NOT GUILTY Daniel Penny on Trial for manslaughter and negligent homicide of Jordan Neely #4

[Love Never Fails]

Phil Mickelson shares message to Daniel Penny amid chokehold trial
Phil Mickelson shares message to Daniel Penny amid chokehold trial

 

[Jade]

Other witnesses recalled fearing for their lives, saying Neely made “half-lunge movements” toward other passengers.

Daniel Penny manslaughter charge dismissed after judge considers mistrial

Daniel Penny's manslaughter charge has been dismissed after the jury was unable to reach a unanimous decision after four days of deliberations. The New

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Have you seen the interview with investigators?

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The Long Island native recognized that Neely wasn’t armed and hadn’t touched anyone but intervened after Neely’s tirade because he considered it threatening, Steinglass wrote.

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Ex-Marine Daniel Penny should have known chokehold would kill Jordan Neely because of military training, warnings: prosecutors

The statements were meant to fortify the prosecution’s stance that Penny killed Neely when he laced his arms around the homeless man’s neck as he was having a mental health episode insi…

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Penny sounds paranoid leading to his overreaction and botching his attempt at a hold.

Has there been any testimony as to DP’s receiving mental health medication now or in the past.

Have we seen DP’s mugshot?

All imo

 

[Sundog]

To stop a verbal outburst. Let's just make that clear. A verbal outburst only. Not even directed at anyone.

A raging, violently aggressive outburst that had passengers on that subway car terrified for their lives and the lives of their children.

 

[IceIce9]

Phil Mickelson shares message to Daniel Penny amid chokehold trial
Phil Mickelson shares message to Daniel Penny amid chokehold trial

Phil Mickelson shares message to Daniel Penny amid chokehold trial

Penny, a Marine veteran, was charged with manslaughter for stepping in when Jordan Neely , a mentally ill homeless man, threatened subway passengers on an F train in New York City in 2023.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Golf fans all say the same thing as Phil Mickelson shares message to Daniel Penny amid subway chokehold trial​

Many thanked Mickelson, as another shared: 'Big shout out to @PhilMickelson.'

'Love ya Phil! Let’s get this hero free,' said another, while one posted: 'Thanks for taking a stand on this, Phil! We need our voices heard.'

'This is the way, Phil. Thank you for making your voice heard on this topic,' another chimed in.

'Great job Phil, nice to see someone prominent standing for this brave young man. Kudos to both of you,' another added.



Neely had been screaming and threatening passengers on the southbound F train, telling them he was ready to go to kill someone and go to jail

 

[Sundog]

Whatever money is left over at the conclusion of civil and criminal cases says the attorneys.

So once DP and his expensive attorneys and consultants get done with the funds if anything is left they will donate.

Sort of a strange donation like an admission to right a wrong.

I would think something more aligned with Danny not being ashamed and the Marines considering the notes with the donations.

It doesn’t appear donating to mental health care is why the donors sent money to Danny so I won’t be surprised if that never happens.

Marine vet Daniel Penny defense fund nears $3M in Jordan Neely chokehold death as DA tips hand on evidence

Donations and evidence mount for a Marine vet charged with killing subway busker Jordan Neely. The Marine training manual is part of the DA's case.

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All imo

Unless DP is acquitted on the second charge, the funds will be needed for the appeals going forward. I assume that will be costly.

If he is acquitted, which I hope he will be, then I am sure that donors will be comfortable with Danny's donation to mental health care in NYC.

I also don't think that Danny has deep pockets. He is getting the support of people across the nation to pay for his legal and other costs from people who believe he is not guilty of homicide at any level.

 

[Jade]

I sure agree that money isn't going to go far.

Can we assume some donations continue on?

Can you imagine what DPs fund raising looks like to the generational impoverished?

There may be subsequent appeals for funds as it may be needed for DP to continue in such fashion, imo.

It just seems to me that the cheers for DP is for the freedom to intervene and not be arrested so using the leftovers for mental health just seems not the mission.



All imo

 

[Sundog]

I sure agree that money isn't going to go far.

Can we assume some donations continue on?

I think people will continue to contribute if he is not acquitted or doesn't get a not guilty verdict so that he has the funds to support his appeals.

 

[Marysmith]

I think people will continue to contribute if he is not acquitted or doesn't get a not guilty verdict so that he has the funds to support his appeals.

Reminds me of George Zimmerman's defense contributions.

 

[Jade]

I would think many would consider that DP will need some to recover from this either way as well. Thats why I find it interesting it’s not for that in addition but mental health instead.

Probably just for those publicly raised funds there may be large amounts elsewhere for DP’s troubles.

All imo

 

[Marysmith]

Not to stop a verbal outburst.

Rather to stop that outburst from escalating into physical violence. Because all the signs pointed toward an escalation. How long should someone capable of stopping a madman wait to restrain him? Until he assaults someone? Kills someone?

Witnesses who were there that day testified they were in fear for their lives. It was JN's behavior that made them feel that way.

DP didn't kill JN. JN's illness, combined with the drugs in his system and his own actions, led to his death that day.

All MOO

Penny still did not need to keep strangling him past the 1 minute mark when people had left the train. There was no reason to do that. He could have stopped. He was told to stop. He should have stopped.

 

[IceIce9]

I think people will continue to contribute if he is not acquitted or doesn't get a not guilty verdict so that he has the funds to support his appeals.

Daniel’s fund is still receiving contributions. I just looked and there are many donations from today, even one minute ago.

Many are writing messages of thanks and support as well.

 

[fred&edna]

Why sit around waiting for possible bloodshed, weapon brandishing, black eyes, broken bones, children kidnapped, or more?
Why not continue to use restraint until LE arrives in case the person is feigning?

jmo

 

[Marysmith]

Why sit around waiting for possible bloodshed, weapon brandishing, black eyes, broken bones, children kidnapped, or more?
Why not continue to use restraint until LE arrive in case the person is feigning?

jmo

He could have continued to restrain and released the pressure from his neck. He also didn't have a weapon, we all know that.

 

[fred&edna]

He could have continued to restrain and released the pressure from his neck. He also didn't have a weapon, we all know that.

The innocent people on that subway car did not know if JN had a hidden weapon... one that he had not yet brandished.

And, we do not know if consistent/constant pressure had been applied.

 

[IceIce9]

Why sit around waiting for possible bloodshed, weapon brandishing, black eyes, broken bones, children kidnapped, or more?
Why not continue to use restraint until LE arrives in case the person is feigning?

jmo

If he had released him too soon and JN injured an innocent person you know Daniel would have been blamed and criticized.

 

[Marysmith]

The innocent people on that subway car did not know if JN had a hidden weapon... one that he had not yet brandished.

And, we do not know if consistent/constant pressure had been applied.

We do know that. As evidenced by his movements, Jordan dying, etc...
Whatever. Only evidence that fits Penny's defense counts for most people on this thread.
Penny did what he wanted to do that day and evidently he has lots of support for it.

 

[Marysmith]

If he had released him too soon and JN injured an innocent person you know Daniel would have been blamed and criticized.

According to you the Good Samaritan laws would have protected him.

 

[Marysmith]

Daniel’s fund is still receiving contributions. I just looked and there are many donations from today, even one minute ago.

Many are writing messages of thanks and support as well.

Good for him and his supporters.

 

[shotgun09]

I still am gobsmacked by the games that the judge played yesterday on the jury. They had been deliberating for days, working hard to come to an agreement on the charges and instructions that were given. They were unable to reach one, a hung jury was noted, the Allen charge was given, they tried again...respectfully so.

Instead of calling a mistrial.....the judge offers his assistance to the DA.....and DROPS the initial charge. Now, he re-invents instructions, and allows them to only consider the 2nd count. That is a slap in the face to those 12,who each worked hard.. regardless of which side each of them were leaning towards.

Do you all really think that there are jurors who are ok with that decision? Probably split, IMO. Just as they were on the initial count that was dropped. I am of the opinion that there are at least one or two jurors who see clearly through the games that were played. The DA overcharged. And the judge rolled the dice and "took a chance" on them not noticing. SHAME on the NYC courts. You don't play with "The People".

IMO

 

[fred&edna]

Penny did what he wanted to do that day and evidently he has lots of support for it.

RSBM

One thing for sure, Daniel Penny did NOT WANT Jordan Neely to die. Daniel Penny tried to protect threatened innocent people and I definitely support him for that!

jmo