Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025

[LovesPeace2]

sorry Canada. We do not know why DJT is insulting all the allies- he was rude to the Queen in his first term
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Trump Walks in Front of Queen Elizabeth, Causing Social ...​

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Jul 14, 2018 — Mr. Trump walked slightly ahead of the queen as they inspected her honor guard. At one point, she gestured to Mr. Trump and appeared to direct ...

Justin is taller than DJT and he has never liked that, IMO, but now there is money involved so we can not just chalk it up to envy or bad manners.... (or can we?)

I just really hate this .I have some great American friends that are having a hard time with this. We know most Americans aren't at fault for what your president does and don't agree with it. But it's starting to effect sports like the NHL. You have sports announcers like pat macafee that have said some things in respect of the booing of the anthems. After all of this drama is over and done with what will our relationship be like .I can't see it going back to how our country's were, the trust is going to be gone and there's going to be hurt feelings all over sounds like a damn divorce jmoo

 

[Charlot123]

Trade wars are crazy and ultimately weaken both countries. How about tariffs on using airspace? The rivers flowing from Canada to US or back?

Mostly: both countries have own problems with certain economic competition with China. What happens if one country is feeling that its economy might take a dive? Where does it look and who ultimately wins?

This is “not good”, to paraphrase our new leader.

With Mexico, we don’t need the tariff war either. Cutting off legal ways for our neighbors to make money on tourism and services will only increase fentanyl traffic IMHO.

 

[Charlot123]

Farmer here. Did not vote for Trump.

Me neither. I wasn’t happy with either party tbh but now what I see is the proverbial elephant in a china shop.

 

[Sillybilly]

Do you have a link to your pic source? I'd like to do some digging. Thank you.

The source was the linked Oliver Alexander account that was in the OP.

 

[JDG]

China says it is ready for 'any type of war' with US

The comments come in response to US tariffs and as Beijing boosts defence spending by 7.2%.

www.bbc.com

China is ready for ‘any type of war’ with USA.

 

[JDG]

Life imitates Art. Or Art imitates Life?

 

[LovesPeace2]

Using Tariffs to Try to Annex Canada Backfired in the 1890s. Like Trump, Republicans in the late 19th century wanted to annex Canada—which was then still a British colony. The push to make Canada part of the U.S. reached a fever pitch following passage of the highly protectionist McKinley Tariff in 1890, which raised average tariff rates to around 50%. To pressure Canada into joining the U.S., the McKinley tariff explicitly declined to make an exception for Canadian products. Republicans hoped that Canadians, who were becoming ever more reliant on the U.S. market, would be eager to become the 45th state to avoid the punishing tariffs.

 

[Tealgrove]

As a proud Canadian, with many American friends, this trade war is heartbreaking on so many levels. It’s unnecessary, it is detrimental to both countries and these actions are based on straight up lies. It is a cruel agenda that does nothing but hurts the average person trying to get along.

I think Mr. Trump misunderstands the Canadian Spirit. He thought we’d cave and we didn’t. Mexico didn’t cave either. Now he has to go through with the tariffs or look weak. But Canada is bad. We’ve been so bad DJT tells anyone who will listen.

And all this as we are just now seeing the light of day after the Pandemic.

Nobody will win from this.

 

[tlcya]

Farmers Fear More Pain From Trump's Trade War

"Trump addressed such concerns (retaliatory tariffs) in a post on Truth Social, encouraging farmers to sell more products within the U.S...But farmers say that limiting sales to domestic markets would hinder their businesses and lower prices."

Have fun y'all. You farmers voted for this

no worries, it's just going to be a bit of a "disturbance" per Trump

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/04/tru...ffs-is-ok-as-markets-reel-from-trade-war.html

 

[tlcya]

As a proud Canadian, with many American friends, this trade war is heartbreaking on so many levels. It’s unnecessary, it is detrimental to both countries and these actions are based on straight up lies. It is a cruel agenda that does nothing but hurts the average person trying to get along.

I think Mr. Trump misunderstands the Canadian Spirit. He thought we’d cave and we didn’t. Mexico didn’t cave either. Now he has to go through with the tariffs or look weak. But Canada is bad. We’ve been so bad DJT tells anyone who will listen.

And all this as we are just now seeing the light of day after the Pandemic.

Nobody will win from this.

sadly I don't think it is a matter of him misunderstanding. He simply doesn't care and as long as it suits his purpose the far reaching consequences be damned. MOO

 

[JDG]

Using Tariffs to Try to Annex Canada Backfired in the 1890s. Like Trump, Republicans in the late 19th century wanted to annex Canada—which was then still a British colony. The push to make Canada part of the U.S. reached a fever pitch following passage of the highly protectionist McKinley Tariff in 1890, which raised average tariff rates to around 50%. To pressure Canada into joining the U.S., the McKinley tariff explicitly declined to make an exception for Canadian products. Republicans hoped that Canadians, who were becoming ever more reliant on the U.S. market, would be eager to become the 45th state to avoid the punishing tariffs.

Confederation was in 1867.

 

[GypsySoulAL]

Glad to hear that. Sorry that you are a pawn in this situation.

If you don't mind sharing (feel free to not reply)...how do other farmers that you know feel about the current situation? People matter. We can all be belligerent about politicians, but everyday people matter. What does all of this mean to you and your fellow farmers?

I'd love to reply in more detail in the near future. Recovering from shoulder surgery so keeping my answers relatively short for now.

The short version is that I have honestly been surprised to see more farmers against Trump than I anticipated, mainly through social media, although here in the Bible belt (lower Alabama) I'm like a blue dot in a red sea. Re: how we feel, this impacts us all on some level - many in much larger ways (USAID) than it will affect our family personally, but even the smallest farmers and ranchers rely on imports from other countries - fertilizer, for example.

 

[LovesPeace2]

https://www.reuters.com/business/re...canada-europe-sidestep-tariff-hit-2025-03-04/. ZURICH, March 4 (Reuters) - Swiss chocolate maker Lindt & Spruengli (LISN.S), opens new tab will supply chocolate to Canada made in Europe to avoid Canadian tariffs imposed to counter the higher U.S. customs duties imposed by President Donald Trump

 

[LovesPeace2]

‘Retaliatory pipelines’: Push to export crude away from U.S. intensifies amid tariffs | Globalnews.ca. The push for Canada to send more of its oil and natural gas to markets outside of the United States intensified Tuesday as U.S. President Donald Trump pressed ahead with a 10 per cent levy on energy imports.

 

[LovesPeace2]

Canada foreign minister takes Trump 51st state line 'very seriously'.
Canada's Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly has told the BBC she takes US President Donald Trump's remarks on making Canada the 51st state of his country "very seriously".
"This is not a joke anymore," Joly told Newsnight. "There's a reason why Canadians, when they go out on a hockey game, are booing the American national anthem... We're insulted. We're mad. We're angry."

 

[LovesPeace2]

The tariffs are really starting to get messy with other countries also. China says it is ready for 'any type of war' with US. China has warned the US it is ready to fight "any type" of war after hitting back against President Donald Trump's mounting trade tariffs.

 

[Snoopster]

LCBO (Liquor Control Board of Ontario) has removed American products from their shelves. They are one of the largest liquor buyers in the world.

“This is an enormous hit to the American producers. Every year, the LCBO sells nearly $1 billion worth of U.S. wine, beer, cider, seltzers and spirits, including more than 3,600 products from 35 states.”

Ontario removing U.S. alcohol from LCBO as ‘first round of retaliation’ against Trump’s tariffs

 

[Snoopster]

I love the juxtaposition of these two news headlines on CTV's main webpage right now:

 

[Charlot123]

sadly I don't think it is a matter of him misunderstanding. He simply doesn't care and as long as it suits his purpose the far reaching consequences be damned. MOO

It is about greed, tunnel vision and consequently, lack of foresight. Someone has to explain to him that the Gulf of America will be renamed the Gulf of China as the result of it. Something very concrete. There is a personal dislike of Trudeau and some European leaders (i suspect, Macron) in play, for sure, which may play a role, but Trudeau is leaving...
The problem is, years of political correctness have done the opposite. Average US elector stands by Donald Trump without firm understanding of his politics because of this bluntness.

 

[Charlot123]

On a practical level, what can we, regular people living not far from Canadian border, do? I plan to travel to Canada more all the same that I like hockey. But we usually stay in the hotel, walk around Vancouver, go to a local theater and museums. What else do we have to do to help you more? Eat or drink something special? I am just thinking that there should be some movement to offset it.
Are there any interesting routes to the Natives territories in summer?
Seriously, give us advises, please. New routes? We are always open to them. We once drove from Toronto to Ontario through Kingston, but maybe there are other interesting places?