the world.

And we still have troops in other overseas locations, like the UK where we are helping to train Ukraine soldiers.


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Also, I am not sure that the Chinese warships were "undetected". It is just that the first the public heard about it was when a Virgin pilot heard them. The military doesn't tell us everything, but we know a NZ vessel was shadowing the Chinese warships. So someone knew something, the Chinese warships weren't hiding. They circumnavigated all of our continent.
 
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Pretty sure we are not going to send any of our defence to help Canada at this time. Maybe some people to help them understand how OTHR works, once the system is established ... and once we have helped Canada to build the system.

We will probably only send a smallish peacekeeping force to Ukraine also, if required.

We have enough issues here with China consistently breathing down our necks. And us (and NZ) sitting all alone here on the other side of the world.

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It's really horrible to think that the US would leave Aus and NZ vulnerable to Chinese aggression. It doesn't help out the US to ignore this threat.
 
It's really horrible to think that the US would leave Aus and NZ vulnerable to Chinese aggression. It doesn't help out the US to ignore this threat.

I don't think the US is ignoring it. They sent a warship (the USS Shiloh) to cruise the area, be a presence, after the latest Chinese warship antics.

The US has a big reliance on our OTHR system also. The system watches Asia for western countries. There has always been US military working with Aussies at our Pine Gap location, the base for the OTHR.

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One has to stop trying to use logic with the Trump hires like RFK.

The military purge of DEI has a pathetic example. Evidently purging military records using the word "Gay" resulted in removal of references to Enola Gay.

This is the name of the aircraft that dropped the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

Enola Gay was the name of the Air Force Captain's mother. He named the plane after her.

Evidently employing 19 year-old computer geeks to do quick-and-dirty record purging has unintended consequences.
They also removed Ira Hayes' name from the iconic raising of the American flag at Iwo Jima. I have no words.
 
MOO: My local Aldis has several types of eggs. The cheapest were 6.59 per dozen.
Wow, that's about 10 bucks in Canadian dollars. I eat eggs almost every day. I'd be eating more bagels, I guess. It makes me wonder about all those companies that make packaged food like cake mixes and pancake mix that use powdered eggs or liquid eggs and how it will affect prices or availability.
 
It's really horrible to think that the US would leave Aus and NZ vulnerable to Chinese aggression. It doesn't help out the US to ignore this threat.
One day, a couple of years ago, folks in Sydney woke up and looked over Sydney Harbour and there quietly sliding up the Harbour were 3 sleek, smooth Chinese war frigates... complete with crisp immaculate sturdy young sailors, in Chinese Naval uniform lined up on the decks, in festive formation..


No one said anything... The Govt of the day said, they had no idea!! anyways, they loaded up with a whole lot of baby milk formula to take back to Shanghai, paid their bills, lined up on deck again, still crisp and immaculate, gave a long salute and hoot, and slid out of the Harbour.. ( lots of AU's helped them to load up!! )

The Chinese Navy is quite entitled to sail in International waters... which is where they were when the aircraft spotted them.. No point getting on the wrong side of the Chinese , at least for AU , they have the biggest and most disciplined defence force in the world...
 
The did the same to Charles Calvin Rogers, a Black Army officer who received the Medal of Honor "for his gallant defense of a firebase near South Vietnam's border with Cambodia in 1968."

Highest-Ranking Black Medal of Honor Recipient Erased in Pentagon DEI Purge

Just as the Pentagon removed the website for the Memorials for the Navajo Code Talkers and the DEI marines who were in the Battle of Iwo Jima.

The original photo

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The Marine Memorial

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However, strangely enough, I can still find the webpage about the Navajo Code Talkers on the State Dept Embassy of Mongolia website. So weird. (Please don't tell Secretary Hegsbeth or the Dept of Defense). I can see it by googling Navajo Code Talkers, but it imports as "Technical Difficulties.

 
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Just as the Pentagon removed the website for the Memorials for the Navajo Code Talkers and the DEI marines who were immortalized in the Raising the Flag at Iwo Jima memorial.

The original photo, with the two Navajo Marines:

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The Marine Memorial

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The optics of a President erasing the selfless acts of true American heroes when that President themselves dodged the draft is laughably pathetic.
 
This is what people outside the USA are seeing, worried that people inside the USA cannot see it.

"If it continues like this, the United States will not score as a democracy when we release [next year's] data," said Staffan Lindberg, head of the Varieties of Democracy project, run out of Sweden's University of Gothenburg. "If it continues like this, democracy [there] will not last another six months."

His project includes 31 million data points for 202 countries, compiled by 4,200 scholars and other contributors, measuring 600 different attributes of democracy. Lindberg happens to be in the U.S. this week presenting this year's report — which only includes data through the end of 2024.
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But it refers to ongoing events in the U.S. as unprecedented, mentioning Trump pardoning 1,500 criminals who supported him; firing independent agency watchdogs without process; purging apolitical police and military brass; ignoring laws; and his unilaterally deleting federal programs, and even a whole organization, created by U.S. Congress.

He's just called his predecessor's pardons void and vacated. He gave a bitterly partisan speech at the Department of Justice, demanding the prosecution of the media and certain adversaries. He threatened numerous universities with sanctions. He invoked a 227-year-old war measures law during peacetime — for the first time ever — to deport accused gang members without due process. And, most importantly, when that deportation plan wound up in court, he may have — although it's still in dispute — defied a court order, cracking the ultimate constitutional safeguard.
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Lindberg said Trump is doing many of the same things as Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Turkey, Viktor Orbán in Hungary and Narendra Modi in India — only faster."
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there more ...

 
While mutual help is understandable, Australia's navy is very small, with limited capability. China just had a major naval exercise off the coast of Australia, and at first they weren't detected

Canada's North is far from Australia, and I'm not sure how much help they can provide to Canada.
Australia most likely will send it's Antarctic icebreaker ship, the RSS Nuyina.... probably the South Africans will send their Antarctic Icebreaker, the Agulhas , up there in our winter,, the Saffers already lease their ship to the Finns over the Southern winter, ( northern summer ) ... One would not sail into the Roaring Forties in the winter down here, both these ships only do Antarctica in the Southern summer...

Here is the Nuyina.. RSV Nuyina – Australian Antarctic Program

While it is not an armed vessel, it is a geophysicists dream , and like the Agulhas, provides the latest Techie backup.

We could arm it, if you like .... firing stuff might appeal to geophysics. folks.. ... I dunno....
 
The optics of a President erasing the selfless acts of true American heroes when that President themselves dodged the draft is laughably pathetic.
I remember when Trump was in his first term, with a fool for a Naval minister and a young aircraft carrier captain found himself stranded off Hawaii I think, maybe Guam, with sailors falling ill right and left with Covid ( no one knew what it was then) he could not isolate them on the carrier, the well were falling down with the sick, some died, he asked for help, finally he went to the press, and he got fired for it. Brett Crozier.. I figured any president who could do that would do anything. Anything.
 
HA... Trump telling that old gal from Fox.. how 'naasty ' Canada is, the people are 'naasty the nastiest state..... well. Come on , Australia, we can't let Canada take this crown, we can surely outnasty Canada!! the naturally nice folks, and we are mongrels. We can do it..
 
That was my impression as soon as he announced his cabinet. I was open minded to what he might do, but, the more I learn, the more I doubt that he - a realtor, banker, and carbon tax promoter - has the knowledge and experience with Canada to ensure that all Canadians are protected through the trade war.

Canada needs someone with solid understanding of Canada's financial needs, someone who put's all of Canada first. Carney is parachuting into the role, unelected, and unfamiliar with policy in Canada. Staging the signing of a pretend order for theatrical purposes is absurd. What Carney has announced and ensured is that rebate cheques are stopped. That doesn't help Canadians.

Western Canada wants to hear about new pipelines to coasts - new trade partners, and the election date.
I'm going to beg to differ with you and Brian Lilley of the Sun, a co-founder of Rebel Media, which is connected to extreme right wing groups and is modeled after Breitbart in the US. They are climate change denialists and supported anti-vaxxers. They supported the "convoy". And Post Media is owned by right-wing Americans.

Regarding comments criticizing Carney about the Carbon tax, he has already reduced it to zero, which he promised he would do during his leadership campaign. And yet Poilievre is still complaining about the tax. It's zero. Stop complaining. Carney used the only mechanism available to him at the moment and he did it quickly.

Regarding the role of Carney during the 2008 recession, I worked in the institutional investment business at the time. He absolutely did contribute significantly to the strong outcome for Canada. Admittedly Canada had strong banking regulations in place which definitely set a good base, but there were many, many, many businesses and capitalists that were hounding Carney to alter conditions and he stood strong. Harper even wrote a reference letter for Carney to the Bank of England and said that Carney was 'instrumental' to the strong economic results of Canada. But now Harper is saying it wasn't so, but then Harper is supporting his Conservative buddy, rather than the Liberal PM who he had admittedly admired.

Things that I think Carney (in just 5 days as PM) has done well:
- eliminated the carbon tax on individuals (which wasn't even really negative for most citizens) by reducing it to zero
- first international visit was to France (and then Britain), rather than the US
- first domestic trip was to the Canadian arctic, emphasizing his support for our arctic sovereignty, our arctic people and our military.
- told Donald Trump that he would not sit down for discussions with him until he showed some respect for Canada (huzzah!)
- he's talked about making the Canadian economy stronger by having one Canadian economy instead of 13; building the millions of houses that Canadians need; diversifying Canadian trading relationships and opening new trading channels; and, fully realizing on the potential of what Canada is, a super-power in both clean and traditional energy

I think Carney is the right person to take Trump and USA on.

ETA: It's a mischaracterization to call him "just a realtor, banker". He has a degree from Harvard and a doctorate from Oxford. He was the central bank governor for two different countries. He worked in sovereign assets for Goldman Sachs. He was the UN Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance. I'm not sure how someone can say he isn't supremely qualified to deal with the Canadian economy and deal with foreign nations.
 
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HA... Trump telling that old gal from Fox.. how 'naasty ' Canada is, the people are 'naasty the nastiest state..... well. Come on , Australia, we can't let Canada take this crown, we can surely outnasty Canada!! the naturally nice folks, and we are mongrels. We can do it..
HA... Trump telling that old gal from Fox.. how 'naasty ' Canada is, the people are 'naasty the nastiest state..... well. Come on , Australia, we can't let Canada take this crown, we can surely outnasty Canada!! the naturally nice folks, and we are mongrels. We can do it..
We'll be watching here in USA, who wins the NASTIEST country and people! OMG, again. haha.
 
At the request of many, the City has begun to remove all American flags from sports arenas and locations along Lake Ontario, including the pier at Snug Harbour in Port Credit,” Parrish wrote.

“Oversized Canadian flags are ordered and will be installed on all the poles at City Hall.”
 
I remind everyone that Trump only received something like 34% of votes from those eligible to vote and won the election by 1.5%.

I don't believe that the majority of Americans outside his base support much of what he's doing.
But there aren't hundreds of thousands in the streets protesting all of his horrible actions. If Americans won't fight for their own democracy, they certainly won't fight for Canada, or for minorities or for women's rights. Your democracy is being demolished!
 

U.S. President Donald Trump said he would rather work with the Liberal Party leader in Canada to resolve a trade war he instigated with Ottawa, weighing in on an expected national election in the neighbouring North American country.
 
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