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NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #12 *Arrest*
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Luigi Mangione slams 'Marvel movie' perp walk in bid to block death penalty
Mangione accused federal and local officials of staging a scene for political benefit, not public safety, in the aftermath of his arrest.courthousenews.com
Yes, IMO it was a stupidly orchestrated perp walk, but it doesn’t absolve LM of his cold-blooded murder.
This is NYC. We have a lot of people here! I don’t doubt they’d find 12 people who will not consider that ridiculous display germane to a fair trial.
I wouldn’t, if I were on his jury. I might roll my eyes over how stupid it was, but I’d follow the factual evidence that was presented, not the preening from the officials.
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The perp walk appears to be a smaller part. We can't have the DOJ and prominent members of the administration publicly deciding the guilt of a defendent before a trial. Accusing defendents of belonging to this or that faction with no proof, before any trial to sway jurors. So reading between the lines they've probably blown the federal dp, and the state's apparently is already gone. So it's not what the jury will say, it's whether or not they'll even be presented with it.
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So now, we're most likely left with the simple murder that it was, and not pumped up because people in that part of Manhattan are somehow more important than the people are in other areas of Manhattan that night who were murdered. He should get life or whatever that second degree state charge imposes, imo.
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While the federal government can seek the death penalty in New York, it requires a jury to reach a unanimous decision during the penalty phase of the trial.
There has been no federal death sentence in the State of New York since the federal capital punishment system was re-established in the late 1990s, though federal prosecutors sought the death penalty in New York in 2023 for the terrorist attack by Sayfullo Saipov. New York State itself abolished the death penalty in 2004.
9/24/25
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There has been no federal death sentence in the State of New York since the federal capital punishment system was re-established in the late 1990s, though federal prosecutors sought the death penalty in New York in 2023 for the terrorist attack by Sayfullo Saipov. New York State itself abolished the death penalty in 2004.
9/24/25
Judge scolds Justice Department over public statements in UnitedHealthcare CEO murder case
Judge Margaret M. Garnett said in an order that the officials probably violated a local rule limiting what prosecutors can say publicly about the guilt or innocence of a defendant before a trial.
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I also doubt there has been a cold blooded assassination of a business man crossing the road either.
Might be time to use the death penalty in this case.
As for LM not being happy about how his perp walk was handled, too bad, so sad.
If he had not been caught, Lord only knows what he had planned next. JMO
Nonna knew.
Might be time to use the death penalty in this case.
As for LM not being happy about how his perp walk was handled, too bad, so sad.
If he had not been caught, Lord only knows what he had planned next. JMO
Nonna knew.
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Defense attorneys love to raise the right to a fair trial in jeopardy.
But the standard isn't, to prospective jurors, that they've never heard of a case or seen prejudicial statements but whether they can consider only the evidence and render a verdict without partiality.
Juries get seated all the time. Even in widely and wildly publicized cases. Impartial people exist across all levels and not everyone follows the news cycles.
Did the perp walk jeopardize his right to a fair trial? Not to potential jurors who never saw it. Has there been coverage that was prejudicial? Yes. But has it been unfairly prejudicial? I doubt it. More likely it's just really good evidence, which will be covered at trial and upon which a fair jury will properly deliberate.
Boston Marathon bombing, similar case in point.
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But the standard isn't, to prospective jurors, that they've never heard of a case or seen prejudicial statements but whether they can consider only the evidence and render a verdict without partiality.
Juries get seated all the time. Even in widely and wildly publicized cases. Impartial people exist across all levels and not everyone follows the news cycles.
Did the perp walk jeopardize his right to a fair trial? Not to potential jurors who never saw it. Has there been coverage that was prejudicial? Yes. But has it been unfairly prejudicial? I doubt it. More likely it's just really good evidence, which will be covered at trial and upon which a fair jury will properly deliberate.
Boston Marathon bombing, similar case in point.
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Yes, yes and yes.
Clearly I am interested in true crime or I wouldn’t be a WS member. Therefore I pay attention and can well visualize the perp walk that became a spectacle.
I’m also a New Yorker and if I were on his jury, I trust myself to divorce a media spectacle from the evidence that would be presented in court.
I have many friends and family members who don’t follow true crime at all. They would all be confronting this for the first time in court, if they were called to jury duty here, other than maybe a vague recollection that some executive was shot on the street in NY.
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The perp walk was beneficial to his case, in a small way, IMO. I don't think it made the impression authorities expected.
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Unfortunately I think it completely backfired on LE. It just hyped up his groupies, but will have little effect on a seated jury IMO.
I can't foresee under what conditions the perp walk would be displayed in court. About 10 minutes after it was published inventive social media folk had repurposed the photo complete with cross, disciples, full on victimhood for the accused. I think the prosecution would be the first to want to ban it from any jury. In fact, though not a lawyer, I'd think the defense could use that photo and resultant variations to benefit LM. The jury should see LM portrayed as an ultra famous religious figure?
I think it would backfire on the defense if they tried that, and that most members of the jury would find it offensive.
Well court is not the forum for that image by anyone, ever, except remotely for an appeal. Either the defense can use it as they are trying to use it now, to buttress their other complaints or it will become just an artifact of the larger case. The retweets of the chief executive's declaration that the defendant is guilty before a trial will do the job, imo, given the apparent government employment of the retweeters.
Update: Since the feds won’t transfer Luigi Mangione to Pennsylvania, and Mangione is declining to appear remotely, this Nov. 7 hearing is now cancelled.
Do you know why he's apparently claiming his PA arrest was illegal?
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